Heard from two different reliable sources that no team has got a Premier license. If it's true, where does the league go from here?
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Heard from two different reliable sources that no team has got a Premier license. If it's true, where does the league go from here?
I know that todays irish star said that only ourselves and bohs would get it and that the general feeling is that we will get the licence. dont see how clubs like waterford and drogs will make up the extra seating required and the pitch is too small at tolka.
Heard a long time ago that no team would be close to getting one. There was talk of teams who had made progress towards the licence, which implies that some teams have just ignored it altogether. Talk about progress!:rolleyes:
i'm presuming there will be exemptions? all very well for The eircom league but will the exemption apply to european competition?
So Derry and Bohs will be the only two premier league teams next year? Should be interesting...
They could call it the Anglo-Jackeen Cup :DQuote:
Originally posted by Slash/ED
So Derry and Bohs will be the only two premier league teams next year? Should be interesting...
Strange as i would have thought that
City
Longford
Shels
Bohs
Sligo
would have all got it. I didnt think the Brandywell had a sufficient amount of seats.
What of Turners X? There are 6500 seats there? Ditto in the Flansiro?
The Brandywell has above the required 1,500 covered seats. There were a few issues with regard to the stadium, but they've been sorted out recently. I think another issue with us is accounts. Jim Roddy was saying something about it being a bit awkward because our accounts go through the Brits first, then have to be submitted to the FAI with approval from the (Irish) Revenue.
We'll get the license though.
theres so much more than just stadiums. Company certs must be origional no photo copys, all that type of thing. Accounts, training tax etc. Maybe its easier to fail all,than to give it to one or two.:confused:
Jesus Gary, ever looked at the document? Far more than seat numbers for the ground - the number a toilets, positioning of them, segregation, size of pitch (our biggest problem groundwise), media facilities etc etc.Quote:
Originally posted by Gary
Strange as i would have thought that
City
Longford
Shels
Bohs
Sligo
would have all got it. I didnt think the Brandywell had a sufficient amount of seats.
What of Turners X? There are 6500 seats there? Ditto in the Flansiro?
That's all before the financial side - our accounts are re-submitted, but we ain't officially back on the companies register, so that's us fúcked on it...
I remember hearing the one City would fall down on is loose surfaces on the St. Anne's End and down the sides. I'd say we'll have to tarmac that to get a licence.
From what I read about the licensing City are miles away from securing one. Turners X is a million miles from being up to scratch.
There cannot be any loose surfaces in the stadium. It has to be more wheelchair accessible. There needs to be better toilet facilities and there has to be toilets on both sides of the ground. Also Players and fans have to have different entrances to the ground and the current location of dressing rooms is unacceptable as far as I know.
You can be absolutely guaranteed that the financial aspects arent up to scratch either especially regarding ticket sales.
In fairness maybe some work has been done on the ground in the close season, I dont know. Does anybody know?
Pats main problem is the size of the pitch and having entrances on two sides of the stadium...
One can be done, not sure the other can...
quote from news section on County website :Fixtures for 2004 season.
The publication of the fixture list for the 2004 season has been deferred pending the outcome of the EUFA Club Licensing procedure. Decisions on the applications are imminent (Today Tues). A meeting of the Management Committee of the Eircom League will take place on Thursday 12th Feb “To adopt the 2004 Season League Fixture programme or to discuss the outcome of the EUFA Club Licensing decisions”
a bit ominous. Are we in danger of no league at all?
if you look here the FAI suggest that clubs must meet the criteria laid down in order to get and FAI licence to compete. It's also an independent body which awards the licences.Quote:
Originally posted by Countyman
Are we in danger of no league at all?
I don't think UEFA are enforcing this for at least another season though, it depends how the FAI reacts to the complacency shown by the EL clubs.
Is it complacency or the fact that clubs don't have the money, or rather the money the FAI promised when they launched the scheme... I've no doubt clubs could've done more (some premier clubs don't even meet the existing ground critea - step forward Drogs), but the FAI have to take their part of the blame.Quote:
Originally posted by tiktok
I don't think UEFA are enforcing this for at least another season though, it depends how the FAI reacts to the complacency shown by the EL clubs.
For example, they watched Longford build an all seater ground from near enough scratch, and then tell us our pitch is too small to get a licence a year or so later.....
Macy, such were the ground regulations at the time that I remember that if we bet Lovech we would have had to play our next home game in Tolka....
They rules seem a bit unclear.
Toilets both sides. So if you put toilets at either end of a stand you have toilets both sides? Do both ends count as both sides?
Ditto for enterences.
Pitch size. The pitch in Highbury is smaller than Turners Cross, wouldnt think it aint much bigger than Flancare. Like are the FAI really going to say Longford cant get a licence for their pitch but one of the biggest teams in Europe are allowed play on a pitch of much the same size.
Do we really need hot water in the taps?
Yeah, that's a fair point Macy.
I suppose the money will be even slower to come now that they've committed so much cash to the Landsdowne redevelopment. Are City, Shels and Longford waiting for the Euro money handout, if so though, where does that leave everybody else.
To be honest when i said complacency, City were on my mind. There can't have been that much work to do. The toilets near the Club shop are terrible and there's a few patches of uneven ground near the shed exit and St.Anne' end, but the club should have been among those in the best staring position.
Except things are never that simple in Cork football. Seeing as we dont own the Cross the MFA would have to give the permission to do these things etc. I dont think licencing is high on the MFA's list of things to do.Quote:
Originally posted by tiktok
To be honest when i said complacency, City were on my mind. There can't have been that much work to do. The toilets near the Club shop are terrible and there's a few patches of uneven ground near the shed exit and St.Anne' end, but the club should have been among those in the best staring position.
the clubs were to get a decision by registered letter this morning, none arrived. The acting chairman of the league is meeting Fran Rooney at the moment. Exect an announment this afternoon. :confused:
More likely I'd say would be points deductions, like in Germany (Kaiserslautern docked three points this year). Would look ridiculous with every club in the league being docked points, but I wouldn't put it past the eL...Quote:
Originally posted by Countyman
Are we in danger of no league at all?
Can't see anyone being relegated on the grounds that no team in the First stands out as being better than any in the Premier.
I take it you don't visit the eL board anymore? Sure everyone knows that Galway are the only one's ready... :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by pineapple stu
Can't see anyone being relegated on the grounds that no team in the First stands out as being better than any in the Premier.
But they won't be let up because of the Dublin conspiracy (including Longford).:DQuote:
Originally posted by Macy
I take it you don't visit the eL board anymore? Sure everyone knows that Galway are the only one's ready... :rolleyes:
You missed out Cork - sure they got allocated a share of the European Money, which was a Dublin stitch up obv....Quote:
Originally posted by Schumi
But they won't be let up because of the Dublin conspiracy (including Longford).:D
This is heading for the realms of fantasy lads
However Drogheda have to be an at risk club? Sligo and other would have better existing grounds than the Drogs
Apparently there was a fire in the FAI today, so no announcements till tomorrow.
This just gets better and better, doesn't it?! If Shels or Pat's get their application turned down, expect them to claim that part of it was lost in the fire...:rolleyes: :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by Ringo
Apparently there was a fire in the FAI today, so no announcements till tomorrow.
No chance they could do something properly for once, is there?!
No.Quote:
Originally posted by pineapple stu
No chance they could do something properly for once, is there?!
Incidentally I read the licencing summary when it came out last year and just downloaded the full manual (it's on the FAI website) some of the ****e is unreal. ''Club should arrange for public transport to connect with all main railway stations, bus stations and airports
They've given themselves plenty of leeway, see my posts hereQuote:
Originally posted by tiktok
if you look here the FAI suggest that clubs must meet the criteria laid down in order to get and FAI licence to compete. It's also an independent body which awards the licences.
I don't think UEFA are enforcing this for at least another season though, it depends how the FAI reacts to the complacency shown by the EL clubs.
http://www.srfcultras.com/showthread...&threadid=4367
At Rovers' AGM last night the club said we will get our licence
Quote:
Originally posted by pineapple stu
This just gets better and better, doesn't it?! If Shels or Pat's get their application turned down, expect them to claim that part of it was lost in the fire...:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
No chance they could do something properly for once, is there?!
Ollie seen running from a burning building in Merrion Square this morning.:D
A lot of the premier teams will qualify for First Division licences. but not Premier licences.Quote:
Originally posted by TheRealRovers
At Rovers' AGM last night the club said we will get our licence
:D :DQuote:
Originally posted by Ringo
Ollie seen running from a burning building in Merrion Square this morning.:D
Sure nobody would suspect him either - everyone knows water is his method of choice!:p
My favourite is the bit that say premier division grounds need to have a lightening conductor but first division grounds don't.Quote:
Incidentally I read the licencing summary when it came out last year and just downloaded the full manual (it's on the FAI website) some of the ****e is unreal. ''Club should arrange for public transport to connect with all main railway stations, bus stations and airports [/B]
maybe they could go back to the old 1st division and 2nd division system. they everyone would qualify, whats in a name :D ;)
According to soccercentral not even one club managed to get a premier division licence. Some sham. Completely the clubs faults i reckon.
Lack of support, and will, in the FAI I would say is more to blame personally....
Apparently us and Dublin have got a First Division license. No mention of anyone else just yet.
Derry are appealing for a premier licence.... Apparently it's all Harps fault, and their appeal will be "we're from the 6 counties you know"...