At last odds on this Division from Boylesports
9-4 Waterford
5-2 Limerick
7-2 Shels
7-2 Cork
11 Mons
12 Drogs
25 Longfrord
33 Athlone
100 Mervue
100 Salthillt
1-4 odds 1,2 or 3
Im thinking maybe Shels,especially with Matthews there at the start
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At last odds on this Division from Boylesports
9-4 Waterford
5-2 Limerick
7-2 Shels
7-2 Cork
11 Mons
12 Drogs
25 Longfrord
33 Athlone
100 Mervue
100 Salthillt
1-4 odds 1,2 or 3
Im thinking maybe Shels,especially with Matthews there at the start
Jeepers. I know we weren't great last season but to completely rule out the possibility of us winning is a bit harsh.
Fair perhaps.
But harsh.
Cork or Shels would seem a decent bet.
Ya Shels or Cork look like they could be good bets. No Finn Harps and we are still called Limerick 37. Isn't it great that they know nothing about LOI.
No wexford either
Sorry folks I just cant seem to copy and paste correctly
Heres Boyles latest odds from today
5-2 Waterford
11-4 Limerick
7-2 Cork
7-2 Shels
12 Mons
16 Harps
18 Drogs
25 Longford
33 Athlone
66 Youths
100 Mervue
100 Salthill
EACH WAY 1-5 ODDS 1,2 OR 3
16-1 Harps? I'll take that ;)
im sorry but athlone shorter odds than wexford??? jesus these bookies really have no clue about the league, as of this moment athlone have no manager,no players,no plan and absolutely no hope!!
shels looks the bet to me or at least a good each way shout!!
Limerick at 11-4 is an absolute joke.
We've done nothing in the off season to suggest we'll be challenging Shels, Waterford or FORAS.
Or Monaghan for that matter. (altho if Gartland leaves they're more or less our level.)
I thought we'd be ten or twelve to one and I was going to have a cheeky each way bet. I shant be touching those odds with a barge pole.
Shels at 7-10 to finish top three is more or less buying money for next christmas if any league of ireland fan has a spare grand they don't want to give to drogheda, bohs or galway.
Yeah Shels would be my tip too. I'd like to say we'd be a good each way bet at 25-1 but whilst I think we'll do better than last year I think we'll be about 5th-6th.
I agree with most of the odds except for Limerick. Waterford or Shel's will probably win the Division with Cork and Limerick being the main challengers.
I am enjoying people thinking we are good for once.
If Limerick are in and around 4th most of the season, they won't be too far of 3rd place and play-offs depending on what is happening with the league.
No way we're second favourites. Last season, we took a total of 10 points from a possible 36 in 12 games against the teams that finished ahead of us. If you take Shelbourne out of that equation (I shouldn't, but they did get ahead of us just for the last few games), we took 4 points from a possible 27 against Derry, Waterford and Monaghan.
I'm not sure we've done anything to make me more confident of us get ahead of Waterford, Monaghan or Shels, and Cork may well pass us out.
I'm curious to see how Monaghan will be. They've lost a few experienced players. I'm sure they'll be up near the top but whether they'll be quite as strong as last year remains to be seen, they've been quiet enough signings wise as far as I can see.
No odds for Bohs?
I dont think theyre will be much between us and yourselves, unless we find a few decent players to add. Ye still have a decent team, and a consistent goalscorer which will make a big difference when he has a full season.
I think Shels and Waterford will be first and second and us and yourselves fighting for the play off spot. That said I have absolutely noi dea how good Monaghan will be, Im only basing this on the fact that a lot seem to be leaving them.
Just cos we have kept our signings quiet doesn't mean that we haven't made some significant ones. We have replaced what we have lost with, in my opinion, better, premier level, experienced players. Only worry I have is if Garto is gonna stick around as rumour has it he may be America bound.
If Tom Segal did football - he would be tipping Mons at 12s - real e/w value there.
I see Cork have changed their crest and everything back to being Cork City. It's hard to know what to expect from them but they should be part of a three way battle with Waterford and Shel's, Limerick despite their fans lack of belief, won't be too far off the top 3 as long as they pick up points like last season and as osarusan points out, they need to do better in the bigger games.
Is nobody tipping Monaghan to do something similar to last year then?
Why would Mons keep their signings quiet if they are already signed? Seems strange.
Also, interesting to see them let 2 of their brighter local lads from the 20's leave the club and join Dungannon.
Harps are only part way through signing a squad. We could be a very good side this season but alot depends on getting a centre mid and centre back. We're looking pretty good in most other departments.
What kind of side will Drogs muster up? If they get a middle of the road budget, there is alot of top 1st Div players in the Dublin area unattached. Im sure the manager is eyeing up and possibly speaking to some of those.
How good will Cork really be?
Until the majority of squads are confirmed it's really hard to guage how the division will pan out.
Well, 11-1 is probably about right as in the end we only finished third. Can understand why we'd be behind Cork, Waterford and Shels and probably Drogs and Limerick as well. Will also be tough to sustain the effort of last year even if Barrett and Fabio do well.
The bookies have always put the Youths too far back, they put us in second or third last for the past two years but we've always managed mid-table at least. We've signings still to come in too..
I haven't been following Monaghan's off season too closely, but I was under the impression they would have a significantly weakened squad this year with players leaving over the break? I think I'm basing it on a pretty pessimistic post by Magicme after the play-off and with the dust settling, maybe things didn't work out as badly? Would be nice to see them back in the Premier anyway.
We don't announce signings coz we learned the hard way a few years ago that players sign and sometimes change their minds so we only announce squads when registration has been complete.
As for the 2 lads, good and all as they are, they are not at the level we are require when aiming for promotion.
Yup I was pessimistic but I forgot how resilient mons are and that Mick Cooke is well respected by players in the league and that our consistency in paying players offers some extra leverage in signing players.
Sure I wish some of the players had stayed but the core of the team are staying and the rest are being replaced by better.
Dont think Barrett and Fabio are as good as what Monaghan had last year....Depends if Fabio is in the mood i suppose how many did he end up playing for Athlone?
Its all about the manager bluewhitearmy. Cooke is great at getting the best out of talented lads who may have lost their way so am very optimistic about them. They have both been at the very top of their game and I believe that they will do the business for us.....if they have indeed signed. ;-)
Athlone fans didn't take to him anyway. Though in his defence Brendan Place had a habit of alienating players so that might have had something to do with it. Barrett isn't the player he was either, injuries have taken a big toll. Philly Hughes is much more effective IMO.
Philly Hughes got most of his goals from penos. So 2010. So over him. Next.
And which one of Fabio and Barrett is going to replace Brian Gartland at centre half?? :ball:
You never were gone on him in the first place if memory serves. We'll see anyway I don't doubt ye'll have a pretty decent side anyway. I get what you're saying about players knowing they'll get paid too it's helped us get everybody we wanted to sign up again.
MagicMe.............. Fabio to be sent off in the game immediately preceding your game V Drogs !!!! Odds on that;)
lads don,t overlook drogs
Yeah they were surely our 2nd and 3rd highest scorers last season! Yes they're both definitely staying, they were both planning to go to America with scholarships but changed their minds about it. *relief*
I'm hoping Furlong and another one of our local youngsters, Robert Dempsey, make an improvement on last year as strikers to make up for our lack of Sheahano. If they do, I'm not really concerned at all. If not, then I hope to God one of our incoming players is a striker! I'd say any/all incoming signings will be announced tomorrow at the first training session...