http://www.independent.ie/national-n...d-2104303.html
Let's hope he's the next Great White Hope.
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http://www.independent.ie/national-n...d-2104303.html
Let's hope he's the next Great White Hope.
All the clubs have been tracking him for sometime. Too early to say how far he will go but hope he makes it too professional level.
Remember posting this about him few weeks ago in Shane Duffy thread. I should be a scout. lol
Glad to hear that. I haven't seen much of him to be honest. How about the U21 and U19 'keepers? I've heard that there's another young Donegal keeper in the U19 squad... Hopefully he's taken inspiration from Packie and Shay!
The Finn Harps keeper is Irish under 19 keeper, Ciaran Gallagher, got good potential, time will tell. Also the under 16 or under 17 keeper is from Donegal and is being tracked by nearly all the top clubs over the water. He is from Glenea, think his name is Joe Coll or something like that!
Well, he's from Donegal, so I think we can be sure he'll be brilliant. 6'1 at 16 isn't bad either - hopefully he'll get a bit taller.
There's another goalkeeper from Donegal who was nets for the U18 Schools team. Marty McGinty I think is his name. Not sure who he's with, but he was linked with Hibs last year.
there was a 17 year old GK that moved from Monaghan United to Wolves in September called Aaron McCarey. Worth keeping an eye on from all accounts....
That's a spectacularly Irish name.Quote:
Originally Posted by Predator
Conrad Logan another keeper overseas from Donegal
Coll leaves United with a year left on his contract: http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...d-3158384.html
Now if Trap is worth his salt, he'll get him a trial at a middle of the table Serie A club. The boy has bags of potential.
Agree that our management/coaching team should be helping out lads like him, whether it's Trap or Alan Kelly or whoever it might be. Don't want to be unduly critical of Trap, but my big concern would be that he probably has very little knowledge about lads like Coll. Previous managers like Brian Kerr, Mick McCarthy and even Stan were probably very up to speed with our youth teams. I know Coll is one for past Trap's tenure, but I do think that it's important that an international manager is aware of what is coming through.Quote:
Originally Posted by mark12345
Best thing for young Coll to do now is to come back to Ireland and play a few seasons of League of Ireland. Get himself noticed easier.
hed probably walk into the shams team
Not necessarily. Just because he was with Man Utd doesn't mean he's any better than anyone that's currently in Ireland. Jansson was with Tottenham after all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Acornvilla
Rovers also declined to offer former Manchester United goalkeeper Conor Devlin a contract in the winter. Jansson was evidently better.
I know, it doesn't make sense to me either.
Yeah I was basically saying the Swede sucks balls, bless him.. Devlin would have been worth a punt too really, Shams made some awfuly stupid decisions as regards GK's anyway, and this Coll lad could hardly be as bad a move, I wonder would he bat an eyelid at a 6 month contract + CL footie..
He is only a baby in GK terms thou.
Nonsense, if Shamrock Rovers were to sign any goalkeeper now they should be looking at Graham Stack on a short term deal.
Stacks never really set the world alight thou, had hoped hed be useful and looked like he would be for quite a while, but he obviously isn't up to a whole lot.. Can't be worse than Oscar or whatever thou!
Or a certain A.Smith perhaps?
Maybe, but I think I stopped growing by the time I was 16, although I was 6' by then anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
But I have read the age men stop growing taller variously reported at 18 20 and 22. I guess it varies a lot.
Same for me I was just under 6 foot at 15, and then never grew again!
Seemingly, hasn't found a club. Does anyone have an update on him? is it time to wonder about his future?
According to a poster on YBIG from Donegal, Joe is at home playing Gaelic and was homesick. Shane Supple all over again. Will be interesting to see if he ever returns to football.
Funny, I heard he was out searching for a club in England not so long ago. Would be an interesting signing for someone like Harps.
I always figure it must be damning on the confidence of a young player like that to be released and told they're not good enough to make it.
It's precisely why I believe they shouldn't be going to the top clubs in England.
Was he released by Man U? I understood that he walked away from them on his own terms.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Technically yes, he quit because he wasn't getting any football there supposedly.
Afaiu Man u wanted to keep him on their books which is not the same as being released.
That's the problem with going to Man U so many good players there it's hard to get anywhere which is not going to do
your confidence any good, better to start at a less club where you are more likely to get opportunities and progress
which will boost confidence.
you have to balance out the lack of opportunities against the superior training, facilities, etc that you won't get at lower ranked clubs
You can't beat experience gained through game time in my opinion.
Maybe.Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
But the top clubs naturally have not only the best players but their pick of coaches also. Would the holes in Robbie Keane's game that stopped him from being a world class player throughout his career have been better coached and ironed out of him at a bigger side than Wolves?
Understand, I am a Robbie fan, but I still think he hinted at even more than all he delivered, which is considerable none the less.
I wonder how Shane is doing & is he playing at any level. I thought he was a fantastic prospect!Quote:
Originally Posted by gastric
Supple is Stephen Cluxton's understudy for Dublin.
he might be pushed up to 1st team this year then.
Would generally agree. A lot of talented lads who go to big clubs without getting regular football (Miller, Gibson, Stokes, Potter, Stack, Clifford, Henderson) end up having superior technique for the experience, but with question marks over work-rate, hunger and/or suitability for high-pressure competitive football. On the other hand, the players who served their time with LOI or smaller British clubs, and had regular first-team football from a young age (McCarthy, Hoolahan, Coleman, Long) have tended to make better use of their potential, and been able to stand out as genuine, hard-working team players once they make the step up, without lacking much in terms of technique.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Of course, there are exceptions, but most top-level Irish players fall in between these two extremes - coming through EPL academies, but then dropping down a division (like Whelan, Kelly, Walters, etc) and rebuilding their careers from there.
I'm sure this was posted but he signed for derry wil b backup to their international first choice keeper
The fundamental problem is if the player is good enough though. There is a bias by us fans that when an Irish player signs for a big club we automatically put him on a pedestal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Supreme feet
The reality is though there are plenty of players who haven't made the grade at big clubs that are now playing for other pl and championship clubs. The fact that some Irish ones have't (along with other nationalities) means they are not good enough.
This is not just an Irish problem or issue!
I believe The more fundamental problem for Irish football is the technical ability of players we are producing between 8-14. It is currently no where good enough so how can we improve the overall standard of technique with Irish kids.
Perhaps slightly harsh including Gibson in that group. Issue with Trap aside, which is maybe indicative of immaturity/a petulant attitude, he's shown himself to be more than capable having moved on to Everton.Quote:
Originally Posted by Supreme feet
The 64,000 dollar question right there. I've been banging away on this drum for years on this messageboard and no one wants to take up the debate with any sort of conviction. The issue is, as you quite astutely point out, the lack of technical ability of our youngsters. How do we improve it? My suggestion is that the FAI hire a few good South American youth coaches and let them work with the pick of Irish talent. Give the coaches a five or six year contract. Far better investment than spending telephone numbers on Trap.Quote:
Originally Posted by kennedmc
Just saw this Mark which reminded me of your post...very interesting read about our coaching mentality which we've talked about here before.
http://theleagueofirelandblog.blogsp...column_18.html
i really wanted to read that but the white on black text after 10 hours sitting in front of a pc is just too difficult. Actually even after 1 hour id say its too difficult read white on black background.