Postonements

The eircom League have postponed Six matches in the Premier and first Divisions following requests from three clubs, which will enable the respective clubs to release their players for the Four Nations Tournament in Aberdeen in May of this year.

The eircom League received requests from Waterford United, St Patrick's Athletic and Shelbourne for postponements of their respective Series 12 Premier Division fixtures and from UCD, Bray Wanderers and Kildare County for postponements of their respective Series 10 First Division fixtures.

These requests are as a result of those clubs having players selected to represent the eircom League in the Four Nations Tournament in Aberdeen, Scotland which takes place from May 18 to 23.

The eircom League has postponed the following six fixtures:

Premier Division Series No 12:

May 20 - Dublin City v Waterford United, Tolka Park
May 21 - Bohemians v St. Patrick's Athletic, Dalymount Park
Drogheda United v Shelbourne, United Park

First Division Series No 10:

May 20 - Dundalk v UCD, Oriel Park
May 21 - Bray Wanderers v Limerick, Carlisle Grounds
May 22 - Kildare County v Finn Harps, Newbridge

while it's going to mean a quite weekend next weekend in the league, it's only fair that the fixtures were put back.

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Originally Posted by tiktok

while it's going to mean a quite weekend next weekend in the league, it's only fair that the fixtures were put back.

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Do we really have to have the Bohs - Pat's game off?

Bohs will be without Robbie Doyle (now our 4th choice striker) and Pat's are without Keith Fahy.

I think the rule for FULL internationals is that you must have TWO players (from one club) away, so I think it is daft to postpone this game.

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All I can say to that Luke is that either Bohs or Pats must have requested the postponement.

Aren't most of the coaching staff involved with EL clubs too, any Bohs/Pats on there?

It's a load of muck, why didn't they select a full squad. No Paisley or Dillon. Micky mouse international (sic) Tournament.

well for a start paisley isn't fully fit.....

it will lead to a good night on el weekly, all the lads will have to talk about is dolan :D

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Originally Posted by Luke O'Riordan

I think the rule for FULL internationals is that you must have TWO players (from one club) away, so I think it is daft to postpone this game.

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They changed the rule in the off season. Its one player missing for any international. This is an international. Pats asked for the postponement. 'twas granted

Stephen Ward(Bohs)
Doyle (CCFC)
Kearney (CCFC)
Dillon (LTFC)
Paisley (LTFC) although not fully fit + Leaving Cert.

These should be in our strongest squad and give this tournament some respect otherwise don't be posponing games. The above are U-21 internationals.

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Originally Posted by Xlex

It's a load of muck, why didn't they select a full squad. No Paisley or Dillon. Micky mouse international (sic) Tournament.

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You answered your own question. Mickey Mouse Tournament that does the league absolutely no good. Win it and "sure it was only conference players and the league of Wales", don't win it "ha ha ha couldn't even beat non-league players". Do you think the anti-eL numpties will care it's not the best U21 squad, let alone eL squad, available?

What a utter & complete joke!

Clubs are not supposed to recommend 1st team players for the Mickey Mouse Comp in the first place so shouldn't need to postpone games.

That is not a true "international" tournament so rules should not apply.

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Originally Posted by pete

That is not a true "international" tournament so rules should not apply.

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Apparently there was a rule brought in specifically for representative matches. It's not under the "International Call Ups" one - it's a seperate one*

*Unless wws is bullshítting on the Bohs MB :)

NOPE MACY

it really is a rule for "League represenative" sides

from the fai:

Under Rule 20.16 as amended at the 2004 eircom League AGM, clubs may
request a postponement of a fixture if one (1) or more players is
selected for a League representative match.

repesents the eircom League and shows what kind of talent we have in our domestic league, yeah the timing sucks but if ALL clubs had of been behind it and helpful the we could have had the strongest squad possible out there. All matches would have been put back then, instead of a few clubs having to ask the FAI.

I could almost gaurentee that Devo tried to get Stephen Ward(Bohs), Doyle (CCFC), Kearney (CCFC) and Dillon (LTFC) but was knocked back by the clubs managers. If the FAI want a strong repesenaation this should be mandatory for all clubs, it's not as if 1 weekend off is going to cause major hassle, im sure most managers would love to give most of there squad a nice little break before the real stuff starts over the next few months

Does it represent the eircom league or is it the Irish Junior team ? there are many players not playing for eL teams who could get on it otherwise.

a creditable entry would have to have a creditable manager, which Devo isn't!

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Originally Posted by wws

NOPE MACY

it really is a rule for "League represenative" sides

from the fai:

Under Rule 20.16 as amended at the 2004 eircom League AGM, clubs may
request a postponement of a fixture if one (1) or more players is
selected for a League representative match.

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Think the SEI need a new banner - "If you can read this, you don't support Bohs"

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Originally Posted by Xlex

a creditable entry would have to have a creditable manager, which Devo isn't!

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This is not a credible tournament, and one the eL should not go near.

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Originally Posted by blutil

Does it represent the eircom league or is it the Irish Junior team ? there are many players not playing for eL teams who could get on it otherwise.

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Would they ****? THere isn't one player in Ireland under 21 not playing in the League better than that squad selected.

junior football is ****. Despite what those players think

the people pushing this are the eircom league themselves - its a complete nonsense from a strictly football point of view but from a blazer point of view this is what they want - involvement with other blazers in the uk

the tails wagging the dog on this one

We couldn't get a game postponed this time last year when John O'Flynn, one of our top players, was playing in a real international match yet one year on 6 clubs manage to get a postponement because a few of their fringe players are playing in some meaningless Mickey Mouse amateur tournament. :rolleyes: It doesn't make sense!

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Originally Posted by Colm

We couldn't get a game postponed this time last year when John O'Flynn, one of our top players, was playing in a real international match yet one year on 6 clubs manage to get a postponement because a few of their fringe players are playing in some meaningless Mickey Mouse amateur tournament. :rolleyes: It doesn't make sense!

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It does when you read that they changed the rule in the off season :rolleyes: I think its stupid that a game should be called off for one player but Shels, Bohs and Cork wanted it that way...

And seeing as Fahey has played practically every game he's been available for he's hardly a fringe player...

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Originally Posted by Colm

We couldn't get a game postponed this time last year when John O'Flynn, one of our top players, was playing in a real international match yet one year on 6 clubs manage to get a postponement because a few of their fringe players are playing in some meaningless Mickey Mouse amateur tournament. :rolleyes: It doesn't make sense!

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That's why they changed the fúckin rules, or is this another Dublin conspiracy against Cork?

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Originally Posted by Colm

We couldn't get a game postponed this time last year when John O'Flynn, one of our top players, was playing in a real international match yet one year on 6 clubs manage to get a postponement because a few of their fringe players are playing in some meaningless Mickey Mouse amateur tournament. :rolleyes: It doesn't make sense!

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there hardly fringe players now !

Alan Cawley (Shelbourne)
Keith Fahey (St Patrick's Athletic)
Wes Hoolahan (Shelbourne)
Colm James (Bray Wanderers)
Gerard Rowe (Shelbourne)
Hugh Davey (UCD)
Alan McDermott (Shelbourne)
Darren Murphy (Cobh Ramblers)
Ger O'Brien (Kildare County)
Chris O'Connor (Bray Wanderers)
Robbie Doyle (Bohemians)
Willie Doyle (UCD)
John Flood (Bray Wanderers)
Darryl Murphy (Waterford United)
Eamon Zayed (Bray Wanderers)

All play regular 1st team football, as well as some of them playing at international level

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Originally Posted by Dodge

It does when you read that they changed the rule in the off season :rolleyes: I think its stupid that a game should be called off for one player but Shels, Bohs and Cork wanted it that way...

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But surely they should have made sure this new rule only applied to actual international games? I'm delighted we didn't release any of our players for this farce anyway.

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Originally Posted by Dodge

And seeing as Fahey has played practically every game he's been available for he's hardly a fringe player...

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He's hardly in the class of John O'Flynn though. ;)
I can't understand why Pats released Fahey for this tbh. Likewise with Bohs-Doyle and Shels-Hoolahan.

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Originally Posted by Colm

6 clubs manage to get a postponement because a few of their fringe players are playing in some meaningless Mickey Mouse amateur tournament.

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Can't speak for other teams but three of our first 11 are playing in this and if we didn't get the game postponed, I'd imagine we'd have pulled them out of the squad for this tournament. If the league want to play in this yoke, they have to allow postponements.