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What do you reckon .... is he sweeping the dirt out from under the rug ?
It was on the tip of my tongue .... just wouldn't roll off !! :)Quote:
Originally posted by Conor74
unless someone is gonna mention the Blennerville windmill...
Has Dick Spring done something to you personally, Conor? :eek:Quote:
Originally posted by Conor74
Perhaps the saddest irony is that he was struggling to get by, working for the minimum wage in the Aquadome...which is of course Dick's Springs lasting legacy in Tralee, unless someone is gonna mention the Blennerville windmill...
No FF are just running scared from the real opposition Party in this country....Quote:
Originally posted by patsh
Has Dick Spring done something to you personally, Conor? :eek:
From the program I don't think there was anything bad said about the aquadome itself, just getting surviving on the minimum wage.... And if that's such a trouble, who exactly is the main Government Party that sets it? Might not have been such a trouble if FF had removed minimum wage workers from the tax net instead of cutting corporation tax (yet again)...
Course not ..... those slides are WIZARD !! :DQuote:
Originally posted by Macy
I don't think there was anything bad said about the aquadome itself
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Might not have been such a trouble if FF had removed minimum wage workers from the tax net instead of cutting corporation tax (yet again)...
Now now Macy .... I am sure Uncle Bertie et co know best !! :D
It's obvious they do their best, for those most important to them - the horsey set, big business and the rich...Quote:
Originally posted by A face
Now now Macy .... I am sure Uncle Bertie et co know best !! :D
no harm having a mirror held in front of us now and again. good show, well put together.Quote:
Originally posted by A face
What do you reckon .... is he sweeping the dirt out from under the rug ?
Of course, Ahern must be going through the biggest crisis of his "career" at the moment....Quote:
Originally posted by Macy
It's obvious they do their best, for those most important to them - the horsey set, big business and the rich...
On the one hand, there is Magnier, McCreepys puppet master, and McManus, the man who would bankroll 1/20 of the cost of the Abbotstown stately pleasure dome.
and then on the other
is Sir Alex, the man who has guided and led the Teashock's beloved "reds".
With important matters like this on his mind, I'm sure Ahern could do without the trivialities of Europe, his government's continuing destruction of what remains of a society in this country, health, transport, poverty and all the other issues whinging, creeping jesus' seem to think are important.
i think des bishop is an arrogant cúnt. His show is a complete and utter ego trip.
idiot. He's likel "oh, look at me, I've only got two euro the day before payday, oh give me sympathy"
Try having NO euros the WEEK before payday a$shole.
Prat.
think ruairi should get his own show now.......
Whatever Des can do I can do poorer ;)
His whole point is that there are people who have to live like that all the time. He's saying that €6.35 an hour is not a realistic wage to do more than subsist on. He's saying that the people in this counrty treat people working in jobs like that like **** - something I'm quite aware of. It's not about Bishop, it's about how crap our minimum wage is.Quote:
Originally posted by Ruairi
i think des bishop is an arrogant cúnt. His show is a complete and utter ego trip.
idiot. He's likel "oh, look at me, I've only got two euro the day before payday, oh give me sympathy"
Try having NO euros the WEEK before payday a$shole.
Prat.
haven't seen the aquadome episode but in the opening episode he made a point of getting across that he wasn't looking for sympathy, that he only had to work there for a limited amount of time.
The minimum wage has gone up to €7, which I believe is one of the highest in the EU, if not the highest. Still crap right enough, but you can't vastly inflate wages without a corresponding increase in prices, which negates the wage increase in the first place.Quote:
Originally posted by John83
It's not about Bishop, it's about how crap our minimum wage is.
The most interesting point about minimum wage work is that fairly often workers in the likes of Abrakebabra work far harder than people earning vastly more than them. In particular people in the IT industry, who quite obviously do absolutely nothing whatsoever of any value for their money. Stupid IT industry.
Fúck him. This isn;t about Bishop making a point of our minimum wage (which, BTW, has been raisd to €7 an hour for every experienced adult worker), it's about him making as much ****ing money as possible in the process.....Quote:
Originally posted by John83
His whole point is that there are people who have to live like that all the time. He's saying that €6.35 an hour is not a realistic wage to do more than subsist on. He's saying that the people in this counrty treat people working in jobs like that like **** - something I'm quite aware of. It's not about Bishop, it's about how crap our minimum wage is.
You think he's making that documentary for minimum wage? Or the stand up show that's based on his "minimum wage" experiences... you think he gets 6 bob an hour for that?
They guy's megalomaniacal arrogance is somethin else altogether... so what if he can work on minimum wage.... all he does in his show is complain... you think after this show that he's going to stay on minimum wage (i'd be scpetical that he's doing that while the show's going on anyway)
what an idiot, plain and simple
You are joking John aren't you?Quote:
Originally posted by John83
He's saying that €6.35 an hour is not a realistic wage to do more than subsist on.
The show has nothing to do with minimum wage.
It was a poor attempt by Mr Bishop to be funny.
It's so not funny that people are confusing it with a social issues documentary.
Mr Bishop was laughing at how the Aquadome was trying to be like an American water park but it had just two crappy slides. The Aquadome is a swimming pool with slides. I've never heard anyone try to claim differently.
Mr Bishop is from America where the minimum wage is dictated by the fast food industry and the federal minimum wage is $5.15 an hour.
Well known states such as;
Kentucky
Michigan
New Jersey
New York
Texas
all offer $5.15 per hour.
Ok so not all states comply with this.
In California it's $6.75
In DC it's $6.15
In Rhode Island it's $6.75
In Washington (State) it's $7.16
But states like Florida and South Carolina have no state minimum wage law.
Bishop was trying to survive in Tralee on minimum wage, maybe he should try surviving in New York on $5.15
Inflation has increased more than the minimum wage anyway, but not making people pay tax on the minimum that they can be expected to live on would be a start.Quote:
Originally posted by MikeW
The minimum wage has gone up to €7, which I believe is one of the highest in the EU, if not the highest. Still crap right enough, but you can't vastly inflate wages without a corresponding increase in prices, which negates the wage increase in the first place.
On inflation, the one thing that could be done that would start tackling it right away would be to de-regulate pubs. But even the PD's haven't the bottle for that.
Lighten up FFS, it was pretty funny, and it's obviously made people think about what it would be like surviving on the minimum wage. That has to be a good thing, doesn't it? Or if it makes people think before being obnoxious in the chipper, then that can't be bad....Quote:
Originally posted by Peadar
You are joking John aren't you?
The show has nothing to do with minimum wage.
It was a poor attempt by Mr Bishop to be funny.
It's so not funny that people are confusing it with a social issues documentary.
Well said.Quote:
Originally posted by Macy
Lighten up FFS, it was pretty funny, and it's obviously made people think about what it would be like surviving on the minimum wage. That has to be a good thing, doesn't it? Or if it makes people think before being obnoxious in the chipper, then that can't be bad....
Smacks of the drunk muppets in Waterford telling him to go back to America. He's making this for RTE, not NBC. Yes, the minimum wage is ****e in the states too. Big deal. Try telling that to the poor schmucks stuck on it here.Quote:
Originally posted by Peadar
Bishop was trying to survive in Tralee on minimum wage, maybe he should try surviving in New York on $5.15
So maybe the poorest people in the country should take a wage freeze while the teachers look to get another 17% increase on top of the 13% they already got, and while the TDs salary has gone up for the third time in a year? Now that would be a ****ing joke.Quote:
Originally posted by MikeW
The minimum wage has gone up to €7, which I believe is one of the highest in the EU, if not the highest. Still crap right enough, but you can't vastly inflate wages without a corresponding increase in prices, which negates the wage increase in the first place.
I'm not telling anyone go back to America even if his humour is something which could only be appreciated by his fellow countrymen. All I'm saying is, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.Quote:
Originally posted by John83
Smacks of the drunk muppets in Waterford telling him to go back to America.
The show may have worked with someone like Hector but as it is, it's as much a waste of the license fee the money spent buying the Osbournes.
Seen him quite a few times, and he's normally good.... He's been in Ireland since he was 14 or something - it's not like RTE paid for him to come over....Quote:
Originally posted by Peadar
I'm not telling anyone go back to America even if his humour is something which could only be appreciated by his fellow countrymen. All I'm saying is, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
The show may have worked with someone like Hector but as it is, it's as much a waste of the license fee the money spent buying the Osbournes.
As for Hector - I'd suggest he'd cost more to do the programme than Bishop, as he's a far bigger name. Don't think he'd make any difference to the show and would definitely have taken away from the Abra episode merely by being Irish...
What, you're saying that someone from Meath wouldn't get abuse from drunkards down the country? :DQuote:
Originally posted by Macy
would definitely have taken away from the Abra episode merely by being Irish...
I've seen a bit o the show but think Hector be too recognisable to use.
Yeah stupid IT industry alright, it'll never catch on.Quote:
Originally posted by MikeW
The most interesting point about minimum wage work is that fairly often workers in the likes of Abrakebabra work far harder than people earning vastly more than them. In particular people in the IT industry, who quite obviously do absolutely nothing whatsoever of any value for their money. Stupid IT industry.
Doesn't mean (some) people don't work for their wages though.
The rest of us are simply paid for our intellectual genius :DQuote:
Originally posted by pete
Doesn't mean (some) people don't work for their wages though.
3rd highest actually (yesterdays Examiner was where I read that).Quote:
Originally posted by MikeW
The minimum wage has gone up to €7, which I believe is one of the highest in the EU, if not the highest. Still crap right enough, but you can't vastly inflate wages without a corresponding increase in prices, which negates the wage increase in the first place.
As for the comment about wage increases, it makes you sound like a member of the Small Firms Association. How apt that their initials spell out SFA, seeing as that lot would like to see everyone getting paid Sweet F**k All!!
Cracker programme IMO. Especially the stand-up cut scenes. Getting his €2 stolen - brilliant. ****in meself laughing at/with(?) him. The programme also helps point out the pathetically low minimum wage in this country. And €60 for his medication. That's not on. (All health care should be provided free by the State). And while he would have been worse off on minimum wage over in Yankeeland, that's nothing to be proud of. IMO, minimum wage should be, at the very least, €10 an hour.
He's in a hotel in Dublin next week. Looking forward to it.
I'd be very surprised if someone on minimum wage in the Republic of Ireland isn't entitled to a Medical Card?Quote:
Originally posted by brendy_eire
And €60 for his medication. That's not on. (All health care should be provided free by the State).
Bishop is only pretending to be on minimum wage so he probably doesn't qualify.
yeah, I'd agree, but it helps to make the point that 60euro expenses can appear out of the blue, and what that means to someone who's on minimum wage.Quote:
Originally posted by Peadar
I'd be very surprised if someone on minimum wage in the Republic of Ireland isn't entitled to a Medical Card?
he'll barely be able to afford rent, can't see him getting out of the kip he can afford muchQuote:
Originally posted by brendy_eire
He's in a hotel in Dublin next week. Looking forward to it.
I'm a student, and I don't qualify for one (which I think is a disgrace). I think the card only covers the cost of medicine up to a certain value anyway. Anyone know their stuff a bit better?Quote:
Originally posted by Peadar
I'd be very surprised if someone on minimum wage in the Republic of Ireland isn't entitled to a Medical Card?
Bishop is only pretending to be on minimum wage so he probably doesn't qualify.
I read an interview with him recently, and he said that Dublin was the worst place for money (though Tralee was up there), so it should be fun.Quote:
Originally posted by tiktok
he'll barely be able to afford rent, can't see him getting out of the kip he can afford much
I'd be very suprised if they do.... Limit is €142.50 per week, so that's just over 20 hours a week at €7....Quote:
Originally posted by Peadar
I'd be very surprised if someone on minimum wage in the Republic of Ireland isn't entitled to a Medical Card?
Bishop is only pretending to be on minimum wage so he probably doesn't qualify.
The Internet knows everything!Quote:
Originally posted by John83
Anyone know their stuff a bit better?
Look here
Thanks!Quote:
Must look into this again. The key point is what exactly constitutes "financially independent".Quote:
Full-time students aged 16-25 who are financially dependent on their parents would only be entitled to a medical card if their parents held a medical card. Students who are financially independent of their parents, e.g., they have income from part-time work, and who satisfy the means test may be entitled to a medical card. In this case, the health board where the student is attending college would issue the medical card.
ill probably get hammered for this but who the Fcuk is des bishop??:confused:Quote:
Originally posted by A face
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I think minimum wage job are really designed for part-timers & students 'n such. However no one on minimum wage should pay any tax at all but FF ain't achieved much with regards that in their time in power.
N2, Monday night, 10.00. Watch it. (eejit :rolleyes: )Quote:
Originally posted by the 12 th man
ill probably get hammered for this but who the Fcuk is des bishop??:confused:
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Originally posted by John83
[SIZE=6] TDs salary has gone up for the third time in a year?
Are you serious .... for what ..... when did this happen ???
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He is a comedian who was living in Cork for about 4-5 years and moved to Dublin as he was getting more TV work.Quote:
Originally posted by the 12 th man
who the Fcuk is des bishop?
He is from New York and moved here when he was 12 or something like that.
He has a very convicing Cork twang when he wants and i'm sure he'll have picked up a few more along his travels.
Still has his American twang and will always be reminded of this a lá Abra programme the other night. Typical though.
The programme is provoking debate and probably spell out a few things for a few people in the process ..... now if he could only re-enforce the message and ask people to go out and vote to try and change their situations.
Then we might have some fun !!
He actually went to school in Blackrock College, hence the equally convincing D4 rugger bugger accent.....Quote:
Originally posted by A face
He is a comedian who was living in Cork for about 4-5 years and moved to Dublin as he was getting more TV work.
He is from New York and moved here when he was 12 or something like that.
He has a very convicing Cork twang when he wants and i'm sure he'll have picked up a few more along his travels
If you don't live at home and you are supporting yourself with part-time work.Quote:
Originally posted by John83
The key point is what exactly constitutes "financially independent".
blah blah blah - FF/PD in coalition since 97 and still it's all the fault of those that were there before them.....Quote:
Originally posted by Conor74
. Previous ministers who had chosen not to bother with setting a minimum wage during their time in that Department include that champion of the working classes, Pat Rabbitte...