I Love Noel Hartigan

After seeing the performances of Noel when he came on as a sub last week in the Brandywell and again when he started yesterday I think that Liam should say, "Noel you've got your act together, now I'm going to start you and CP against Bohs. Don't let me down."
Hartigan has a chance to prove himself now.
With Mulligan sure to miss the Bohs game Murphy will surely consider the option of the same starting 11 from yesterday. CP being just 18, Noel is the more experienced of the two and should lead our attack. It's always great to have Morley as an option on the bench. While Morley is above both Hartigan and CP in the pecking order I think that he plays his best football with Mulligan.
Murphy has to be happy enough with the performances of CP and Noel to show confidence in them next week.

Stephen O'Flynn take note, there are at least four strikers in front of you. You have a lot of work to do!

Noel did play surprisingly well against Derry. I still don't think he the player to bring off the bench when chasing the game though.

Did he play well yesterday? He put a good pass through to whoever setup Kelvin for his cracker from what I saw on the news.

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Originally posted by rebel
Did he play well yesterday?

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He was far better than usual, but then that still doesn't say much. IMO He is just too slow, too awkward, too light-weight and too disinterested to warrant a place. I'd personally throw in any one of the youngsters instead of him. Even though Tony Tynan is far from the finished article, at least he throws himself around and makes runs and gives a ****.

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Originally posted by rebel
Did he play well yesterday? He put a good pass through to whoever setup Kelvin for his cracker from what I saw on the news.

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You already know that I think he played well yesterday. His partnership with CP will only improve the more they play together.

Ollie set up Kelvin for the goal.
Ollie was absent for long spells in the game again.

Noel is probably better in the away games where he doesn't get as much abuse & hes main role is to hold the ball up.

I'm surprised O'Flynn hasn't been given more opportunities as eventhough he wasn't great in the few games he played he did look like he would improve if the team were playing better. O'Flynn needs to learn to retain possession more & looks like a good eye for gola if given a chance.

It was actually Noel who set up Jonny C for the winner against Da Boez last year. I think that his hold up play is ok, so Id say that he'll be used again next week. I wouldnt be too sure of CP starting though, Id say that Morley & his experience will get the nod.

Hartigan was his usual self again yesterday - lazy, awkward and useless. C P O'Brien almost fought a lone battle up front - but how well he did! At one stage yesterday a cross came in but it was just too high for O'Brien - however where was Hartigan: almost up on O'Brien's back when all he had to do was drift in space at the back post like any decent striker and he would have been left with a free header and a certain goal.
Mulligan and CP up front with Morley on the bench and Hartigan back manning the defence for the under-21s

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Originally posted by Seanie
Hartigan was his usual self again yesterday - lazy, awkward and useless. C P O'Brien almost fought a lone battle up front - but how well he did!

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The whole point is to have CP playing off Hartigan. Flick ons and the like. Hartigan is far from lazy! He has a lazy run like Kanu where he drags his legs and looks slower than what he is.

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At one stage yesterday a cross came in but it was just too high for O'Brien - however where was Hartigan: almost up on O'Brien's back when all he had to do was drift in space at the back post like any decent striker and he would have been left with a free header and a certain goal.

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That was one mistake but when you look at how many times they've played together you can expect that they'll have misunderstandings.

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Mulligan and CP up front with Morley on the bench and Hartigan back manning the defence for the under-21s

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Mulligan will be out for at least another week, so it's almost certain he wont start against Bohs.

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Originally posted by Seanie
At one stage yesterday a cross came in but it was just too high for O'Brien - however where was Hartigan: almost up on O'Brien's back when all he had to do was drift in space at the back post like any decent striker and he would have been left with a free header and a certain goal.

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Let me get this right, both our strikers made the same run to the back post, but Hartigan was the one at fault?

My own feeling on that incident was one of them (either of them really) should have made a run to the near post to give the crosser another option.

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Originally posted by joe
My own feeling on that incident was one of them (either of them really) should have made a run to the near post to give the crosser another option.

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Strikers have to work on the crossover and CP is still a raw talent. Yes he should have gone near post to draw the defender away but these are things that he'll learn and I have no doubt that Liam Murphy is one of the best people to ensure that he does learn. Hartigan was probably wrong to go in for the same ball because if he had dropped back a few metres he'd have been open for the ball when it dropped. I think CP is still to slow to go to the near post. He's young and keen and always wants to get on the ball.

I still love Noel Hartigan...

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and I have no doubt that Liam Murphy is one of the best people to ensure that he does learn

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eh what planet are you on boy!!

learnt what though.
Gunther is tactically inept
he's proved that over and over and over again
I'd worry about what he'd be teching them myself

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Originally posted by James


eh what planet are you on boy!!

learnt what though.
Gunther is tactically inept
he's proved that over and over and over again
I'd worry about what he'd be teching them myself

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At least I'm in the same country as the manager in question James! You haven't been at the last two games so your not allowed to make comments like that.
May I suggest you go to one of Murphy's coaching classes and tell me that you knew it all before!

Where's your web-site on coaching?

hartigan didn't play well. Full stop. End of Story.
I dare anyone to recall 3 things he did well yesterday.
Apart from walk off the pitch that is.

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Originally posted by Barry's Tea


Strikers have to work on the crossover and CP is still a raw talent. Yes he should have gone near post to draw the defender away but these are things that he'll learn and I have no doubt that Liam Murphy is one of the best people to ensure that he does learn. Hartigan was probably wrong to go in for the same ball because if he had dropped back a few metres he'd have been open for the ball when it dropped. I think CP is still to slow to go to the near post. He's young and keen and always wants to get on the ball.

I still love Noel Hartigan...

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Don't get me wrong, I wasn't criticising either player. All I was saying was they both made the same run (it happens from time to time, especially if the strikers are playing their first match together), but Seanie immediately saw this as Hartigan's fault. I was merely trying to point out that, depending on your viewpoint, either:
a) it was both their fault
b) it was neither player's fault

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Originally posted by GWA
hartigan didn't play well. Full stop. End of Story.
I dare anyone to recall 3 things he did well yesterday.
Apart from walk off the pitch that is.

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1) Fed the ball to Ollie C. that lead to the goal.
2) Cut out several longford passes in front of the back 4.
3) Held the ball well. I can't recall him losing the ball.
4) Played the ball on the ground when possible.

Hartigan looks lazier than he is. I'm no great fan of his but credit where credit is due - yesterday he had a good game. He covered a fair bit of ground too, back in defense helping out , in the middle of the park and up front.

Why don't you tell me 3 actual mistakes he made apart from playing for a team with the most begrudging supporters anywhere?

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Originally posted by GWA
hartigan didn't play well. Full stop. End of Story.
I dare anyone to recall 3 things he did well yesterday.
Apart from walk off the pitch that is.

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Well he did make the first goal...

Peadar, about your comment that I missed the last 2 games so I cant comment! :confused:

Well isnt it a wonder you make so many posting, what with you being in and out of the country so often!

but then seeing as your a boez fan I always wondered why you bothered posting on the city section anyway.

anyway I've just finished fending off scooooty and i really dont want to get into this with u. ok!

FAO Jim check the hyperlink to my coaching section off the main page of my old site JamesIsntInCorkAtTheMoButCommentsonCityAnyway.com

Gunther is delighted with him anyway, here...

CP does not have eyes in the back of his head and couldn't have known if Hartigan was behind him. However Hartigan was staring his backside in the face. That was the only example of Hartigan's incompetence I have cited but there were plenty more if I wanted to go on.

3 mistakes. hhhhm. Tough one.........

Well how many times did the fella actually jump and try and head the ball. and to further that how many times did he go on and actually win the ball in the air. Shall we count them all as individual mistakes????

oh i can hear you say now, that isn't part of his game. well excuse me but what is part of his game? If a guy who is at least 6'2 cant win headers there is something wrong.

I'm sick to my teeth of arguing about NH. my fingers are worn to mu fcuking knuckles complaining about him. howeever, I will say, it aint his fault our 'manager' picks him week in week out.

IMO it would be great if the shed started chanting (without the sarcasm) Hartigoal next week versus Pats.

Ollie robbed the ball off the defender & laided the ball across for Noel who might have steadied with a touch & slotted easily under the keeper.

His 2nd should really have been ollies who picked up the breaking ball in midfield, and raced around the defender only for the keep to come out & parry is shot, Noel followed up & nodded in from a yard with defender trying to block him.

For him to play 3 games in a week his fitness can't be questioned. Hes actually flicking the ball on too now by winning headers. Still doesn't always hold the ball up as well as he can.

Soccercentral.ie have picture of my boy Noel here wearing an Adidas shirt. I don't think the site existed when we last wore Adidas gear. You'd think it could be a bit more up to date!
4 goals in 3 games isn't good enough for the knockers!
Don't worry Noel will keep at it regardless of what the non believers think. Great to see Mulligan back too.

Hartigan is a goal machine!
Glad I was at the Cross on Sunday to see him knock in two more.
He'll bag a few at Richer on Friday for sure.

...Hartigan is odds on to bag a few more on Sunday against the Government Grant Gang. Let's hear it for Noel.

Noel Noel
Noel Noel
Born is the goal king of the eL

I know it not my place to give out about our on form striker ( I thought I'd never say that) but surely Colin O'Brien should get a start against UCD, in the past UCD have really managed to fustrate the City forwards and Colin P. does give us something extra when he plays, a bit of trickery. Mind you Hartigol should be on the benchv :D

are you a buddy of Harti, barry tea?

Coz if you are, then all your previous postings on this topic would make sense.

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Originally posted by SÓCcfc
I know it not my place to give out about our on form striker ( I thought I'd never say that) but surely Colin O'Brien should get a start against UCD.....

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IMO Colin P ain't ready to start yet. It'll be Jimmy & Hartigoal to start & Buks back on the right of midfield but will Gunther play O'Rourke or Deccie at the back?

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Originally posted by GWA
are you a buddy of Harti, barry tea?
Coz if you are, then all your previous postings on this topic would make sense.

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There's enough people giving Noel a hard time on this forum, I thought that since I appreciated his improved form I should say so. That's it, no hidden agenda.
Jeeze this forum is full of conspiracy theorists and paranoia heads!