Galway United for Europe 2010?

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02/12/2009, 6:51 AM
Paddyfield

Galway United for Europe 2010?

From a local newspaper.....

http://www.galwaynews.ie/9931-united-get-euro-chance

United get Euro chance

December 1, 2009 - 9:11am

'Fair Play' ranking could propel Galway into Euro action
EUROPEAN football could return to Galway for the first time in 19 years next July thanks to Galway United�s high finish in the FAI�s Fair Play League for 2009.

United finished joint third in the table alongside Drogheda United in a table that, just like the final Premier Division table, was topped by Bohemian FC with Shamrock Rovers finishing in second.

In its efforts to promote fair play, UEFA award three extra places in the first qualifying round of the Europa League to the domestic Fair Play winners from the top three Associations in the UEFA Fair Play League, which will be published in May 2010.

Should Ireland finish in the top three places of the UEFA Fair Play League, due to the fact that Bohemians and Shamrock Rovers will already represent the League of Ireland in UEFA competitions next year, the remaining place will go to the highest placed team in the Fair Play League.

As United and Drogheda finished tied for third in the Fair Play League on 1,093 points, a drawing of lots would have to take place to decide which team would advance to the Europa League if the League of Ireland finishes in the top three of UEFA�s Fair Play League.
02/12/2009, 8:02 AM
tiktok

I can't see Ireland finishing in the top three Fair Play places.
Dundalk put paid to that sometime around June with their 75th Red Card.
02/12/2009, 8:11 AM
The Lilywhites

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiktok

I can't see Ireland finishing in the top three Fair Play places.
Dundalk put paid to that sometime around June with their 75th Red Card.

Is the ranking not based on the fair play of the international team?
02/12/2009, 8:15 AM
tiktok

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Lilywhites

Is the ranking not based on the fair play of the international team?

It's all national teams and all club teams participating in UEFA Competitions [so underage too].
Not sure if the Domestic League/Setanta Cup falls under 'UEFA competition' tbh.
02/12/2009, 8:21 AM
corkboy360

Hope they get it.
Nice club & nice stadium & nice fans.
Don't get that much in Ireland.
02/12/2009, 8:46 AM
passinginterest

There's been a bit of talk centered around Ireland, FIFA and fair play recently, just in case anyone missed it! Wouldn't be at all surprised to see an extra UEFA cup spot winging it's way over here, although the mess so many clubs seem to be in at the moment might not necessarily make it a good thing.
02/12/2009, 9:54 AM
pineapple stu

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Lilywhites

Is the ranking not based on the fair play of the international team?

It is, yeah. So protests at referees, asking to be in the World Cup anyway, demanding replays, threatening to sue FIFA - none of that'll really look good on the aul copybook.
02/12/2009, 10:04 AM
marinobohs

Quote:

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

It is, yeah. So protests at referees, asking to be in the World Cup anyway, demanding replays, threatening to sue FIFA - none of that'll really look good on the aul copybook.

Or the opposite might apply ! perhaps all the (nonsencical) moaning will result in an extra place just to shut us up.
hopefully, as I believe the more teams/clubs get a chance of European football the better for the League. I would imagine that a euro tie would generate a decent level of interest in Galway.
02/12/2009, 10:08 AM
Celdrog

Quote:

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

It is, yeah. So protests at referees, asking to be in the World Cup anyway, demanding replays, threatening to sue FIFA - none of that'll really look good on the aul copybook.

Surely its yellows and reds?
We only got 3 (?) bookings in the entire campaign (up to Paris). The discipline was brilliant, well we protested a bit after Michael Jordan arrived on the scene
02/12/2009, 10:14 AM
Buller

One things for sure, it will have to be a very convincing Dvd this time, Uefa are a completely different kettle of fish to the FAI...

Wait, did I miss something?!
02/12/2009, 10:15 AM
tiktok

It's not just the behaviour of the senior international side, it's all underage international teams as well plus Pat's, Sligo, Bohs and Derry in European competition.
02/12/2009, 10:19 AM
Straightstory

Quote:

Originally Posted by corkboy360

Hope they get it.
Nice club & nice stadium & nice fans.
Don't get that much in Ireland.

Agree.
02/12/2009, 10:21 AM
pineapple stu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celdrog

Surely its yellows and reds?
We only got 3 (?) bookings in the entire campaign (up to Paris). The discipline was brilliant, well we protested a bit after Michael Jordan arrived on the scene

Nope, it includes attacking play (screwed there), respect for match officials (em) and general overall fair play, not just reds and yellows.

Tiktok's point is true also, although I think the whole France farce will have completely killed this one off even before you look at anything else.

Quote:

Originally Posted by marinobohs

Or the opposite might apply ! perhaps all the (nonsencical) moaning will result in an extra place just to shut us up.

Eh, no. That'd be giving into bullying.
02/12/2009, 11:38 AM
marinobohs

Quote:

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Nope, it includes attacking play (screwed there), respect for match officials (em) and general overall fair play, not just reds and yellows.

Tiktok's point is true also, although I think the whole France farce will have completely killed this one off even before you look at anything else.

Eh, no. That'd be giving into bullying.

........Hmmmm and we know football authorities are so good at standing up to bullying. doubt it would be the deciding factor but will not do us any harm.
02/12/2009, 12:05 PM
brendy_�ire

Good oul Wikipedia:

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Ranking
All representative teams from a football association are responsible for the score of the fair play ranking of that association. This includes match of all national teams and all clubs in all UEFA competitions. The ranking is composed from June 1 until May 31 the next year. The criteria for the ranking is of course Fair Play.

Criteria
Teams are judged on the following criteria:

Yellow and Red cards: If no cards are shown the score will be 10. Every yellow card will deduct this total by 1. A red card will cost a team 3 points in the ranking. If the red card is the result of a second yellow card the deductions of the second yellow card will be ignored. But if a player gets a direct red card after he got a yellow card earlier, the yellow card will be counted as a deduction. This score could become negative.

Positive play: For positive play a team can score a maximum of 10 point and a minimum of 1 point.

Respect to the opponent: e.g. returning the ball to the opponent at a throw-in: maximum 5 points, minimum 1 point.

Respect to the referee: maximum 5 points, minimum 1 point.

Behaviour of the team officials: maximum 5 points, minimum 1 point.

Behaviour of the fans: maximum of 5 point and a minimum of 1 point
NB: this criterion is ignored when the number of fans is negligible e.g. if there are no fans at all or because of penalty that was given by the UEFA.

The total number of points will be divided by the maximum number of points (40 or 35) and multiplied by 10 which will result in a score between 0 and 10.

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At least we can't lose marks for not 'respecting the referee'. :-)
02/12/2009, 12:13 PM
A N Mouse

There's usually some kind of interim fair play table announced towards the end of January. I wouldn't be holding my breath.

Was it, just, last year the system changed to the top three countries?

Used to be top two, and then next five/six draw lots for the last place.
02/12/2009, 12:42 PM
brendy_�ire

Quote:

Originally Posted by A N Mouse

Was it, just, last year the system changed to the top three countries?

Used to be top two, and then next five/six draw lots for the last place.

Aye, changed with the introduction of the Europa League.
02/12/2009, 1:17 PM
Schumi

Quote:

Originally Posted by brendy_�ire

Yellow and Red cards:
This score could become negative.

LOL, who could that apply to?
02/12/2009, 6:17 PM
grayzer1888

Ireland have never been awarded a place in Europe for fair play so I wouldn't hold my breath if I was a Galway fan, plus the fact we're not exactly on good terms with the ruling bodies won't help matters :mad:.
03/12/2009, 8:30 AM
1882

Must be a slow news day in Galway, this has been fact since a week after the league finished and it is a very small chance if any.
03/12/2009, 11:04 AM
ndrog

If by some miracle chance that the place is offered to a loi club there will be a draw to see who gets it between Drogheda united and galway :eek: That would be interesting to say the least .Couldnt see us taking it even if we where offered it tbh . To expensive and we cant play the games in Drogheda unfortunately :(
03/12/2009, 4:07 PM
Schumi

Quote:

Originally Posted by ndrog

If by some miracle chance that the place is offered to a loi club there will be a draw to see who gets it between Drogheda united and galway :eek: That would be interesting to say the least .Couldnt see us taking it even if we where offered it tbh . To expensive and we cant play the games in Drogheda unfortunately :(

The fair play teams get in a few rounds into the competitions as far as I know, they used to anyway, so there'd be a good chance of drawing a reasonably big team so it would probably be worth taking the place if it did come up.
03/12/2009, 6:14 PM
gufc2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1882

Must be a slow news day in Galway, this has been fact since a week after the league finished and it is a very small chance if any.

I think you'll find that the Fair Play League results were only announced about a week ago