There is a John Flanagan starting for Liverpool tonight.
Very Irish sounding surname though my gut instinct is he is not eligible.
Can't find anything on google.
18 Year old right back.
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There is a John Flanagan starting for Liverpool tonight.
Very Irish sounding surname though my gut instinct is he is not eligible.
Can't find anything on google.
18 Year old right back.
There may also be a Irish left-back called Allen :p
Foster N. Allen?
(by the way, i also just mentioned Flanagan on the Irish Abroad thread as i dont think we should be starting threads on every fellah with an Irish sounding name!!)
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Originally Posted by SkStu
Well it is a very typical Irish sounding name but I suspect any Irish links are in the distant past, anyhow Liverpool are 3 up already
can't say I have seen or heard Flanagan yet.Anyhow I feel better knowing Given isn't in goal but I doubt he would have saved the 2 goals
I saw.
The Irish abroad name is a bit confusing for me as I am in England!! ( and for you too perhaps!!).
Also information tends to get 'buried' in those kind of threads, hence why I didn't see it.
You can merge this thread into the the Irish abroad if you like mods.
He got a bit of praise for some defending at the end of the first half, appreciation from the crowd etc..
We really need to start qualifying for tournaments if we are to get any of these ''prospects'' - IMO. No harm in going after him though.
I think I heard in the commentary that he was on the bench for three of Liverpool's Europa League fixtures this season. If he was eligible to play for Ireland, I'd imagine someone would have caught on by now.
You would think that but nobody from the FAI copped on to Ciaran Clark until Richard Dunne did.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
I was thinking pretty much the same really, the fact I had not heard mention of him on here does not give me much optimism.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
got this email from a mate watching the game...Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
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Hey, this Flannigan or somebody at right back for Liverpool has had a great first half. At least i think he's right back, he's been overlapping and down the wing nicely knocking some good balls in.
We've already got a player like that on Merseyside.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Unusual for a Premiership starter not to have a bit of underage international history. A quick google but I couldn't find anything.
Seems to be a tough tackling fullback from what I've read, in the mould of Carragher, Tommy Smith etc...
Hmm seems to be an irish footballer despite being english born. Check it on his wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Fl..._footballer%29
Ok that was changed about 30 seconds ago to english player only - oh well :P Confirmed here http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/team/first...-john-flanagan
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Originally Posted by rebelmusic
Well says nothing there really, apart from born in Liverpool and nationality is listed as English.
An anonymous and unreferenced edit on Wikipedia that has since been deleted appears to be the only online reference to any Irish heritage the lad might have. I'd rather something more concrete.Quote:
Originally Posted by rebelmusic
His ears looks Irish.
that was added a few minutes ago by some loser on an IP Address 93.174.93.145 who also made contributions to the following topics...Quote:
Originally Posted by rebelmusic
This seems to be his twitter account, he seems to have given up after a few days though :)
http://twitter.com/#!/JF38LFC
Seems his account was vandalised, there are a lot of edits on it but I don't see one saying Irish.
I did find this though " He is openly gay, and in a relationship with Liverpool goalkeeper Pepe Reina" :)
Only one was to find out!! Post it!!
Don't think I shouldQuote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
I notice he was following Matt Holland on twitter - tenuous Irish link ;)
Well too late as I saw it before your edit.
Looks like him, same ears, definitely him I'd say.
Flanagan->Liverpool = Irish somewhere along the line. Book him Danno.
Couple of lads I know in Liverpool are friendly with his uncle, Carraghers business partner incidently, they said there is no Irish connection that side, so unless his mother has some?
Presumably, the Flanagan name derives from his father's side.
The thing about Liverpool is that while its by far the most "Irish" place in England, if not anywhere outside of Ireland, most Scouser's Irishness goes back prior to the 1950's, as most emigration to Britain after the war was to London or Birmingham. Chances are that Flanagan's family are all Irish, but it's going back a few generations.
Still remember being in a Liverpool pub in 88 surrounded by Evertonians and Liverpool fans all cheering on the boys in green. The place errupted when Razor scored to chants of "Take that you tory c@nts"!!!!
Liverpool have some cracking young players coming through like Coady, Kelly and Flanagan. Hopefully, we get in there and find out what links they might have to us.
That is pretty much what I thought, Liverpool is probably the last place Irish would emigration to these days, he is probably 3rd, 4th or 5th generation Irish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bungle
Wasn't Carragher eligible for Ireland?? (Runs for cover)
Do know he was an RC & Evertonian as a child if that helps....
Never heard that for Houghton, for a second thought you meant that oaf, Ruddock!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bungle
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Agree with the rest of the post, the 'most Irish' place I've been to in Britain with Ireland and Celtic.
They were mainly cheering us v. Dutch (and appreciated a mutual antipathy towards a certain 'local' team a few miles away) in '95 while Celtic and Liverpool fans always seem to have had a good bond.
Despite them being the 'wrong' side in Liverpool, Everton being the 'Catholic' club.
I've never heard he was. Think he might be in the same bracket as the likes of Flanagan, but couldn't be sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
Just watching liverpool v utd youth game. The only irish lad in the pool academy at the moment is the right back Rafferty who is liverpool born. The utd centre half/left full mcginty is a beast!!Colll is playing in goal for utd and Keane(Michael the less talented Irish twin!!) is on the bench
Know the family well. THe family business are client's of our company. I asked a while ago about the Irish connections, goes back 4 generation at least. He's not one of ours alas, as he is very highly rated by Dalglish
I'm sure the two need not be mutually exclusive. Sure, isn't Dalglish a Celtic man? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by third policeman
It's funny, I lived in Liverpool in the 80s and used to go to both Goodison and Anfield. There used to be Celtic chants and Rangers chants in both, but have to say the Celtic chants were always considerably louder in both grounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
My understanding though is that Everton was the original club in Merseyside and that Liverpool was a break away club that was originally owned by an orangeman. Alot of my scouse mates told me that both clubs were protestant owned, but that both drew their support mostly from the working class "Irish scally:p" class!!
Obviously there were also the half & half hats eg. Liverpool & Celtic or R*ngers, similarly Everton & Celtic, but never the two halves of blue, AFAIK.
Remember hearing a very small minority of Liverpool fans singing anti-Pope songs but this sentiment could well have faded away by now.
Nominally in Manchester. Utd. & City were supposed to have followed the same 'sides', but only ever seen limited evidence of this eg. unionist/R*ngers flags in with Citeh fans very occasionally over the last decade....
The sectarian aspect to football in Liverpool is pretty much dead and buried (thankfully). I can also remember secrarian chants / booing of RoI players and the occasional paramilitary banner at LFC games in years gone by, but this was always a tiny hardcore of the city's diminishing orange community. THe historic affinity is probably reflected in the "Scouser Tommy" refrain still sung at LFC games which is based on the tune and structure of "The Sash." This of course has been balanced in more recent times by "The Fields of Anfield Rd."
There is still probably a slight religious bias to the support base of the two clubs due to historic family loyalties and the geographic concentrations of LFC and EFC fans in certain areas of NOrth Liverpool. Vauxhall. Kirkdale and Bootle would still be massively Everton supporting areas whereas Everton and Breckfield would be bastions of LFC support. Although this would reflect the area's former religious / ethnic profile there would be no concious sectarian aspect to their footballing allegiance. John Flanagan's family comes from Croxteth (the same area as Wayne Rooney) and they are diehard reds. There is probably an interesting sociological study to be conducted into how tradtional footballing loyalties based on geography and religion have been broken down in the outer city overspill areas, but I am not sufficently qualified or bothered to theorize any further.
On a completely different, unrelated and potentially irrelevant issue, if Merseyside was an independent country (which some local believe it is) they would have a pretty decent squad including players who have played for four different international teams.
Flanagan, Baines, Carragher, Warnock, Kelly, Fox, Robinson, Rodwell, Spearing, Gerrard, Nolan, Osman, Barton, Rooney Anechebe, Walters etc... Cant think of a decent goalie though.
Tony Warner is the only one I can think of.
Interestingly, I came across this when I googled looking for another name:
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Either way, it is surprising to note that neither Liverpool nor Everton have ever housed a Scouse-born, first-choice goalkeeper.