New English Season Accumulator

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27/07/2009, 9:38 AM
Den Perry

New English Season Accumulator

Every year i do me acca where I try to pick the winners of the 4 / 5 English divisions and CL. Maybe this year the World Cup also!!

Just wondering what opinions are out there, especially regards the divisions lower than Premier League.Difficult to know what signings / releases clubs in the lower divisions have made. I suppose betfair might be best place to get some info off local lads on the forum?

So anybody want to give their ew winners of the 4 English Divisions, The European Cup and the World Cup?
28/07/2009, 8:46 AM
bennocelt

yeah we all do these bets
I usually wait till the excellent pre season review by FourFourTwo comes out, mid august - it really is an in depth analysis' to the coming season
28/07/2009, 9:53 AM
Den Perry

Will the season not be started when it comes out?So far I'm thinking along the lines of:

Premier League: Man City ew????12/1
Championship: Middlesboro 7/1
League One: Leeds (nap) - though they are a little short 3/1
League two: Rotheram 7/1
World Cup: England 8/1
Champions League : R Madrid 5/1

A few there are probably a little ovbious and there are usually a few longshots that surprise everybody
28/07/2009, 10:00 AM
De Town

Quote:

Originally Posted by Den Perry

Premier League: Man City ew????12/1

How many places are being paid out on? Coz I really can't see City in the Top 4 next season.
28/07/2009, 10:14 AM
Den Perry

Quote:

Originally Posted by De Town

How many places are being paid out on? Coz I really can't see City in the Top 4 next season.

Only 1/3rd the odds on top two.So backing City probably would be a bit daft

in the other divisions its 1/4 the odds on top three
28/07/2009, 10:28 AM
bennocelt

Quote:

Originally Posted by Den Perry

Will the season not be started when it comes out?So far I'm thinking along the lines of:

Not the English games, but the scottish leagues might be a week on when the mag comes out, but i could be wrong
28/07/2009, 10:29 AM
De Town

Quote:

Originally Posted by Den Perry

Only 1/3rd the odds on top two.So backing City probably would be a bit daft

in the other divisions its 1/4 the odds on top three

Yup pointless backing City so, definitely won't get into the Top 2. Will be between United, Pool and Chelsea again I think, impossible to call at the moment in my opinion.
28/07/2009, 12:40 PM
Den Perry

Quote:

Originally Posted by De Town

Yup pointless backing City so, definitely won't get into the Top 2. Will be between United, Pool and Chelsea again I think, impossible to call at the moment in my opinion.

I agree but Ronaldo will be a huge loss to Man ure. The betting without the top four looks interesting. Everton are 6/1 and it pays 1/5th the odds the top three. City at evens looks tight.
28/07/2009, 1:20 PM
De Town

Quote:

Originally Posted by Den Perry

Everton are 6/1 and it pays 1/5th the odds the top three. City at evens looks tight.

Thats a great price for Everton alright.
28/07/2009, 2:15 PM
Mr A

Everton are a good side but will they get in the top 3? I don't think so, much as I'd like to see it.
28/07/2009, 2:25 PM
bennocelt

Wouldn't the best bet then be to do man city/everton then in the handicap market where they are usually given a 12/15 point start?
you def would get better odds
28/07/2009, 2:28 PM
De Town

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr A

Everton are a good side but will they get in the top 3? I don't think so, much as I'd like to see it.

Its the betting without the Big 4.
28/07/2009, 2:59 PM
Mr A

Ah crap! That makes way, way more sense.
29/07/2009, 12:55 PM
Den Perry

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennocelt

Wouldn't the best bet then be to do man city/everton then in the handicap market where they are usually given a 12/15 point start?
you def would get better odds

do you mean City or Everton to win incuding top 4 with a 12/15 point start?
29/07/2009, 3:30 PM
bennocelt

Quote:

Originally Posted by Den Perry

do you mean City or Everton to win incuding top 4 with a 12/15 point start?

http://www.paddypower.com/football/u...grp_ids=112107

i won on this before, when i had Arsenal 2 seasons ago, with a 12 point start (as far as i remember - but that was the year they sold henry so nothing was expected)
07/08/2009, 12:28 PM
Den Perry

Well Lads, the season starts tomorrow....can I get your tips please?
07/08/2009, 12:47 PM
The Betting Man

Quote:

Originally Posted by Den Perry

Well Lads, the season starts tomorrow....can I get your tips please?

It starts tonight at 8pm Boro v Sheff United its live on Sky Sports
07/08/2009, 1:26 PM
Mr A

I think Man United should win it and 2-1 on them is decent enough.
07/08/2009, 2:24 PM
Den Perry

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Betting Man

It starts tonight at 8pm Boro v Sheff United its live on Sky Sports

Jaysus, I'd better get on,Boro are my fancy for the championship!!!!1
07/08/2009, 3:07 PM
De Town

Prem Man United
Champ Reading
L1 Leeds
L2 Rochdale
Champ Lg Inter
World Cup Spain
07/08/2009, 5:20 PM
Raheny Red

Sheffield United to finish top of the Northern group:

Newcastle 2/1

Middlesbrough 5/2

Sheffield United 9/2

Preston 9/1

Sheffield Wednesday 11/1

Doncaster 28/1

Barnsley 33/1

Blackpool 40/1

Scunthorpe 50/1

The teams ahead of them in the betting are too short. They look the strongest.Should be strong enough to bounce back from their play off final defeat. United went close last season and should be capable enough to be involved again. Ched Evans is a shrewd acquisition, he has a bright future ahead of him and can easily bag a hatful of goals this term. Sheffield have got adecent blend of youth and experience. Newcastle and Boro have lost their best players and are both involved in a transition period now. While on the other hand Sheffield United are in a different position as they are building for the future while the other pair are dismantling and counting the cost for previous mistakes. The bottom four can be disregarded really as they are the four favourites for relegation also. 9/2 looks a good price as well considering the next best price is 7/2.

Backing Sheffield United to finish top of the Northern group @ 9/1 with Totesport 3pts.

Interestingly United face Boro tonight.
07/08/2009, 6:00 PM
bennocelt

I did
Chelsea
Cardiff
MK Dons
Rangers
and Motherwell without C/R
10/08/2009, 10:39 AM
Den Perry

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennocelt

I did
Chelsea
Cardiff
MK Dons
Rangers
and Motherwell without C/R

I still havn't done it!!!

But I think I won't be picking Boro....

Cardiff
Leeds
Bournemouth
Real Madrid
England / Spain
10/08/2009, 1:56 PM
gilberto_eire

Quote:

Originally Posted by De Town

Yup pointless backing City so, definitely won't get into the Top 2. Will be between United, Pool and Chelsea again I think, impossible to call at the moment in my opinion.

Yip as it always is, then our national broadcaster states ''the most exciting league in the world'' in their new add for ''The Premiership''...it's not exciting, it's like the hurling at this stage with United been like Kilkenny...... when you compare it to our league WE have the most exciting in the world, where else would a team playing in Europe be fighting relegation(i.e Sligo):D
10/08/2009, 2:20 PM
bennocelt

More bets I did.....................

Y Zhirkov pfa players of the year - 66/1!!!!!!!!!!!!!:)

Chelsea, man utd, arsenal - in that order - 20/1

Drogba top scorer - 10/1

actually did Boro to be relgated at 33/1 !!!!!!!!!!! (hell i had Leeds, Charlton and Southampton in previous years so maybe............:))

Chopra top scorer 14/1

also did Norwich to be relegated at 28/1, but to be honest was mostly done in spite to annoy my English mate who is a mad Norwich fan

Hereford relegated at 9/1

Gillingham promoted at 14/1

K Miller top scorer at 9/1
10/08/2009, 3:34 PM
De Town

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennocelt

also did Norwich to be relegated at 28/1, but to be honest was mostly done in spite to annoy my English mate who is a mad Norwich fan

This ones looking fairly good so far! :D
10/08/2009, 5:38 PM
bennocelt

Quote:

Originally Posted by De Town

This ones looking fairly good so far! :D

the thing with these kind of bets is once they get a new manager then its kind of all over..................I had Blackburn to be relegated last year and it was lookin like a great bet then Big Sam came in and did his usual man behind the ball thing...................so I reckon the Norwich fella will be gone pretty quickly...............new man then means new impetus
10/08/2009, 7:49 PM
Mr A

Aye, I had the same situation with Portsmouth last year when the hoors got rid of Adams.
11/08/2009, 12:13 PM
CF1989

portsmouth to be relegated. get on
11/08/2009, 1:23 PM
DmanDmythDledge

Quote:

Originally Posted by CF1989

portsmouth to be relegated. get on

You're a few weeks behind.;)
http://foot.ie/forums/showthread.php?t=121188
12/08/2009, 10:50 AM
Mr A

Stuck a Lucky 15 on Chelsea, West Brom, Charlton, Notts County.

Also threw a small stake on Hull to finish bottom at 4-1.
13/08/2009, 11:31 AM
The Betting Man

Birmingham at evs to be relegated,think thats a great bet
13/08/2009, 12:35 PM
endabob1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr A

Stuck a Lucky 15 on Chelsea, West Brom, Charlton, Notts County.

Also threw a small stake on Hull to finish bottom at 4-1.

I think you're pretty much bang on but Charlton might struggle to finish top purely from a lack of experience at that level, Colchester or Mk Dons look good bets
15/08/2009, 2:24 AM
CF1989

for tomorrow i think im going to go for chelsea -2, fulham win and wolves win
16/07/2010, 12:06 PM
Den Perry

Just looking back at this, De Town, some seriously impressive tipping from you there. Also bennocelt

My own original picks were somewhat wide of the mark shall we say,England, Real Madrid etc....

Right, this year am combining my money and predictions with a mate, Doing each way acca and ew lucky 31 / lucky 63. If we have a differance of opinion, we'll do a bet each and split the winnings.(Am very confident this year) thinking along the lines of:

From Championship down to League 2 its 1/4 the odds on first three places
Championship:
Forest 15/2 to win, 5/2 to get promoted
Middlesboro 15/2 to win, 23/10 to get promoted

League One
Charlton 12/1 and 7/2
Huddersfield 8/1 and 11/4

League Two
Gillingham 12/1 and 12/5
Torquay 25/1 and 11/2

Conferaance
Luton 7/4
York City 12/1

Would value any opinions and your own fancies.
To

Championship:
06/08/2010, 12:39 PM
Den Perry

Right, here goes

5ew acca and 1 ew lucky 15
Forest 7/1
Peterborough 10/1
Crewe + 14 18/1
York City 12/1

same bets with top goalscorers
Earnshaw (Forest)16/1
Lee Hughes(Notts County) 14/1
Calvin Zola *(Crewe) 20/1 or Adam le Fondre (Rotheram) at 7/1
Gary Hooper(Celtic) 9/2

Here's hoping.....
07/08/2010, 12:08 PM
bennocelt

what im going with this year

Man Utd

maybe West Ham to be relegated!!!

Sheff Utd, Norwich and Bristol City
Rochdale,Swindon and Notts Co
Stevenage, Rotherham, Morecambe and Bury
York City, and Crawley
Rangers, and Motherwell
30/08/2010, 10:41 AM
Den Perry

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennocelt

what im going with this year

Man Utd

maybe West Ham to be relegated!!!

Sheff Utd, Norwich and Bristol City
Rochdale,Swindon and Notts Co
Stevenage, Rotherham, Morecambe and Bury
York City, and Crawley
Rangers, and Motherwell

Right, I backed Torquay at 25/1 ew a few weeks ago.
Only picked the acca / lucky 15 lasy week as wanted to see hoe season started

QPR 5/1
Peterborough 9/1
Torquay 8/1
York 20/1

Top Scorers
Lampard 20/1
Danny Graham 22/1
Jordan Rhodes 10/1
Calvin Zola 25/1

Lost a bit of value on Torquay in the acca though. they were 40/1 at one stage
08/05/2011, 12:17 PM
bennocelt

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennocelt

what im going with this year

Man Utd

maybe West Ham to be relegated!!!

Sheff Utd, Norwich and Bristol City
Rochdale,Swindon and Notts Co
Stevenage, Rotherham, Morecambe and Bury
York City, and Crawley
Rangers, and Motherwell

Not so bad this year, and i did Porto at 16/1 for the Uefa! nice

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