It's Mid Season in the 10 team league structure. How do you think it is going so far?:
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It's Mid Season in the 10 team league structure. How do you think it is going so far?:
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At the moment its kind of split into 2 more leagues, The top 4 of Bohs, Derry, Cork and Rovers, and the bottom 6 of Dundalk, Pats, Galway, Sligo, Drogs and Bray.
The advantage here is that all the games carry something, and everyone has something to play for
Hard to judge it mid-season in fairness. The monotony of constantly repeating fixtures hasn't had a proper chance to kick in yet.
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I would rather a bigger league than 10 team league. the teams play each other 4 times . its a bit monotomous to be honest
I would like to see a 16 etam Premier and then a first Division with whatever current teams are left and the few non league sides in the A division and then scrap the A division and go back to the under 20's league!
Was never a fan of the 10 team lge, I think a 16 team super lge/prem whatever name would be good, 30 games would be fine, and start the lge in April and end in Oct, have a real summer lge.
Just aslong as we are in the Prem I'm not bothered tbh.
10 team league sucks ... too boring and too repetitive, Id prefer a 16 team league myself, silly to have so many clubs rotting in the 1st div.
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I think one more restructure of the league will solve all it's problems.
We need to change the league numbers at the end of this season as clearly 10 teams is the origin of all LOI problems.
Lowest quality Premier division in a long time. Aside from Bohs on a good day standard of play is very poor.
I think its a hard one to call,i think playing each team 4 times is far from ideal,and teams like Shels Fingal and U.C.D would certainly not be whipping boys.Add in the appetite for football in Donegal among the fans when Harps are in the top flight and you really could start to make a case for the league to be at least increased by a couple of places.
As said by a fellow Dundalk fan,personally once we are there thats all i care about,but a 16 team league would be a good laugh if nothing else!!
i'd prefer a 16 team prem league, remaining teams in first division join with the A league non-league teams to form the first division.
Have u20 league too for all teams in prem and 1st div and let clubs put reserve teams in the intermediate/junior leagues if they want to.
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Originally Posted by galwayhoop
Its not too much for them, they just prefer to spend the money on first team players
Having youth and reserve structures shouldn't be viewed as a burden by clubs.
Back to the pointt...
For me its seems to have given the league a two season feel which i dont like at all.
The thoughts of playing each team again twice more makes me just shake my head.
i agree that it shouldn't be a burden but unfortunately it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
i agree that all clubs should have underage structures but at clubs like ours the money just isn't there, and by no means are the first team squad (all 22 or 23 of them) highly paid - far from it.
Personally i would rather if Galway United had u16, u18 and u20 teams (made up of the best local underage players) than the current u20 and A league teams. if at some point down the line the club had enough players to fill a second adult team then fair enough. Developing youth, imo, is far more important than providing football for second string players (which incidentally we don't have due to trying to survive with a minimal squad). A far cry from the DVD days but what can you do....
Two Words - Mickey Mouse!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by redobit
The only thing in favour of 10 teams over 12 teams is that its better to play each other 4 times than 3 times. Or at least it's fairer to play each other 4 times than 3. Unfortunately we've seen time and again that there is not enough quality in the league to support a 14 or 16 team Premier.
I like the new structure, I think playing 3 times is better suited to first division than premier. I'd absolutely loathe a 16 team league, far too many clubs would have **** all to play for.
There is the current 10 teams as well as Shels, Waterford, UCD and Fingal and then two other teams out of the current crop! You even go with 14 play each other twice and then split the league and play each team in whatever half you finish in once more! I know there would be one team missing each week but it would urge teams to keep competing even if they where in mid table!Quote:
Originally Posted by seand
The 10 league structure is rubbish imo. Teams face each other way too often when you take the possibility of playing each other in the cup into account.
Way too often? so you'd like to see them play each other once less? Once too many is way too many?Quote:
Originally Posted by sheao
Aye. We'll have met each other 6 times by the end of the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by sheao
Yes i would actually,When you take the cup games into account you could play a team more than the 4 games in the league. Just look at City v Sligo as an exampleQuote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Ya im sick of the sight of ye lads (no offence) and we still have to play each other twice more.Quote:
Originally Posted by sheao
In my opinion mulitiple meetings of teams is dilluting clashes that your team and supporters might otherwise feel are 'the usual big game against ... ...'
My point was that last year it was only one game less. I wasn't disagreeing with your point, I was just poking fun at you saying way too oftenQuote:
Originally Posted by sheao
No worries...
Likewise,we have to face a trip up to Sligo on a Sunday :P .Quote:
Originally Posted by redobit
At least you're playing a semi-decent team. We have 6 games against Drogheda this season, and 5 against Pats (as opposed to 3 last season).Quote:
Originally Posted by sheao
10-team league is a disaster imo. Not enough teams, too many series, too many games, and not enough crowds throughout. And there's the backlog of games from European ties to come.
Much preferred the 12-team league, even if it wasn't the best system. There's enough clubs now to form 2 14-team leagues.
Love this line -so how often and by what scores did you whip these so called poor sides in the league? My view would be that the current structuie results in fewer whipping boys, I remember in the 12 team league that quite often the bottom 3 were well a drift at this stage of the season - look how tight this season is. now in saying this I do feel that the 10 teams is also too small but I feel 16 teams would result in a lot of whipping boys with nothing to play for by mid season which does no one any favours.Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
How about reducing the league to two series of games in a 10 team div. Beef up the league cup (lots more money, tv games etc) to mix the 1st and prem div teams in a CL style format. or maybe even a CL format for the FAI Cup?
I would agree with you to a point on the 12 team league. I wouldnt remember a second from bottom or third from bottom finishing well adrift from the rest but I would remember bottom teams allright ie Galway Utd in 01/02 season I belive got 10 pts and dundalk got 39 pts so there was a big gap between both teamsQuote:
Originally Posted by SeanDrog
There's no reason that can't happen in a ten team league as well though.
true !the only way around it is do what they did up to 84/85 season combine the two divisions together and have a promotion/relegation playoff between top performing A league team and bottom of the league of ireland. then you wont have the problem of playin teams too often!
[QUOTE=mypost;1183598]At least you're playing a semi-decent team. We have 6 games against Drogheda this season, and 5 against Pats (as opposed to 3 last season).
Yeah and it took a replay to actually beat the worst team with the lowest budget in division .Great to see the arrogance of shams back with a vengance :rolleyes: We not good enough for you now ffs :D
From a 1st division perspective the main problem with the 10 team premier is that it is harder to get into, and harder to stay in if you do get promoted.
I never had a problem with the whole 4 times a season thing in the first div, but I dont think its suitable for prem. Although it is fairer.
But ye don't have far to travel to Drogheda ,For both City and Sligo supporters have to travel nearly the length of the country depending on who's playing away.Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
For some of these teams you'll have no extra away games, and you'll have either 1 or 2 extra away games in total.Quote:
Originally Posted by sheao
Whatever about the familiarity of it, the amount of trravelling can't be a reason to dislike the 10 team league
I think a 12 team league with a split like the SPL less walkover games in the 2nd half of the season and a few less games but that would not be great for the 1st division in my mind or
2 leagues of 10 (kildare enough said) drop the bottom 2 in the 1st division to the a championship, it wouldnt be a bad move for them really, less traveling costs.
but i really think we should not have a midseason break. (midweek games are no good)
Thats the way to go plus no more sturid midweek league matchesQuote:
Originally Posted by SeanDrog