Reported in todays mail that Drogheda face another revenue wind-up order if a tax bill is not cleared in the short term. It was claimed that half the amount had been paid recently but the revenue want the remainder cleared asap.
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Reported in todays mail that Drogheda face another revenue wind-up order if a tax bill is not cleared in the short term. It was claimed that half the amount had been paid recently but the revenue want the remainder cleared asap.
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and here was me thinking the league colud'nt look much worse? i'm sure it cant be that much money thou.. i taught the drogs were back on their feet?
Bloody hell. To be in trouble again so soon after examinership would be a feckin disgrace.
Also it seems unlikely that DUFC could have a tax clearance cert is this is true.
so whats the chances theyl be relegated now aswell if they dont cough up pretty quick? i'm sure all this will impact on their lisence application and whatnot.. there'll be no teams left soon!
Really sorry to hear that, if it's true.
They seemed to cut their cloth after examinership and I know a lot of the guys up there were putting in a huge amount of work to get the Claret and Blue club off the ground. They had a decent enough season on the pitch too, considering where they were at this stage last year.
Everyone has been looking at galway, but maybe Drogs are the reason Bray and Shels were reportedly told to get their Premier licences ready. Apparently Cobh have been told to get their first division licence sorted too.
One thing is for sure, there are going to be many twists and turns in the weeks to come.
2 things. Firstly, with the FAI now placing so much emphasis on tax clearance certs, with regards to giving licences, have the revenue been keeping track of that and played a very smart, trump card? Or is it just coincidence?
Secondly, i'm in no way suprised by this revelation.
If you're just joining us, this is not a repeat from 2008.
You'd imagine they'd have budget problems too, which would lead to problems signing players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
There were enough rumblings out of Drogheda towards the end of last season too (Hoey saying that finishing teh season out was their immediate priority); you'd imagine there's no smoke without fire and all that.
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Originally Posted by Mr A
Would agree.
Maybe this is just way too OT but does Alan Mathews not have a duty of care to himself and the club as a Financial Advisor/Banker, albeit I know he is not employed in that capacity with drogs. You'd imagine he'd see this sort of thing coming?? After all his budget (playing staff and exp) would be the single biggest expenditure item.
Feel really sorry for the fans on this.
They trumped our wage offer(though that wouldnt be hard according to reports) for Michael Daly recently by offering 600 per week part time.If this is true then is it any wonder they are in trouble?? Also whatever Sean Connolly goes near seems to end in disaster so was his departure the sign that all was not well.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Bit harsh, I think. He's given a budget and - we'll assume - kept within it. There's no reason that he'd know the entire club budget, and whether the wage budget was reasonable. If he asked questions, you could easily lie about what the shirt sponsorship was worth, for example.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fr Damo
What does this mean for Drogheda and the 65% rule?
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Originally Posted by shep
Thats not true. When we offered Daly a contract it was the only offer on the table for him. He agreed to accept and when Dundalk offered him terms he couldn't take it because he had already accepted Drogs offer.
Connolly wanted the budget increased for this year. He didn't get it.
Tbh I'm absolutely furious about this. It was well known (and possible announced IIRC) to the fans that we had a debt built up at the end of last year. They were very vague even then about how it would be cleared. Obviously it wasn't. I doubt very much that the FAI knew about this because AFAIK nobody in Drogheda knew (apart from certain people in the club). I'm very sure that heads will roll over this farce. The more I think about it the angrier I get...
If this is true, at what stage does Hoey get lynched?
Apologies Chatterbox...u are right that Daly had not recieved a proper offer from us and felt messed about...however the figure quoted is correct,and was a warning signal that someone was losing the run of themselves in terms of wages being offered.Quote:
Originally Posted by chatterbox
Is Daly signed and sealed at this stage???
A Drogheda forum post indicates this has also been on LMFM and that a club meeting has been called for tonight.
Wonder how much it is? I know Revenue are making no allowances for anyone these days . You won't get a TCC if you owe them money doubly so if your track record is poor. Looks like they'll have to get it paid before the 30th.
E50k and since paid, according to a poster on the Drogs forum.
Though if it's paid, it seems strange to arrange a meeting so quickly.
If it is paid they probably want to placate any angry members.
Maybe they're going mole hunting?Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
I'd be truly shocked if this is what has happened. I can't believe it would have come to this already. Apparently its already been cleared and the revenue didn't mention anything about a winding up order. Sensationalist journalism?Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Word up in Drogheda is that this is nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Tonights meeting is about volunteers for the coming season and was organised a while ago. Vincent Hoey supposedly cleared the Drogs tax bill a while ago. I didn't think the revenue told journalists who they were coming after.
Mind you FS Drogheda Ltd is facing a winding up order. They are a hairdresser in the town. Now a journalist couldn't be mistaken could they???
Notice here
Ah I'm sure time will tell.
He'll be made Life President before they blame him for anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
He already is Life President and has been for may years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macy
Don't criticise a man whom you know nothing about, nor have you any concept as to what he has done for football in Drogheda. Vincent Hoey has saved the club countless times over the last 40 years.
Same to you Stu ....
No, I think I'll criticise him if it's all the same to you. You can do great work for a club and still deserve criticism for nearly killing it, like Ollie Byrne.
Fair point on the meeting tonight being already arranged though. Although newspapers - even tabloids - don't make stuff up about the LoI for the hell of it. Still think there's no smoke without fire, but sure we'll see what happens. The implication on the Drogs forum is that the amount has been paid, which again implies it was owing and is at odds with the whole story being made up.
Article from the Drogs forum -
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Originally Posted by Daily Mail
Have to agree with this,i worked in Drogheda for many years and its well known he has dipped deep into his own pockets on many occasions to help the Drogs...slate oters but i know for sure that you would be hard pressed to find a man who loves Drogheda United as much as this guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Celdrog
It's all well and good putting your hand in your pocket to help the club, but the question must be asked as to why this is necessary so often?
Above all, how can the club have ended up with a substantial revenue debt so soon after examinership, and despite a decent season on the field?
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.......The FAI have been critical of Cork City's arrears and it remains to be seen how thy deal with the plight of drigheda, who are tenants on FAI property, United Park, a ground that does not meet Premier Division standard.
Did the FAI ever carry out the requiired improvements to their ground, on which premise they gave Drogs a Prem Div licence last season?
Planning permission for 1100 seats had been lodged (poss. granted by now not sure). They basically award themselves a license so the ground isn't an obstacle from the clubs point of view.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buile Shuibhne
Must apologise for my misunderstanding about the meeting. I jumped to a conclusion there.
Wasn't the licence being awarded on the grounds that planning permission for improvements had been applied for - planning permission which has been turned down?Quote:
Originally Posted by Buile Shuibhne
Or am I mistaken?
Don't think PP has been turned down?
Isn't there something going on whereby the FAI are using the planned improvements as a way to allow United Park to be used in the premier when everybody knows the improvements won't happen?Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Or am I just wrong and confusing the situation with something else?
Yes, it is from the outside, but I'd share the view that it's amazing he was let back near the club after the whole debacle that lead to examinership. If there is another winding up order, and he still escapes criticism, then the pope must be jealous of his infallibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by Celdrog
They also trumped Pats' offers for Harris, Kenna and McNally yet Pat's wage bill for this season is still about 25% larger than what Drogheda's wage bill was last season.Quote:
Originally Posted by shep
Definitely something odd going on up at United Park and this possible winding-up order is not a shock for me.
Decision due this SaturdayQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
For this season its irrelevant what the decision is. It will be appealed if turned down and the licence will be awarded. If its approved the licence will be awarded.
Who knows if they will do any improvements? Nobody in Drogheda for sure.
If the ground isn't up to scratch by November we should be relegated (probably should have been 2 years ago).
I kind of agree and disagree at once. The man is a genuine character and totally committed (in every sense) to his club. However to plough so much money into the club and still end up wobbling can be put down to poor management. Maybe, as was mentioned already, he is too much in the mould of Ollie who just couldn't let go of all the reins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
I think you are bang on, Revenue would never comment on individual cases, so not sure the story holds too much water, unless the journo has a pal in Revenue who leaked him infoQuote:
Originally Posted by Celdrog
Bullsh*t about Hoey escaping criticism from Drogs. Hes got plenty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macy
This whole story would appear to be bullsh*t as well
Just when I though most clubs were starting to get their stuff together :( sigh...
dont know how it works in the south, but if ye do that in the north its considered a breach of the official secrets act, which is a pretty big stick to beat a leaker with. i'd imagine that youse have similar legislation at work, although they'd probably just charge ye under the offences against the state act.Quote:
Originally Posted by WoodquayBoy
very odd with the timing though. story comes out, and the bill's apparently already paid. are there any other independent sourcrs, or is it all feeding off the back of that paragon of journalistic integrity, the daily mail?
Are you sure about all that? I would be surprised if Kenna/McNally left for Pats tbf even on better terms. As for Harris, I would struggle to believe that Harris left Pats for a club he was very clear that he didn't want to join a few years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by total hoofball