given, o'shea, dunne, st ledger, ward, duff, whelan, andrews, mcgeady, long, keane
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Btw if tets or the others provided the list first he would have got a thanks :p He is probably kicking himself now...:D
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given, o'shea, dunne, st ledger, ward, duff, whelan, andrews, mcgeady, long, keane
#kenEarly
Btw if tets or the others provided the list first he would have got a thanks :p He is probably kicking himself now...:D
Interesting that he has gone with Long instead of doyle, to me that sounds like a more attack minded policy instead of hoofing the ball up to doyle to hold up and pick out the wingers.
Looking forward to seeing how keane and Long work together. Nice to see a couple of surprises.
dont think keane and long play well together. other than that no surprises
Muppet. He's dropped Doyle?
Muppet.
of course that's ok if Doyler is injured. I'm not mental.
brilliant, im very happy with this. i think long is better than doyle, its looking good. possibly st'ledger the only weak link, hasnt got much first team football at leicster so far this season.
Doyle is our best player, hope there is nothing wrong with him.
We will be fine.
So which one of Keane and Long do you think is going to beat Skrtel in the air for the numerous hoof's up the field?Quote:
Originally Posted by Duggie
surprised at doyle's omission - i guess he's looking for pace up front with keane dropping a bit deeper.
or maybe doyle isn't 100%.
only time will tell if it's the right call.
eeh have you ever seen long play?? hes as good as doyle in the air and stronger if you ask me. hes physical, fast, good in the air and scores more goals than doyle. this is the exact team i would have picked if i were trap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingdom
he really isn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Duggie
If I know one thing from watching Ireland in 2011:
Trap is always right.
Yes Duggie, I've seen both players play, many, many times. And not once would I have said Long was stronger, or better in the air than Doyle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Duggie
Longy has a great leap on him no doubt, but he's not as effective as Doyle one-on-one for kick-outs, hoofs, free's etc.
Quicker? Yes. Scoring more in the EPL? More effective to his team than Doyle? Nope.
I had a feeling he was going to go with Long, based on the bibs at training. Personally I'd of gone with Doyle as I think Long is better coming off the bench rather than vice-versa. Fair play to Long, from being behind Cox 3 months ago for the Macedonia game, he's staked a claim for a starting berth.
Kingdom, Long is very strong in the air. Any time I've seen him, even playing with Doyle a few years ago, he always played as the target man.
long will score now of course and shut us all up.
god willing.
With one very notable exception, very predictable. Didn't see the Doyle/Long switcheroo coming at all, assuming Doyle is fit and available. Mixed feelings on that but excited at the prospect of a bullish Long harrassing their defense.
I'm not gonna debate the Doyle v Long in the air comparison. Nobody will convince me otherwise. If we were to go with a single player up front in a competitive game, with everyone available, I'd go with Doyle every time.
Long from the bench is a game changer.
Naturally I still want us to win as much and if Longy works out, I'll bow down to you all.
And re: Macedonia in June, Cox was very much the right call. Long had a horridly arduous season, and to be eliminated from the Championshiop in cruel fashion missing a sitter in the process couldn't have helped his moral, whereas it was openly commented on how positive Cox was during the Celtic Cup games.
Just something else, I'm not saying I wouldn't start Long, I'm saying if he's fit, I wouldn't drop Doyle, that's all.
Beaten to the punch again, Paul.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
01/09/2011 12:50 PM #256
JGKyne
Team Confirmed http://twitter.com/#!/FAIreland
James McCarthy has been called into the senior squad and will join up later this evening after the under 21 game in Sligo.
http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/soc...303337812.html
I believe Kilbane was four or five starts away from beating Billy Wright's record of 70 consecutive international starts for England. Unfortunate for him, but left back has long been a problem area and hopefully Ward can do the job there now. He's made a very good start to the season with Wolves.
Odds on him getting "injured" in the under-21 game?Quote:
Originally Posted by TerryPhelan
Keith Andrew is in midfield too I see. He's the opposite to Andy Goram. There's only one Keith Andrew. One Keith Andrew...Quote:
Originally Posted by TerryPhelan
These things deserve their own thread :pQuote:
Originally Posted by geysir
You stole my thunder!! :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
After Long had scored v Chelsea, and with Doyle having not had his best start to a season, I felt Long was the frontrunner. Then Doyle scored on the Sunday and I thought that would be enough of an excuse for Trap to retain KD. So it's a surprise on the one hand, but on the other maybe not.
One tactical aspect to this is that the Slovaks know a lot about Doyle, but know little about Long, so hopefully it'll be a bit of a curveball for them.
Long played in Zilina though, Doyle didn't.
Doyle scored home and away under Stan I suppose.
Tight call no matter what way you look at it! Will be interesting to see what Trap might say if there's a press conference.
TV3 calling it "Doyle dropped"; this doesn't sit well with me, I think it should be a case of "Long preferred".
Yep, agree with that.
Doyle has been a surefire starter for a while now. Nothing inaccurate or negative about saying he's been dropped -- it's a fact.
He had been a surefire starter, until Long scored v Man U and Chelsea. To call it "Doyle dropped" shows zero respect to what Long has achieved in the last few weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by irishfan86
and how can it be "dropped" when Doyle hasnt started for us since feb?
id say its very little to do with form and more to do with tactics both tomorrow and v russia next tuesday
I've never thought that Keane and Long play that well together, but this could be the game that proves me wrong. I agree that Robbie will probably be told to play deeper to help the midfield out. Have Doyle and Long played as a partnership for Ireland?
Kilbane sent home due to injury.
I reckon that Trap has doubts about Doyle's fitness and doesn't want to risk starting him in 2 games in 5 days. Makes more sense to start Long at home and go for the extra experience in Russia. Long gave Slovkia serious problems in the away game as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by freewheel30
Love Doyle but happy enough with his thinking here.
Doyle was excellent against Fulham. Did OK in the match against Aston Villa (the match Trap was at). Big, big call and a huge confidence boost for Long. Long is playing like a striker that can score against any oposition and that is priceless. Slovakia will be very wary of him.
I'm officially exhausted. I thinkthe excitement had got to me.
Happy with the team. Gutted for Killer.A twelve year streak is not something to be sniffed at.
When was the last time we've had a proper selection headache up front? It's great we finally have a handful of strikers in form.
Ok a slight change in sub topic. Whats the craic with McGeady? Has he played any minutes in the last 6 wks or so? Not had chance to catch up on all the threads here. Is it an inevitable substition due to tiredness? Our crowd can be quick to get on Aidens back if he is not delivering from the get go, will his touch be lacking? (PS: Just applied for a job at the indo)
McGeady came on as a late sub for Spartak in their last game. That's his only playing time in recent weeks, as far as I know.
In other news, it's now the day of the game...
I think he played something like 5 mins a the end of his club's last game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Junior
Maybe it would have been better to start with Hunt as he has had a decent start to the season but starting with McGeady and bringing Hunt on after about an hour is also not a bad option. At least if it's not woring out for him we have options from the bench and it can always be put down to lack of fitness.