Hi lads.
I was just wondering what is the Play - Off format now that Monaghan have withdrawn from the league ?
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Hi lads.
I was just wondering what is the Play - Off format now that Monaghan have withdrawn from the league ?
The same: Winner of FD takes Mons old place. 11th in the top tier faces the winner of a play-off between second and third in the lower tier. Both two-legged affairs I assume. All subject to change depending on how the FAI wants to mess with the structure of the league.
Be some craic if we had a 7 team first division next season.
They'd just have to bite the bullet and let someone else in (if they retained a two league structure). If SD Galway can be a LOI team, plenty of non-league teams could be too.
If rumours are anything to go by (which they usually aren't) Mervue and Salthill are both considering dropping out of the league to be replaced by GUST.
I dunno. I have a feeling Salthill will struggle on beyond all reason.
Play-off between the two First Division teams in just one leg. Match with Premier team is two games.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
are you sure about that? I am adamant that the playoff between 1st div sides is two legged!Quote:
Originally Posted by blue til i die
He's 100% right. The First Division play-off is one leg.
Thought that myself. 2nd plays 3rd at home. Given our home form as opposed to our away form part of me would prefer to play away. Though a play off wouldn't be like a normal league game, more of a cup tie. Hard to know really, wouldn't fancy either ourselves or Waterford against UCD or Dundalk anyway. Playing better teams week in week out is a big advantage.
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Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Talks between the FAI, GFA, GUST, Mervue and Salthill are ongoing.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
Cant see galway having 2 teams last season , especially with them both sharing a bottom 2 position between them. Like many have said maybe a 1 Galway team but i can see the same happening with that ...
Well according to the fixture list from the league website, the First Division play-off is two leg this year:Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
http://www.airtricityleague.ie/image...xture_List.pdf
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Originally Posted by holidaysong
Hard to trust that website this year. Absolute disgrace. Best to check with extratime.ie, least they have correct information usually.
Will there be a playoff? I know the FAI are a shambles but i dought even they would force a 6 or 7 team First division. I would guess a 18 team league next year with Gust being the only team in Galway.
Have GUST got anything put together to even have a club?
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Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
He (and yourself Nigel) are 100% wrong. The First Divison play-off is over two legs.
One of the reasons for this is because the FD ends two weeks before the PD. FD ends on 13th October. So, while the PD clubs are playing their last two games of the season on weekends of 19th October and 26th October, the two FD clubs in the play-offs will be playing the two legs of the play-offs. This has been in the fixture list since the start of the season.
FD play-off dates are:
Fri/Sat 19th/20th Oct - 3rd v 2nd
Fri/Sat 26th/27th Oct - 2nd v 3rd
No dates in the fixture list for the play-off final though.
If the table finishes the way it is now, I could see Limerick and Waterford in the top tier. If Maguire plays to form anyway.
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Come on the town!
I think the FD club will be at a major disadvantage. First they will have to negotiate their way through either a one or two leg game from their own Div, then they are at home first in another 2 game series, so they could have four games to get through, and the final one will def be away.
Then again, will there be a need for a FD next year ?
According to two clubs I've spoken to about it, it's been changed to just one leg between the FD teams, as I've said. FAI don't want to confirm anything about it yet tho.Quote:
Originally Posted by harps1954
There will be a need.. whether there will be enough clubs is the real question.Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
They need to make a decision very early. Fear is (as always) that the FAI will wait and wait and wait, then made a decision last minute and mess teams around. Cant see Premier Division teams wanting the FD teams in a one league system so there'll definitely be a need for a FD next season imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
It'd be pretty funny to see Dundalk lose a play off and stay up, having previously won a play off and not been promoted
And possibly also against Waterford.
If it's staying as a 12 team PD for next year, then I'd like to see Waterford up.
As it is, we are the only team from Munster (or indeed anywhere south of Bray) in the division which is ridiculous. It'd cut down on our travel costs to have Limerick and Waterford in there.
Limerick are certs for automatic promotion. Not optimistic on us beating Waterford, and/or Dundalk or UCD. We're certainly capable of beating Waterford if we play to our best but it seems a long time since we turned in a 90 minute performance and we've a lot of injuries. Dreading the thoughts of another year in the First.
Try having Athlone, Longford and the 2 galway junior teams as your local derbies and then get back to me. It's a lot quicker to get from Cork to Dublin than from Ballybofey to Galway.Quote:
Originally Posted by adamd164
If the two tiers are retained I'd put money on Finn Harps going up in 2013.
If two tiers are retained I'd put money on all teams going up in 2013. Unless there's a sudden surge in interest in joining the league.
I heard at the Harps match on Saturday night that the FAI are looking at making up the numbers in the First Division with three 'Reserve Premier Divison teams.' So, next season we could be looking at Harps playing the likes of Shamrock Rovers reserves in a senior League of Ireland game. A senior FAI official (don't want to name him here) said that there will definitely be two divisions next season, and the PD will have 12 teams as thats what is in the Participation Agreement. It's what they do with the First Division that is toughest and the reserve team option is a likely option.
If it's a choice between that and a 7 (or 6) team division I'd take it. Speaks to the disdain the lower tier is victim of though.
Could a player play for the Prem Div team one week and with the First Div team the next i wonder?Quote:
Originally Posted by harps1954
How so? Barcelona and Real Madrid's reserve sides compete in Spain's second tier, and it's arguably one of the reasons so many of the former's youth players rise through the ranks. If there are teams with big squads and players not getting experience, it could easily be a success and help the league as a whole.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
There are equal positives and negatives for allowing reserve teams in the 2nd tier, imagine the sniggering from the nodding heads if 3 reserve teams filled the top 3 spots and the 4th placed team went up.
If its not that it'll be something else, so **** what they thinkQuote:
Originally Posted by Spudulika
Does the Spaniards not allow reserve teams into the lower tiers?
As has been said, if there's going to be 2 Divisions then allow in 3 or 4 reserve teams into the 1st Div what have we to lose?
You would obviously have to name 2 separate squads for it though.
Spot on, I wouldnt be worrying about people that will only ever complain about the league complaining.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
BWA and Dodge, you're both right. Supporting a LOI team is like cross dressing, it's a minority thing, you know others who do it and meet regularly and the central complaint is that nobody understands why you do what you do. Or something like that.
It was mentioned in the restructuring thread about letting reserve teams into the pyramid, it is good in a short term way, though if there is to be a greater restructuring in Irish football it will have to change, but there are always ways to accommodate. Most countries in Europe allow reserve teams (usually age group specific) into the national leagues.
I think we can all agree, the most worrying thing about this thread is not only the structure of the league but the fact that we are now being likened to Cross-dressers.