On now.
Con Murphy surely has broken the MNS record for quickest error ? only a minute gone and he said Cretaro scored against Bray, when it was actually Eoin Doyle :D.
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On now.
Con Murphy surely has broken the MNS record for quickest error ? only a minute gone and he said Cretaro scored against Bray, when it was actually Eoin Doyle :D.
It was hard to tell, they showed that little of the game.
I honestly wouldn't have known from the clip.
Disco Tony really putting the boot into TNB there.
about bloody time everyone outside of cork city fans can see and say what Tommy No Bobs is like
First red card in the Dundalk v Sligo game looked very harsh, the other two looked right.
Jaysus, how did the referee think that was a red for Delaney!
Connor is such a bitter little Bo**ix!!
3 blatant red cards...fair play to Tony...should be us that are giving out about the ref...obvious handball in front of the ref that should have been a 2nd peno..
What more do you want? The games nearly a week old and there was a single goal that decided the issue. That was plenty.Quote:
Originally Posted by centre mid
All 3 reds looked nailed on to me. Heary should have got a straight red rather than a second yellow.
If anything, Sligo were hard done by, as that looked a penalty near the end.
Cretaro's play acting there was shocking.Quote:
Originally Posted by centre mid
maybe but intent was thereQuote:
Originally Posted by CameramanConka
It did look like Cretaro was struck, but he did go down like a ton of bricks.Quote:
Originally Posted by CameramanConka
The Dundalk player's actions right after could have got him sent off as much as the elbow, tbh.
:eek: Ye the way he faked the Dundalk player smashing him in the face and then the way he faked the ball being bounced of his head while on the groundQuote:
Originally Posted by CameramanConka
The ref only got one major decision wrong and that was not giving Sligo a peno
A stray pinkie in the eye more like it. Cretaro has form for this type of carry on.Quote:
Originally Posted by hoops1
Ye and he bounced the ball off his own head.
You really are our number 1 fan this week:DQuote:
Originally Posted by CameramanConka
I assume the player was send-off totally on the basis of the afters as there was no 'elbow'.Quote:
Originally Posted by brianw82
But, what about Clive Delaney? That was some tackle of O'Brien. He could have amputated his two legs!!!
Thought Cretaro exaggerated the contact from Dundalk player, but the ball bounce was a red carfd offence in itself. Agree Heary should have got a straight red, and Sligo should have got a penalty at the end. People say there was intent in Cretaro incident, but I don't buy into that. Same with O'Brien, he said there was intent with Delaney so he went down. Horse****, it was a dive, pure and simple, and I am disappointed he stooped that low, was not so long ago United (me included) were complaining about Baker's theatrics which saw Shane Guthrie be sent off for us
Can't complain about red cards numbers 1 and 3. I thought the Turner sending off was harsh. His arm was by his side and he really tried to block the ball with his chest. There was no intent to handle the ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by SMorgan
The Galway Utd player needs to look at himself.
Perhaps, but I'm sure the red card was for hopping the ball off his head.Quote:
Originally Posted by CameramanConka
The camera man did well to capture both instances, MNS cameramen usually miss the key talking points.
The Galway United player needs to be fined retrospectively for unsporting behaviour.
I'd agree about intent, but he did lean over (trying to get his chest in line with the ball) and it did hit his arm, so, I'd say that's a free, and consequently a red.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
It did hit his arm and was a penalty. However, as far I am aware, there must be intent for a red card to be given.Quote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
I thought denying a goal scoring opportunity warranted a red? and whether there was intent or not the ball was heading for the back of the net.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
Delaneys red on the other hand was laughable, a red card when there was no contact at all.
anyone know who it was that sent off danny murphy against bray the other week? hit his hand on the line but didnt mean it at all, and got sent off. turner leaned towards the ball when you see it in slow motion and it hit his hand so i think its a red tbh. he tried to chest it away, he didnt, it hit his arm. surely no complaints from dundalk about 1 or 3. dont think theres much room for complaint on the turner one either.
connor is some idiot. if he cant see that there all red cards he shouldnt be in football. looking for the limelight again asking the players to come off. blatant handball at the end aswell. the referee bottled it for the last 20 minutes, gave dundalk everything to try and even it up a bit
Really? I assume you've seen every last bit of footage from every game. Christ almighty. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by showgies
Regardless of intention, I think they are both red cards.Quote:
Originally Posted by CF1989
You are very defensive about some pretty pathetic camera work at times.Quote:
Originally Posted by CameramanConka
Your continual negative comments about anything sligo rovers are getting boring at this stage(see your previous 6 foot.ie comments).Worry about your own team and we will look after ourselves
3 red cards justified , if ref gave pen for ventres handball , then the penalty at the end should without doubt have been given.
6 posts. SIX? Jesus, I should be shot. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by sligored
Just don't ask one of your camera man colleagues to do it, they'd only miss :DQuote:
Originally Posted by CameramanConka
Sorry. :o
:D :D Was waiting on that!!
Lads, one of the 7 sending off offences in law 12 is "denying the opposing team a goal or obvious goalscoring opportunity by deliberately handling the ball". The red card in the Dundalk match was spot on as was the red card in the Bray match the previous week. The players sent off where both standing on the goal-line so therefore denyed the opposing team a goal by handling the ball. In both games it was the same referee and he gave the correct decisions.
As for Sean Connor he hasn't got a clue! All the reds card were correct decisions.
The ket word in the rule is deliberately. That's what's being debated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dugout
He moved towards the ball and stopped it with his arm. If it had just hit him I could see room for debate, but the way it happened it looked an obvious red card.
I think by giving a penalty he has to deem it deliberate, you cant give a free(penalty) for accidental hand ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
Generally a free will be given if it hits a players hand even though he has had sufficient time to prevent it from doing so, even if he doesnt stick his hand out. Doesnt matter in this case though because he moved his arm towards the ball. Other two sendings off were definite reds. Did Dundalk seriously think of going off the pitch at one stage ffs.
The bad thing about it was that these antics worked out for them because the cross that was handled was a stonewall penalty, and the ref obviously didnt give it because of the pressure he was under(im not condoning the decision though).
Sligo must really be kicking themselves they didnt win the game, what were they doing for 22 minutes.?
The way I saw it was that he tried to block the ball with his chest. He kept his arm as far away as possible. Despite his best efforts it hit the top of his arm. This blocked a goal and Sligo deserved a penalty. However, the sending off was harsh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
Have just watched it on the Skybox.
Did anyone else not find it disconcerting that Rico, one of the main commentators on football on this island, didn't realise until very recently that the eighth placed team went into the play-off. And even then, their subsequent discussion got it wrong as they talked about it as a home-and-away event (i know the Prem v First one is), when their is a benefit to finishing eighth as the club has home advantage in a one-off event.
All Dundalk sending-offs, in isolation, looked correct. Considering the peno award in the first half when Ventre was no more than a couple of feet away and had no time to react to move his hand out of the way, the late one could have been given. Fair assumption to think Connolly was acting in the interests of his own safety. Or he didn't see it.
That was funny, especially when, within less than a minute, he called it unprofessional. Pot calling the kettle black.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaillimh Al
What I didn't undrstand was why Richardson feels it is 'unfair' to have the playoff between the teams at the bottom of the premier division - he said they should be judged over the course of a season, and it is silly that a team who finished 10 points clear of the team below them should have to play them in 1 game where they might be beaten.
But can't you use the same argument against the playoff at the top of the first division (and every playoff everywhere between teams who have already been competing in the same league). Why should the team in second place in the LOI First, who have shown themselves a couple of points superior (or even just a couple of goals superior) to the team below them have to go into a playoff where they might be beaten?
I don't really see what distinction he's trying to make.