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What's the story, are England playing in red as their first choice colour for the Euro 2004 championships?
Think it's a really nice shirt.
Pitty scUmbro couldn't throw together a decent shirt for Ireland.
Good to see England putting the star on their shirts now too.
It makes me jealous. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Peadar
Why, because of what could have been in Korea/Japan?Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
We'd never have beaten Brazil.
Seen a lot of them being worn out and about over here while driving around, they seem to all come with a free beer gut, skinhead and tatoo's. I think the deal with the red is that it'll match their face's if uefa boot them out when their scum fan's start trying to wreck the tournament.
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Originally Posted by Peadar
If you ask me it looks stupid considering how great a football nation they claim to be....One world cup to their name ???
Now brasil on the other hand, theirs looks impressive.
God Almighty boys. I'm no apologist for the English, and certainly no fan of England, but good luck to them. It's time to let some of the vitriol and hatred go. Never nimd the beer-gutted neanderthals; they embarrass and appal the decent English (of which there are many; Mrs PP being one) as much as they do the rest of us.
We are Ireland. We are defined by who we are, and not by our relationship with the English. Time to move on.
:) PP
Brilliantly put PP, couldn't agree more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy
If your mantra spreads we might even stop hijacking their internet polls :rolleyes: .
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Originally Posted by sylvo
what a pile of sh1te, i'm a skin head....am i scum ???? how did you get that time machine to live 800 years ago, move on like the rest of us or you'll just end up old bitter and twisted.
Kinda on topic but maybe not....
Did FIFA make some sort of announcement about the star thing or did Nike/adidas/umbro just decide that sticking it on the jersies might seel more?
Agree that the Brazil thing looks cool (as does Rangers' in Scotland) 3 stars is good too...
Given that in club football terms at least, convention dictates that each star represents a victory in the respective continental football championship, Rangers have no right to one star let alone five. So, very much in their case, the shirt manufacturers have decided it would sell more tops. But I digress.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
:) PP
Well no, convention dictates that, in club football, a star is achieved by the winning of 10 league titles. (convention being the Italian league as they are they only country to do so)
Celtic are the ones who ****ed convention and gave themself a star for winning the european cup (probably as a response to Rangers' five stars)
Fair enough. The Italians also have a natty little bullseye that gets added to the shirts of the Italian Cup winners for the following season. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
For once, I'll not defend them. I'd been led to understand that the norm was as I'd called it. (Which, I guess, would mean all Real Madrid shirts would need to be XL size for their nine stars, no? :D )Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
:) PP
It's hard to be a fan of a team with Sven-Goran Eriksson at the helm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy
I was praying he'd go to Chelsea so that he could make them rubbish.
As for the England team, it's the only one in the finals that I could name every single squad member and probably all the coaching staff too.
Once the French game is over, I'll be cheering for England.
Can't ever see myself buying an England shirt but I doubt I'd burn in hell for liking the look of it.
Oh dear! Obviously someone with little contact with the finer specimens of the master race...and a short memory considering the wonderful show put on in February 1995 at Lansdowne Road.Quote:
Originally Posted by max power
BTW, I'm a Skinhead and have a beer gut, but the point being made was that I don't walk around with a face screwed up like a dog's ar*e complaining about how 'Europe' is taking over the country, too many asylum seekers, all Paddies are in the IRA, etc, etc. As for the so-called decent fans, the bullsh*t is laughable. One, claiming to be from the FSA or whatever - usual w*nkers complaining about the foreign police at fault for everything that the rest of us have no problem with (wonder why????) - was saying last week that the Portuguese Police should realise that when the scum are making noise 'it's cos they're En-ger-lish.' What a joke! If you've ever been on a bus in this country when foreign students get on and the tut-tutting from the poor natives because the peace is broken, you'd know that this is pure sh*tting on other people's doorsteps. F*ck them and Allez la France!
Now that's a statement that I'll never understand, not that I'm slagging you for it Peadar...each to their own I say. The reason the vast majority hate the English is because of the arrogant attitude of superiority that is ingrained into the vast majority( not all ) of them. What makes me laugh is that the reason they hate the French is for the exact same reasons... they think the French are arrogant and don't like it yet don't seem to comprehend that that is the exact reason why they themselves are disliked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peadar
I don't "hate" the English........but I could never wish them well at anything.
:eek: Shocked, PP. I'd have thought you of all people would have wanted them out as soon as possible. Ye must have to put up with some amount of ****e from their media when they do well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy
As for me, hope they lose every game. England losing is the next best thing to Ireland winning.
That would be my attitude too, I can't understand why people would want them to do badly (please nobody even bother to mention 800 years or something equally stupid). I wouldn't say I'd be cheering for them but I'd like to see them do well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peadar
Of course all the ignorant barstoolers who normally love Michael Owen, Wayne Rooney, Paul Scholes et al will "hate them English cnuts" for the next month :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
What's there to understand?Quote:
Originally Posted by drinkfeckarse
I'm a fan of football and can't wait for the first game to kick off on Saturday.
Some of the French players amaze me with their talent and skill.
If they play to their potential then I look forward to enjoying their sublime skill all the way to the final.
Since they're in the same group as England they can't meet again until the final. There is, therefore, no conflict of interest unless both teams make it to the final.
Was meaning that I couldn't understand why anyone would be cheering the English other than themselves....Quote:
Originally Posted by Peadar
I don't care who wins the bloody thing once I get to see some good football along the way, particularly looking forward to
France -v- England
Spain -v- Portugal
Czechs -v- Holland
and the Swiss games to see what they're like.
The only reason I wouldn't want to see England win is because their media would hype it up so much. The thing is we'd do the same, but because we're so exposed to their newspapers and TV it'd be right in our faces. Then again, I successfully managed to avoid most of their post Rugby WC celebrations so it can be done.
Here's to a cracking tournament though, whoever wins :ball: :ball:
Because they have some fine footballers?!Quote:
Originally Posted by drinkfeckarse
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Originally Posted by lopez
right back at ya, over here complaining about the euro, power of europe etc, all the foreigners stealing our jobs and living off the dole and how every englisg person is the devils son/daughter.....and most of these sing rebel songs, drink bulmers and wear celtic jerseys, but should i just generalise like you ???
there are good and bad in all fans, rovers are a prime example over here as are millwall over there, cop on, grow up and live your life. :)
Well what abouit those of us who aren't barstoolers? Are we allowed want them to fail?Quote:
Originally Posted by Colm
Look at tiktok's post for my reason for not wanting them to do well...
What would sport be if couldn't cheer England to failure? Sure the Welsh & Scots will be doing the same & they are part of the same State...
BTW England will fail cos ain't got good enough keeper, Sven is the worst manager although good PR man to manager england in years & if Michale Owen can't chase those long balls they've no other tactic.
Not looked at draw so dunno if possible but France v italy final again for me.
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Originally Posted by max power
Mmm bitter and twisted, today Max over here with five day's to go before the self appointed football master race play their first game i've already witnessed the tail end of a Turkish woman having to take a load of abuse by some w***er who then proudly marched off, as well as nearly every 3rd or 4th person going on about foreign c**t's, when i'm heading across europe in my time macine :D watching Ireland i can't say i've ever got firmed up and terrorised the local people like those nice misunderstood guy's that yer good self is defending. God bless the people of Portugal for the next few week's cause i know only to well what's about to land up in their country, and i hope the local fuzz put the scum in their place at the first time of asking. As my good mate Lopez put it f**k em, allez la France.
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Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy
Spot on ! a truer word has never been wrote on this message board !
I do have to put up with all the numptiness, Brendy. I also had to put up with my missus threatening to leave if I didn't curb the English-hating myself. She just got sick of it because, as I'm a Celtic fan, she got it on two fronts. When all was said and done, I had a good hard think and realised that she's much more important to me than football. And I really do love my football, as anyone that knows me will confirm. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by brendy_éire
Hatred's poison, as you yourself will know, being from Stroke City and all. Just because sections of the English seem to excel in it - see the examples given elsewhere in this thread - doesn't mean we need to lower ourselves any in reaction.
:) PP
You just did. :rolleyes: I don't need to be informed about general racism in Ireland after doing a thesis for an MA two years ago. The point is we are talking about football here and, I may be wrong :rolleyes: , but Irish football fans haven't smashed up any foreign cities. In fact the last incident at an Irish international (not involving the scum) I was at was Switzerland 85 when - this may come as a bit of surprise here to you - an Englishman (mind you it could have been a Swiss fan with a Manc accent) led a group of neo-nazis into the ground for a punch up waving the butcher's apron (before it became unfashionable amongst the scum).Quote:
Originally Posted by max power
I'm sorry but accusations of generalisations about the scum is a bit pointless with their history. Over in Amsterdam at the weekend and the Englishman abroad was as much a w*nker as ever. I personally can't see them behaving in Portugal - which if it means them being slung out of the tournament in disgrace, or a couple being sent home in body bags, I fervently hope they don't anyway: They should have been thrown out in at least in 2000 and lost any right to host the tournament after their visit to Ireland in 1995. The highlight came in a pub full of fans of the club - foot.ie member Daxion was there also so it's not just my imagination - that claims it has the best anti-fascist credentials (Man Ure) singing 'I'd rather be a ****** than a scouse.' Still shouldn't generalise!
I would judge the scum not on their own pond-life standards, as you clearly do - they have a few rotten apples :D :rolleyes: but they are mostly alright - but on the fans or other countries around Europe. Despite the English rags' tendency to shift the attention elsewhere I've never had any major problem with supporters in Western Europe (or most of Eastern Europe - Poland supposedly a hotbed was no problem in April). Holland, with its 'notorious' history last Saturday is the basic standard for me. As for your laughable comparison of Rovers to Millwall, well that shows that you're not short of your own little petty prejudices either.Quote:
Originally Posted by max power
It's boring if you've no-one to hate.Like the Swiss.They've nothing meaningful to sing about.
I shall be in Lisbon on Sunday, at the match, with several English mates and having a few beers, all so far far removed from some of the hysterical - but predictable - stereotypical comments on here.
Thumbs up to Peader and Max (although your ****ing in the wind with the jaundiced likes of Che and Dev here, lads).
Think I'll wear my Glens shirt next time Im down Dublin just to see if it really is the 'Land of a 1000 Welcomes'.
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Doubt you'll find 1,000 people who know what jersey it is mate, and I'd be surprised to if even 1% of those were offended by it. COme to a Pats game wearing it. More than welcome...Quote:
Originally Posted by Lux Interior
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Originally Posted by Lux Interior
So all those violent scene's over the last god know's how many year's with the scum in europe was all part of people's imagination then. I'd stand well back when these so called hard men make their move's on trashing Lisbon, cause the local fuzz look like their not taking any mucking about from the scum from the word go. Btw why would you think you'd get stick for wearing a Glen's shirt in Dublin, sure yer wearing the shirt of an Irish team.
How many fans will be involved in the trouble, out of how many fans that make the trip? All teams have their hooligan element who cause mither, just multiplied for England abroad.Quote:
Originally Posted by sylvo
:D :D :D More revisionism from the hillbillies of Longford. How many fans have come to Dublin and started a riot? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Macy
Good luck! Nice to see you supporting your national team. None of this four 'nations' (sic.) within one country b*llocks, not that it gives Britain anymore teams at major finals. You'll definitely feel at home with the UVF flags carried by the greatest supporters on earth, something that I've personally seen is absent from Windsor Park these days. I suppose it gives it a hands-across-the-sea feel to it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lux Interior
As for the glentoran shirt, tell you what you lend it to me and I'll wear when I'm over in August (Get some pictures aswell). I've seen people walking around in tan shirts in Ireland and cheering the scum during their game against Poland in a pub round the corner from Merrion Square as far back as 1993 when I was last over with my old man, so it's time to get real! Like your recent blinkered assessment of the Irish language, you should actually take the trouble visiting the Republic.
Behave yerself now Lux, i hope yer have a nice time sucking up to the tan's. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Lux Interior
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Originally Posted by Macy
How many country's going into Euro 2004 have been told they'll be booted out if there's any trouble, one. How many country's were told they'd be booted out of euro 2000 if their fan's did'nt stop wrecking the place, again one.
Never seen any other country when following Ireland causing problem's, the only one's i've seen are those so called small minorty you seem to be defending.
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Originally Posted by davros
No i think you'll find that was your chant's about the Yugoslavian situation that had a couple of them asking qustion's.
No the signature is deffinetly not about that fine man.
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Originally Posted by Lux Interior
You don't honestly think anyone will know what it is, do you? :D
Never seen the Germans or Dutch having riots at international tournaments? Believe me, I've little time for England fans - most of them are c0ckney w@nkers for starters, but to tar them all with the same brush is just another form of the "all paddies are thick drunkards" mentality.Quote:
Originally Posted by sylvo
If some of you hate the "tans" so much, why stay there considering you're all so bitter? It's alright to live, work, socialise etc with those you seem to detest so much. Not like there's been a shortage of opportunities the last 10 years or so to return home, it's your choice to remain in the (three) lions den.
I was in Amsterdam during Euro 2000 and when the Dutch were knocked they spilled out of the pubs and caused a riot. They trashed the place. How many of you saw that on TV? I saw it with my own eyes and I'll tell you, they went mental. The cops didn't know what to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macy