LOI round 12

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12/05/2009, 7:38 PM
brianw82

LOI round 12

I'm guessing eL Bettor is still in tears at Waterford's inability to score in the first half against that pub team. :p

Odds here: http://odds-comparison.bestbetting.c...p--of-ireland/

There's not a whole lot that interests me so far, except a tasty 9-5 on us (Sligo Rovers) on the Draw No Bet market with Willy. Might have a cheeky punt on this as, though the table doesn't show it, I think we are slightly less worse than Pats at the minute.

5/6 on Fingal ht/ft (Hills again) might be worth looking at, too.
12/05/2009, 7:56 PM
Battery Rover

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Originally Posted by brianw82

5/6 on Fingal ht/ft (Hills again) might be worth looking at, too.

Depends on how our list of injuries is this weekend
12/05/2009, 8:39 PM
DmanDmythDledge

Definitely value in our game against Waterford. Still undecided about it. I think they are missing Cummins. I have a feeling their centre backs will keep our strikers quiet. Edging towards an away win at present.
12/05/2009, 9:30 PM
brianw82

Personally, I'll be staying away from the Kildare v Shelbourne game. Kildare have a new centre half, Dean Lawrence, ex-Shamrock Rovers and Shelbourne. He seems to have improved the defence quite a bit already judging by the (very biased) report on KCFC's website. That 2-nil will feel like a small victory for them, and Shels laboured badly against Longford on Friday for long periods (was at the game)
12/05/2009, 10:09 PM
eL Bettor

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Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

Definitely value in our game against Waterford. Still undecided about it. I think they are missing Cummins. I have a feeling their centre backs will keep our strikers quiet. Edging towards an away win at present.

So Waterford are missing their top scorer yet you still think there is value in an away win? :confused:
12/05/2009, 10:15 PM
eL Bettor

Brian, I'm on that 9/5 also on Sligo DNB with Hlls.

As for Kildare - Shels, to say the report on their website is biased is an understatement, it claims their first win of the season can't be far away, I remember thinking during the first half that I will have no reservations against continuing to bet against Kildare for the foreseeable future.
Shels are a best price 1/6 which I would have no fears about lumping on. If someone asked me to lay them 1/20 on Shels I wouldnt give it to them (that is if the bookies weren't going 1/6!).

What do people think about Mons away to Harps? I was amazed at the 13/5 given on Mons. That was before Paul Hegarty resigned but even still I'd only have Harps at slight favourites.
12/05/2009, 10:17 PM
Raheny Red

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Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

Definitely value in our game against Waterford. Still undecided about it. I think they are missing Cummins. I have a feeling their centre backs will keep our strikers quiet. Edging towards an away win at present.

You're under rating your side big time. You lot are quality and if I can get around 2.5ish on Betfair I shall be lumping on. You have beaten us and Fingal so far. WUFC have lost to ourselves and drew with Fingal. While WUFC are on a great run they haven't faced any decent sides in the past number of weeks.
12/05/2009, 10:24 PM
Raheny Red

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Originally Posted by eL Bettor

Brian, I'm on that 9/5 also on Sligo DNB with Hlls.

That's big alright considering a Sligo win with PP is 15/8. I won't be getting on either though as both sides lost 3-0 in their last fixtures and Sligo are behind them in the table.
12/05/2009, 10:26 PM
Mr A

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Originally Posted by eL Bettor

What do people think about Mons away to Harps? I was amazed at the 13/5 given on Mons. That was before Paul Hegarty resigned but even still I'd only have Harps at slight favourites.

Monaghan's record at Finn Park is absolutely woeful though, and we've been starting to look a little better. With Gethins and hopefully Funston back I think we'll nick this one.
12/05/2009, 10:38 PM
brianw82

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Originally Posted by Raheny Red

That's big alright considering a Sligo win with PP is 15/8. I won't be getting on either though as both sides lost 3-0 in their last fixtures and Sligo are behind them in the table.

Pats have lost 7 games, we've lost 5.
They've conceded 19 goals, we've conceded 13.
They've only scored 1 more goal than us.
Their 4 wins have come against Cork and ourselves (both of whom hadn't started playing yet at the start of the season), Dundalk (hot and cold) and a laboured victory over bottom team Drogheda.
We (generally speaking) don't put in 2 **** poor performances in a row.

Plenty of reasons to go against Pats right there. I'd agree with you in the sense that, on a purely analytical level, it's not a betting fixture. However, the odds on that DNB are too good to pass up.
12/05/2009, 11:05 PM
DmanDmythDledge

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Originally Posted by eL Bettor

So Waterford are missing their top scorer yet you still think there is value in an away win? :confused:

You've still got Kiely, who I rate a good bit more than Cummins. Our keeper is well dodgy, as is our defence although only slightly. Our prefered line-up is to play without a midfielder who sits back and this would be exposed if Waterford play to their potential (have to wait for team news on that one though). Also I'd be surprised if Waterford concede more than one goal with the central defence they have- Murray and Browne are better defenders than Kilduff and McMillan are strikers.

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Originally Posted by Raheny Red

You're under rating your side big time. You lot are quality and if I can get around 2.5ish on Betfair I shall be lumping on. You have beaten us and Fingal so far. WUFC have lost to ourselves and drew with Fingal. While WUFC are on a great run they haven't faced any decent sides in the past number of weeks.

We haven't faced anyone decent either. We are far from quality- we haven't really been tested so far this season. Fingal massively underperformed against us and Shels, while missing arguably their two best players, had the better of the game when both sides had the same amount of players on the field. I don't think we've been tested in the games that I've seen this season, bar Wexford.
12/05/2009, 11:12 PM
brianw82

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Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

We haven't faced anyone decent either.

You've faced 10 of the 11 other teams in the division, and come away with 9 wins. You can't really argue with that.
12/05/2009, 11:17 PM
DmanDmythDledge

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Originally Posted by brianw82

You've faced 10 of the 11 other teams in the division, and come away with 9 wins. You can't really argue with that.

Actually that was in response to RR's last point about Waterford's recent opponents. Same applies to us.

At the same time, we would have had 2 less wins if we faced a Shels and Fingal side playing to their potential. We're in a slightly false position.
12/05/2009, 11:28 PM
Schumi

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Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

You've still got Kiely, who I rate a good bit more than Cummins.

Kiely is their top scorer isn't he?
12/05/2009, 11:31 PM
DmanDmythDledge

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Originally Posted by Schumi

Kiely is their top scorer isn't he?

They both have 7 actually. Cummins got four against Monaghan, which slightly skews his tally.
13/05/2009, 9:54 AM
Raheny Red

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Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

We're in a slightly false position.

Have to disagree with you again. That display against us a few weeks back was the best I've seen since Shels were demoted. Judging by the outright betting Fingal are still being over rated by the bookies and they still don't thin UCD are up for the challenge. UCD have played 12 games so far 2 in the cup and 10 in the league, winning 11 and losing just one.
13/05/2009, 10:18 AM
pineapple stu

I'll have to agree with dman on this one, bizarrely. I still don't think we're good enough to go up. I definitely don't think we're good enough to stay up. We're dodgy in goals and, although the players are definitely improving (Boyle in particular), I think a team with a decent midfield (where we've really controlled most of our games) could easily put one or two past us. Shels, while we had 11 players, really should have had us out of sight. We were fortunate that we took our two chances in the first half; that's something we've only done against Shels and Fingal. Against Athlone for example, we missed about four open goals. If we continue to finish as laxly as the last few games, Waterford could easily punish us. If we respond to Waterford putting it up us (as, arguably, we did against Fungus and Shels), we could well win. I'm staying clear of that game personally.
13/05/2009, 11:30 AM
Sam_Heggy

Sligo, Limerick and Harps win, UCD - Waterford draw.

�10 returns - �382.83 with PP.
13/05/2009, 9:17 PM
brianw82

My choices this week:

St Patrick's Athletic -v- Sligo Rovers

I've already run through the reasons for this bet. 9-5 on us on the DNB market with Hills is just too good to pass up. Incidentally, this price has lowered to 5-4 now, so there's obviously a bit of money going onto this one. However, it is very speculative, which is why I'm only putting a fifth of this week's stake on it.

Sporting Fingal -v- Athlone Town

Fingal have stumbled just a little bit recently, and can consider themselves unlucky to come away from the Mervue game with only a point. They are 6 points behind UCD now, and they know they'll need to put another winning run together. Athlone are no great shakes, and should be disposed of easily enough. The only question mark is whether Fingal decide to mix up their team a bit with the league cup QF a few days later, but their squad should be good enough to cope.

Backing Sligo Rovers to win, Draw no bet (Will Hill) @ 9-5 - 0.5 pt
Backing Sporting Fingal to win (Bet365) @1-3 - 2.1 pts
14/05/2009, 8:15 AM
bennocelt

Some of ye guys are hilarious - i have no doubt at all that UCd will coast this league :)
15/05/2009, 11:28 AM
Raheny Red

UCD -V- Waterford United

It�s 1st versus 2nd in the First Division tonight with two sides that many expected to be 3rd and 4th at this stage of the season. With Shels and Fingal currently under performing both sides will be gunning for the 3 points here tonight. I�m going with a home win, unsurprisingly, as I have been highly impressed with the students. They have played 12 games in all competitions to date, winning 11 and losing just the once. The students have gone to both Shels and Fingal this season and have come away with maximum points. While on the other hand Waterford have hosted both Shels and Fingal and only managed in taken 1 point from the possible 6 on offer. It has to be said that WUFC are in great form at the moment. However, United haven�t come up against any decent opposition since their 1-0 home defeat to Shels - 7 weeks ago. The away side are also missing be their joint top scorer tonight. All the signs point to a home win for me.

UCD @ 2.25 (Boyles and Ladbrokes) - 2pts.
15/05/2009, 1:29 PM
Raheny Red

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Originally Posted by Raheny Red

UCD -V- Waterford United

It�s 1st versus 2nd in the First Division tonight with two sides that many expected to be 3rd and 4th at this stage of the season. With Shels and Fingal currently under performing both sides will be gunning for the 3 points here tonight. I�m going with a home win, unsurprisingly, as I have been highly impressed with the students. They have played 12 games in all competitions to date, winning 11 and losing just the once. The students have gone to both Shels and Fingal this season and have come away with maximum points. While on the other hand Waterford have hosted both Shels and Fingal and only managed in taken 1 point from the possible 6 on offer. It has to be said that WUFC are in great form at the moment. However, United haven�t come up against any decent opposition since their 1-0 home defeat to Shels - 7 weeks ago. The away side are also missing be their joint top scorer tonight. All the signs point to a home win for me.

UCD @ 2.25 (Boyles and Ladbrokes) - 2pts.

It's a betting minefield this weekend in the Premier Division. You've got
the Dublin and Louth Derbies, the Cork -V- Derry love in, the flopping Pats
and Sligo, and the Jekyll and Hyde performers of Galway and Bray. These 5
games could go either way. All of these games will be tight in what is, without
doubt, the toughest series of games from a betting perspective. With that
I'm just going to have a small fun bet on all games ending in a draw - trebles
and an accum with Bet 365.

Cork City v Derry City Draw 9/4

Drogheda United v Dundalk Draw 11/5

Galway United v Bray Wanderers Draw 12/5

St Patricks v Sligo Rovers Draw 21/10

Shamrock Rovers v Bohemians Draw 9/4
15/05/2009, 1:38 PM
eL Bettor

Good luck with the acca RR.

Will you be having a bet on Kildare v Shelbourne tomorrow?
15/05/2009, 2:17 PM
Raheny Red

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Originally Posted by eL Bettor

Good luck with the acca RR.

Will you be having a bet on Kildare v Shelbourne tomorrow?

Yeah have us to win both halves @ 11/8 - missed the 13/8 that was on offer earlier in the week. I'm not overly confident though.
15/05/2009, 8:49 PM
brianw82

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Originally Posted by brianw82

My choices this week:

St Patrick's Athletic -v- Sligo Rovers

I've already run through the reasons for this bet. 9-5 on us on the DNB market with Hills is just too good to pass up. Incidentally, this price has lowered to 5-4 now, so there's obviously a bit of money going onto this one. However, it is very speculative, which is why I'm only putting a fifth of this week's stake on it.

Sporting Fingal -v- Athlone Town

Fingal have stumbled just a little bit recently, and can consider themselves unlucky to come away from the Mervue game with only a point. They are 6 points behind UCD now, and they know they'll need to put another winning run together. Athlone are no great shakes, and should be disposed of easily enough. The only question mark is whether Fingal decide to mix up their team a bit with the league cup QF a few days later, but their squad should be good enough to cope.

Backing Sligo Rovers to win, Draw no bet (Will Hill) @ 9-5 - 0.5 pt
Backing Sporting Fingal to win (Bet365) @1-3 - 2.1 pts

Backing Sligo Rovers to win, Draw no bet (Will Hill) @ 9-5 - 0.5 pt - draw, money refunded
Backing Sporting Fingal to win (Bet365) @1-3 - 2.1 pts - :) sweet
15/05/2009, 9:13 PM
brianw82

Kildare County -v- Shelbourne

Despite saying earlier I wouldn't be touching this one, I've changed my mind due to tonight's results. Shels are now 5 points behind 3rd place with 2 games in hand. This has now become a must-win game, if it wasn't already. The Drumcondra outfit took a long time to get going against Longford and shipped 2 goals for it, but once they got a goal, Longford could no longer keep out the kitchen sink. Daire Doyle and Richie Baker certainly made differences when they came on, but I don't know if they will start. The return of Doherty to the defence should help them too. The players will be eager to put things right after last week, and I think they should win by 3 or 4.

Backing Shelbourne to win, -1 goal handicap (Bet365) @8-13 - 2.5 pts
16/05/2009, 12:51 AM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by Raheny Red

UCD -V- Waterford United
UCD @ 2.25 (Boyles and Ladbrokes) - 2pts. [/B]

Told you not to bet on us. ;)

Waterford were by a distance the best team I've seen us play so far this season.
16/05/2009, 1:17 AM
brianw82

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Told you not to bet on us. ;)

Waterford were by a distance the best team I've seen us play so far this season.

Raheny isn't doing so good so far this season. He needs to get himself into a Nutrigrain ad.

"You were kicking ass in the Betting League thread! Where's that guy gone?!"
16/05/2009, 9:28 AM
bennocelt

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Told you not to bet on us. ;)

Waterford were by a distance the best team I've seen us play so far this season.

still top though:p
16/05/2009, 9:52 AM
Raheny Red

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Originally Posted by brianw82

Daire Doyle and Richie Baker certainly made differences when they came on, but I don't know if they will start.

They are starting unfortunately. We're missing our entire midfield.

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Originally Posted by brianw82

Raheny isn't doing so good so far this season. He needs to get himself into a Nutrigrain ad.

"You were kicking ass in the Betting League thread! Where's that guy gone?!"

Doing ****e alright!

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Told you not to bet on us. ;)

Waterford were by a distance the best team I've seen us play so far this season.

True enough but you will still get promoted. WUFC were one of the worst sides I've seen this season btw.
16/05/2009, 10:33 AM
Longfordian

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Originally Posted by Raheny Red

They are starting unfortunately. We're missing our entire midfield.

Daire Doyle that used to play for us?. I thought he was with Bray?.
16/05/2009, 12:16 PM
Raheny Red

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Originally Posted by Longfordian

Daire Doyle that used to play for us?. I thought he was with Bray?.

Think he is getting them mixed up. Derek Doyle plays for us.
16/05/2009, 4:28 PM
Sam_Heggy

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Originally Posted by Sam_Heggy

Sligo, Limerick and Harps win, UCD - Waterford draw.

�10 returns - �382.83 with PP.

Ah man, one of the few times I want Sligo to win :(
16/05/2009, 5:22 PM
brianw82

Sorry, it was Derek Doyle I was thinking of. How dare there be 2 D.Doyles in the league!
17/05/2009, 9:51 AM
Raheny Red

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Originally Posted by Raheny Red

UCD @ 2.25 (Boyles and Ladbrokes) - 2pts.

UCD couldn't manage the win but I'd say both sides would have taken the 0-0 before the game. Hopefully UCD can do the bizo in their next game in the cup. Semi final place on offer and then that 50/1 would be looking very tasty :cool:

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Originally Posted by Raheny Red

With that
I'm just going to have a small fun bet on all games ending in a draw - trebles
and an accum with Bet 365.

Cork City v Derry City Draw 9/4
Drogheda United v Dundalk Draw 11/5
Galway United v Bray Wanderers Draw 12/5
St Patricks v Sligo Rovers Draw 21/10
Shamrock Rovers v Bohemians Draw 9/4

Poxy Twigg had to go spoil it all and grab a second!

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Originally Posted by Raheny Red

Yeah have us to win both halves @ 11/8 - missed the 13/8 that was on offer earlier in the week. I'm not overly confident though.

Happy days, thankfully we just nicked one at the end of the half which ensured profit for the weekend. Kildare are bad but not that bad. I'd be weary of backing against them next week at Harps.
17/05/2009, 9:15 PM
eL Bettor

Were you at the game Raheny?

Were Kildare up to time wasting tactics while the game was still 0-0?

Also on the odd time that they send a few men forward were they very very slow to track back when posession was lost, indicating a very poor level of fitness?

Were there some shockingly bad passes, terrible wastefulness when they get a corner (if they got any), and the failure to win almost any 50/50 contests in the air?

These were all evident against Waterford. I'm hoping we get a decent price on Harps to beat them next week.
17/05/2009, 9:56 PM
Raheny Red

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Originally Posted by eL Bettor

Were you at the game Raheny?

Were Kildare up to time wasting tactics while the game was still 0-0?

Also on the odd time that they send a few men forward were they very very slow to track back when posession was lost, indicating a very poor level of fitness?

Were there some shockingly bad passes, terrible wastefulness when they get a corner (if they got any), and the failure to win almost any 50/50 contests in the air?

These were all evident against Waterford. I'm hoping we get a decent price on Harps to beat them next week.

Yeah was at the game alright, we were ****e - they were worse. There was no time wasting at all in the game. They are nowhere near full fitness, basically a team of Richie Bakers. They are awful at defending corners, they lack concentration and leadership. Halfway through the first half they should have taken the lead :eek: - their striker missed a one on one chance which should have been converted.

Judging by Harps fans on here I wouldn't be going near Harps!
31/10/2009, 11:47 PM
bennocelt

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Originally Posted by bennocelt

Some of ye guys are hilarious - i have no doubt at all that UCd will coast this league :)

mmmmm as i said previously:):)

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