Hi lads i taught I would set up this thread as the first matches will be starting in the coming weeks. Any one any word on any off the teams this year and on how they are shaping up or the groups they have been drawn in .
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Hi lads i taught I would set up this thread as the first matches will be starting in the coming weeks. Any one any word on any off the teams this year and on how they are shaping up or the groups they have been drawn in .
Group 3
Kerry
Munster Senior League
Cork Aul
Defence Forces
Fixtures;
Match Day 1
Kerry v Munster Senior League
Cork Aul v Defence Forces
Match Day 2
Munster Senior League v Cork Aul
Defence Forces v Kerry
Match Day 3
Munster Senior League v Defence Forces
Cork Aul v Kerry
Dates of games will be determined in the coming weeks.
The UCFL Representative Team will play in a 4 team group with the AUL, the Amateur Football League and the Carlow League. The opening game is due to be played by October 31.
Clare Galway Limerick and Roscommom have been drawn together.
Group 1 is, Sligo/Leitrim, Inishowen, Donegal and Mayo
Does anyone have the full draw for the groups?
FAI UMBRO OSCAR TRAYNOR TROPHY 2012/2013
Group 1
Sligo/Leitrim
Inishowen
Donegal
Mayo
Fixtures
Match Day 1.
Sligo v Inishowen
Donegal v Mayo.
Match Day 2.
Inishowen v Donegal.
Mayo v Sligo.
Match Day 3.
Inishowen v Mayo
Donegal v Sligo
Group 2.
Galway
Roscommon
Limerick
Clare
Fixtures
Match Day 1.
Galway v Roscommon.
Limerick v Clare.
Match Day 2.
Roscommon v Limerick.
Clare v Galway.
Match Day 3.
Roscommon v Clare
Limerick v Galway.
Group 3
Kerry
Munster Senior League
Cork AUL
Defence Forces
Fixtures
Match Day 1.
Kerry v MSL.
Cork AUL v Defence F.
Match Day 2.
MSL v Cork AUL.
Defence F v Kerry.
Match Day 3.
MSL v Defence Forces
Cork AUL v Kerry
Group 4
Wexford
Waterford
TSDL
Kilkenny
Fixtures
Match Day 1.
Wexford v Waterford.
TSDL v Kilkenny.
Match Day 2.
Waterford v TSDL.
Kilkenny v Wexford.
Match Day 3.
Waterford v Kilkenny
TSDL v Wexford.
Group 5
Dublin AUL
Amateur Football League
Carlow
United Churches League
Fixtures
Match Day 1.
AUL v AFL.
Carlow v UCL.
Match Day 2.
AFL v Carlow.
UCL v AUL.
Match Day 3.
AFL v UCL
Carlow v AUL
Group 6
Leinster Football League
Leinster Senior League
Garda Metro
Wicklow
Meath
Fixtures
Match Day 1. .
LFL v LSL.
Garda v Wicklow.
Match Day 2
Meath v Garda.
LSL v Wicklow.
Match Day 3.
Wicklow v LFL.
LSL v Meath.
Match Day 4.
Garda v LFL.
Meath v Wicklow.
Match Day 5.
Garda v LSL
LFL v Meath
have teams opted out this year?dont see the desmond league,ecww league,ccl,have the north tipp league ever played in it anyone?
A joke that their is no desmond lge team, They only won it 4/5 years ago. A step backwards in my opinion.A new chairman and already going the wrong way.
The competition has not been taking serious for along time.
never was in limerick anyway...viewed as a free weekend by a fair amount of players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Minesapint
a weekend that you could go out for a few pints and not worry about sunday morning matches.
by the way,has anyone been appointed to the limerick position???
Aidan Ryan is limk manager
Don't think anyone else applied for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by dirtfree
But was it advertised
Not that I know of,but not sure,Quote:
Originally Posted by dirtfree
a joke that the desmond league havent a team in it this year.only won it 5 years ago.nobody wanted tot ake over so didnt put in a team..shame!!!
do not see how you come to that conclusion,the limerick squad has been quite strong the last few years,a.barry,p.mullins.b.buckley,s.clarke,wcolber t etc all played in it i think so they seemed to take it seriously and most people would consider those top players.Quote:
Originally Posted by prawnsandwich2
Im sure anyone that plays under aidan ryan will be taking it serious also dont they do their training sessions up in the all weather in the fairgreen so fairview will be hoping that they take it serious as well they need the money from the all weather pitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by prawnsandwich2
it's not where they train that indicates if they are taking it seriously or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by blueboy2
by the way,every junior club needs money...i'm sure who ever you are involved does also.
i come to that conclusion from being involved in junilor soccer for a long time,and knowing the opinions of a lot of players regarding the oscar traynor competition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fairkop
the results have also shown,that even though limerick teams have being very successful in FAI and MJC comps. in recent seasons,the same cannot be said for the OT.
i would say that most players would consider it 4th in list of comps. they would like to win.this attitude is not just in limerick.
desmond league have no team in it this year,and,the TDSL gave a walk over in it last year.
i can say for certainty,that at least 20% of the players requested to make themselves available for it will not.
and that is a conserative estimate
in fairness given your certainty about that figure you must have been involved at some stage in managing the team so one cannot argue that point given the experience you have of players refusing to play.pity about the desmond league as they won it a few years ago i think.Quote:
Originally Posted by prawnsandwich2
I agree it has been a shambles and i think it probably should be scrapped, fairkop mentioned a few players that would be considered top players but how many of them were watching themselves during matches, top players in Tipperary league play when it suits them, north tipp have no team in the competition, ECWW have not entered the competition, desmond league, ccl league, and Inshowen league is in doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by prawnsandwich2
I must have been seeing things watching the TOP players in Limerick the last 2 years all playing on the oscar traynor team.Aidan Ryan and his crew have done a terrific job.All the players have obviously bought into it as they have all made themselves available.Quote:
Originally Posted by prawnsandwich2
last post makes no sense at all.the top players will play in the competition..but will watch themselves..?sure if they were that way inclined all they have to do is not play OR refuse to play as PS said.i would not agree its a shambles,all competitions present problems,fairview won an fai some years ago and were helped by a walkover in the last 16,then you have objections etc. is the fai junior cup a shambles?
Yes players will watch them selves when they are playing Oscar trainer , what has the FAI and Fairview getting a walk over got to do with OT.
its referred to as an ..analogy?you suggested the competition was a shambles and it should be scrapped.the top players in almost all the leagues that enter it play in it and i would assume therefore that those players deem it an honour to represent their league in the Oscar...traynor....Quote:
Originally Posted by Minesapint
everybody is entitled to hold an opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sea Bird
i have no gripes with the comp. or the management team.
wish them all the best and hope they are successful.
but it will not change my view on it as regards the status of the comp. in the players pecking order.
it also won't change the fact that a fair amount of players will not make themselves available for selection.
i know this from either playing or following the game for a long time.
we will agree to differ
What players didn't make themselves available last year??Quote:
Originally Posted by prawnsandwich2
Would like to know the names of those players you know who have turned down the chance to play for their league or the names of others that you have heard about there seems to be a good few from what you say.Quote:
Originally Posted by prawnsandwich2
We in Dublin always give ita good go as our League will call off games even if only one player is in Panel.Weve 4 players in the panel(3 debutants) so theyr delighted and raring to go.The AUL play a friendly Wed so we were down to play Sheriff YC FRiday but that has been put back to Sunday.It seems we just take it seriously up here although in the past some players playing for Ireland Juniors opted out as it was too many games for them,others have also declined to play
i would not mention any names...it's their personal choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by blueboy2
If a player declines to play OT for various reasons,is there a rule that that player can be suspended by the league that he is playing in??that can't be right if true can it?Quote:
Originally Posted by prawnsandwich2
Fairkop not everyone thinks the way you do last year limerick had one sub at a game and that was paudie hickey a second choice keeper how many players didn't turn up on the night?, it didn't seem to be much of an honour for the Tipperary lads last year when they refused to play in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fairkop
there is a rule...but it is never(or can't be) enforced..Quote:
Originally Posted by hotspur
all a fella has to do is say he is carrying a knock.
maybe if they introduced a knock out and a regionalised element brought in to it,it may improve.
Can a fella just retire from playing OT?Quote:
Originally Posted by prawnsandwich2
last year?think you need to revisit your history books.think you wrong there,last year limerick had big squads for their games,i was at the clare game and they had at least 20 togged.year before went to clare and galway games and had big squads.did not see player you mentioned togged in any of those squads either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Minesapint
Lads I spoke to players that played for the oscar taynor team and they said it is an honour to play for the Oscar traynor team, but it comes down to who is the manager as well and everyone that plays for the Oscar Traynor team under Aido have nothing but respect for the competition.
Dont have to revisit the history books i was present when only 12 players were available and paudie hickey was the 12th player. If it was so important for a player why would the tipp lads not play in the competition, why have other counties pulled out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fairkop
to my knowledge the game you are referring to was an away fixture against the Cork AUL on a wednesday night approx 4 years ago when Martin Reddan and Denis Keehan were at the helm. Since then, under Aidan Ryans watch Limerick OT have always had a full compliment of players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Minesapint
i would also like to advise you that no Tipperary player refused to play against the AUL last year. The decision not to play the game was made by the league in conjunction with the management. I think it is very unfair to blame players when one is not aware of the full facts.
Minesapint was born in a leap year so it was last year to him