What a match. 1st Division Team in Europe and are about to play United at Cardiff. What The Fu*ck was McCarthy thinking taking Kyle off :rolleyes: :confused: :rolleyes:
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What a match. 1st Division Team in Europe and are about to play United at Cardiff. What The Fu*ck was McCarthy thinking taking Kyle off :rolleyes: :confused: :rolleyes:
If Kyle played all night he wouldn't have scored. He's hardly a prolific goalscorer anyway. It was the right decision. McAteer, on the otherhand was a disgrace and hardly acted his 31 years of age.
At least we're saved from the McCarthy - Keane rematch :rolleyes: No doubt people will use McCarthy's 'failure' to take an average nationwide team to the fa cup final as an excuse to slag him off
I would have loved to have seen McCarthy VS Keane. Sunderland were defending the rest of the match when Kyle came off!
Me too. Only interest I would have had in his overhyped tournament. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by adamcarr
I bet the Cardiff cops are delighted at the idea of Millwall, Cardiff and Man U fans all being in the same City. Lucky them.
Whats the betting of serious crowd violence arising next year in the UEFA cup?
I was really looking forward to McCarthy & McAteer Vs Keane. . .or should that be the other way around!Quote:
Originally Posted by adamcarr
Suppose the scousers are the Hillsboro's to you too? Or the scots Lockerbies? Matthew Harding dying in a copter crash - píss funny eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by davros
Would never claim that United fans have collective halo's, however if you don't agree with it don't use it! It's pathetic that it's acceptable for United to munichs, but what reaction would you get calling the scousers Hillsboro's? You'd be (rightly) fúcked out of it....
Actually I hate ManU far more, and any United fan that calls United that is a total JCL...Quote:
Originally Posted by davros
btw Wouldn't so confident that your fellow cockernies will have things their own way in Cardiff. United are pretty formidable on that front too, not to mention the locals....
Always considered Man U fans to be fairly cr@p but they destroyed the Arsenal fans at Villa Park on Saturday.Couldn't hear an Arsenal chant all game.
Must be just the large number of nonlocals who attend the Old Trafford games that lets them down.
Millwall in Europe is the English FA's nightmare.They have been
desperately trying to re-image English supporters in the eyes of Europeans,and now the most infamous hooligan team are to be let lose on the continent :( .....makes it interesting for us though :D
Away from home United have always been top notch, depends where you are in the ground at OT. Teir 2 of the stretty is normally rockin, but then that's so far from the pitch. All the rest of the singers are spread out around the ground (the joys of all seaters). The fact that it's so hard to get tickets is also a problem, none of this turn up at 12 and pay into the stretty as in days of old :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Beavis
Have to say Man U fans (sounds alright to me Macy) are the best vocally in England (only portsmouth or newcastle could challenge)
Bit of inventiveness with the songs always helps...
I'd say cops in carediff will be well trained to cope witht he likes of Milwall thugs. Going to be a completely different matter in the UEFA Cup - every Milwall thugs is gonna want to "invade" Europe. Media can start the outline of their articles already.
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we'll see...... Town have played millwall before anyway, and due to the English Co-efficient I'd be delighted if we got that far.Quote:
Originally Posted by davros
If you're not a cockney, then you've certainly fallen for all their bullshít.
Lol :D I met a 45 year old Millwall hooligan when I was working in Ibiza during the summer. He was telling me about the plans they had for their games against West Ham this season - frightening stuff. He also told me about how he was planning to sneak into Turkey for the Turkey - England qualifier and how he was planning to 'wreck the place'. This guy was scum defined - he hated the 'Oirish', even though his family were all originally from Ireland, and Millwall had a few Irish players on their books, including Steven Reid at the time. He supported Rangers as well, like most hooligan Millwall fans. The football was just like a sideshow to him. You can bet your last euro that these boys will leave their mark on Europe next year!Quote:
Originally Posted by Macy
Absolute crap. Since Liverpool supporters suffered at Hillsborough there is no disrespectful mention of munich since both clubs suffered a great tragedy.Quote:
Originally Posted by davros
At least include Celtic on your hit list. Remember an outcry in Britain when Celtic supporters jeered during the minutes silence after the Queen mother died.
Oh sweet Jesus Declan, what's with the one-man persecution of Celtic? A minute's silence at subsequent football matches was wholly inappropriate to mark the passing of a gin-sodden old parasite who'd had more than her fair share of privilege and lifespan. I was at CP for that particular game as it happens and very few jeered, although most carried on taking their seats, talking to their friends, scratching their sacks, whatever. Her passing just wasn't considered relevant by the majority of Celtic fans that day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Declan_Michael
I think the vignette I've just described is wholly different from a bank of fans with songs celebrating tragic losses of life á la Munich or Hillsborough. Wouldn't you agree?
:confused: PP
I'm hardly a firm believer in the British Monarchy myself. Maybe a football match wasn't the best place to hold a minute silence but it was still deemed disrespectful to someone who had just passed away. Incidendentally, I don't think a football stadium is any place to vent political/nationalistic views.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy
I wouldnt be so sure of that. My some what limited knowledge of Cardiff and people there leads me to believe that the Man U fellas are not likely to be a poor third. Some time a few years ago, Man U were playing in Cardiff, Cardiff were away that weekend. Man U fans all 'took' the Prince of Wales Pub. Police shat themselves, long old night.Quote:
Originally Posted by davros
Do Millwall still have scummy fans ??
And people called Declan like nothing more than to make sweeping generalisations about Celtic fans for whatever reason... :rolleyes: ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Declan_Michael
Like I said, it wasn't about respect or otherwise. It was about relevance. More specifically, the lack of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Declan_Michael
What you and I think is bye the bye. Sport and politics have been interrelated since way before we graced this earth; in fact, it would seem to be exceptional when this isn't the case. FWIW, I don't agree with some of the more extreme views I hear at CP. But I'll squarely guarantee you that you won't agree with the more extreme views you'll hear in the stands or terraces at your club. C'est la vie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Declan_Michael
:) PP
More like European police forces will leave their mark on them...love to see them up against the Carabinieri...and a few Euro firms too. Don't care what anyone says, when you're 45 you're over the hill for any arm to arm combat. No army takes on 45 year olds unless their in scheissestrasse...bit like Hitler in his last days in Berlin. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by 4tothefloor
The Celtic supporters I have known have been Glaswegians and enjoy the game of football. Sound people. I appreciate that not all Celtic supporters sing rebel songs but there enough of them for threads on the issue to present on this site on a regular basis. Seems simple that you support a team and attend games because you enjoy the sport. If their is burning political issue you wish to discuss either talk to your mates down the pub or write to the indo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy
Mutual loathing maybe but the line is drawn at Hillsborough/Munich. The banter between scousers/mancs is no different to spurs/arsenal, villa/Birmingham etc etcQuote:
Originally Posted by davros
For their matchs against west ham the time of the matchs had to be moved to miday and huge amounts of police had to be deployed.Quote:
Originally Posted by A face
As for Man utd - they were fined by UEFA last season for their fans storming a turnstile in madrid. funnily enough it got virtually no coverage in the british press :confused: :confused:
Liverpool themselves havent much respect for the dead of Heysel. Despite what went on, the official liverpool site and many of the other liverpool sites claim that many of the Juventus fans who were charged were "armed". thats pure rubbish.
Erm, well I'm not really surprized that a Glaswegian would choose to support a Glaswegian club. Bit different with Irish supporters chosing to follow a British team - tricolour and all. I've seen the Celtic store in Dublin fits in well alongside Tesco, Topman and Debenhams.Quote:
Originally Posted by davros
Unfortnatly, at times the Old Firm mirrors the problems in Northern Ireland. Religion gets drawn into the Old Firm, however subconciosly. You wear a Celtic jersey you are declaring that you are a catholic. With Rangers, a Protestant. Then, the battle lines are drawn. Suddenly we're talking about religion. Once you've made your team choice/religion - Politics gets drawn in (United Ireland/Nationalism/Black & Tans to the No Surrender/GSTQ). Now were talking about Politics and not football. Speaking from a Celtic perspective its hardly a great advert for the Irish abroad singing rebel songs old and new. As I've said I appreciate not all supporters (of either club) follow this line but its all a bit much IMO. Do they wave tricolours so fiercely at London Irish or the Boston Celtics?
When the FAI threatned to use CP for International matters I trawled a few Old Firm message boards. Seemed that the Scottish 'bhoys' didn't care much for the ROI (why should they?) and security issues were also raised. Ironically, I could not forsee such a problem at Anfield/Old Trafford.
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Originally Posted by lopez
To right, i'd love to see them give it the ''no one like's us we don't care'' to the carabinieri, seen them in action a few time's on trip's to serie a game's they'd give yer average middle aged, arm's plastered in bulldog drawing's d**khead more then just a bloody nose. Millwall are a disaster when it come's to a lot of their fan's. A lot of their game's last season they even had to ban away fan's from going to the den, only lifting the ban when they seen how much cash they were losing, and can only see problem's with them in europe, in the aftermouth after no doubt the fan's of the self appionted football master race will do their usual job of trashing the city's of Portugal for their two week's in the summer, plus getting a load of them trashed by some baton's from the local Portugies fuzz.
Because the manager of Millwall doesnt have a coaching badge they actaully fail the UEfa License requirements.
It doesn't automatically mean that they will forfeit their European spot though. This only actually comes into play if Millwall are promoted to the Premiership. The Football Association retain the ability to exempt clubs outside the top flight who qualify for Europe (i.e. the UEFA Cup) if they don't make the licence grade. As Dennis Wise doesn't possess either a UEFA 'A' or 'B' grade coaching licence (and the FA, as UEFA's regulatory agency for English football, cannot issue him with a "certificate of coaching competence" as he hasn't been in post for five years), it's him that could potentially cause this problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by eoinh
:) PP
I think you miss my point. But history is exactly what it is. We are talking about a Irish Priest that set up a football club, not yesterday but over 100 years ago. The have been playing in a Scottish League, representing Britain when in Europe. Yes, they have links to Ireland in their history lets draw the line there.Quote:
Originally Posted by davros
They represent Scotland and not Britain when playing in Europe. This independence is something the "home" nations have fought long and so far successfully to maintain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Declan_Michael
:D PP - Pedant Paddy
(Bloody hell, didn't we do well, by the way? This thread started out as "Millwall in final". All roads lead to Glasgow and not Rome it would seem. :confused: ;) )
Not as many as Man Ure so what's the point here. BTW, I too find your use of Munichs offesnsive, and I'm not fan of the club. It may interest you that one of our best players was killed in that tragedy, so excuse me if I don't share a chuckle with you...not that Liam Whelan is known up at 'Parkheed', 'Salick Park' or any other names from the ridiculous, aye, patois you've seemed to have acquired. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by davros
My favourite Millwall fan is none other than Maxwell 'Max' Bygraves. Let me tell you a stoooooorryyy! One of his less well known numbers that we didn't have to suffer on 'Live From The Paladium' in the seventies, is The Milwall Song that he penned for his beloved Loy-ans. It makes you pine for Chas'n'Dave, even though Maxwell - along with those two stoopid brothers, who stopped talking to each other because one of them's St Bernard - by the name of Schnorbitz :rolleyes: (WTFDTM?) - shat over the other's carpet -would be more suited to White Hart Lane (or Highbury)...if you know what I mean. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by sylvo
So now Celtic offer an outlet for Scottish independence. Despite devolution they are still under the jurisiction of England/Whitehall/Britain call it what yoo will. Scots carry British passports. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy
Declan, my love, Celtic represent Scotland when they play in Europe. Would you like me to spell out why? Because they play under the auspices of the Scottish Football Association. Obviously you misunderstand my reference to "independence" in the context of the home nations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Declan_Michael
Right, let's just cover that again. Celtic play under the Scottish FA. Not the British FA, the UKFA or even the frigging Martian FA. Clear?
Eejit. :rolleyes: ;) :p
:D PP
Feck, I thought they were Irish? :D ;)