Guys does anyone have list a list of the games he has had so far ??
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Guys does anyone have list a list of the games he has had so far ??
I took a sconse but couldn't find anything. That FAI website is brutal, surely that kind of information should be available there.
Soccerscene.ie has a list of results
http://soccerscene.ie/ss21/matches.php
I think Sean McCaffrey may have managed a couple of games during Givens tenure.
he asked for a list not a stupid commentQuote:
Originally Posted by Ciaran
The stats mightn't prove anything. At one stage they were on a record unbeaten run of 12 or 13 games when the likes of Elliott and Paddy McCarthy were in the team. Since that run ended we've been brutal though.
Can it easily be said that he is the worst U21 manager in the history of Irish football? I think it could be but i wouldn't want to do the guy an injustice. A list of his record would make interesting reading.
I dont think Maurice Setters had a great record as a U21 manager either. It doesnt seem to be a job that the FAI take seriously. I would love us to employ an up and coming young manager that has ambitions to one day be the senior manager, something like England have done with Stuart Pearse. Someone like Kenny Cunningham if he had ambitions to be a manager would be ideal in my opinionQuote:
Originally Posted by A face
Jason McAteer is doing his coaching badges...
I'm just saying, is all...
Agreed, giving the job to Givens first day and then leaving him in the position when Ireland and his mother could see he was brutal are two reasons that confirm that point as well. Just a job for the boys it seems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
If he had us controlling games like the 2 against England last year then I wouldn't care too much about results. It's the rubbish performances like the one in Montenegro that's the problem.
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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Jason and Roy - Dream Team??
The guy is a complete and utter disaster and adds nothing to the game. Its pure and simple 'a job for one of the boys'. We are cursed that he even went near the job.Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
NIce of him to leave out Scott Davies is doing great stuff at Aldershot ( 8 goals )
Scott Davies has been called into the U21 squad and travelled to Cork today (not sure who he has replaced). Hope he gets a run, he's a class player.Quote:
Originally Posted by bwagner
I hear Steve Staunton is unemployed at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
wouldnt it have been better to test him out as u21 manager first rather than making the Seniors his first job in managementQuote:
Originally Posted by John83
If they'd thought about that route, they'd probably have promoted Don Givens to the senior job at the time. Count your blessings. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Point taken:D:DQuote:
Originally Posted by John83
I just got a text from a mate saying that Don Givens has told Keith Treacy that he will never play for him again. Im out of the country and I cant find anything online about it so just wondering what the source is and what the reasons are? How many young players does this fella have to fall out with before the FAI realise he is a dinosaur and cant deal with young lads today
Here Here!Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Theres a few players in the Championship sufering because of similar uncalled for vendettas.
When will this idiot realise that it's the players clubs who don't allow or want their players to play in certain game and at key stages of the season.
He's becoming a law unto himself! :mad:
Thought they already had!Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
Givens strikes again....Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
http://www.eleven-a-side.com/acrosst...ws.asp?n=36221
The man is clearly an arse, how he's still in a job is utterly beyond me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paddy Garcia
Treacy told the Irish Daily Star: “There were crossed wires somewhere along the line and I’ve been made out here as a bad boy. I rang Don when the squad for [February’s] Germany game came out and apologised about the whole situation.
“That wasn’t good enough for him – he told me he’d never play in his team again and put the phone down on me.
“I’m finding this very hard to take. Playing for my country means everything for me and I’ve been doing it since I was 14.”
So thats Tracey, McCann, Stokes, Ireland.
Im sure there is more. Maybe its actually Givens that has the problem and not all these youngsters. His man management is a bloody shambles and that alone should be a sackable offence. Im not even going to go into his results.
The guy sounds like a nutcase.
Add St Ledger to that list too!Quote:
Originally Posted by carloz
There was also such a "misunderstanding" with David Connolly when Givens was caretaker boss after McCarthy left (against Greece i think). So he hasn't just had problems with the youngsters. Connolly would have been about 25 then.Quote:
Originally Posted by carloz
Come to think of it that was 6 and a half years ago. Is he going to be U-21 boss until his retirement?:eek:
He's 59 now so another 6 years of this sh!te?
I just had a look at his career on his wiki page and you would have to say that it looked like a good appointment at the time, with his Arsenal youth academy experience, but he has been anything but good over the last 8 to 9 years.
Ah for Christ sake that is beyond a joke. The mans jobs to develope young players in this country and he seems to be better at just alienating them.It really is a serious situation and it needs to stopQuote:
Originally Posted by Paddy Garcia
It's really too bad that Ireland playing legends like Stan and Givens have ruined their reputations by being horrible managers- I just wish Stan had admitted that he wasn't up to it after the bad start, or that Givens would have walked away by now.
The U-21 team is a springboard for the senior team, and its importance should not be underestimated.
Ritchie Foran to back in the day
Don Givens would cause a riot in a creche ! !
He's gonna live off of tonights result for the next 2 years!Quote:
Originally Posted by carloz
Was flicking between this and the Munster - Warriors game tonight.
Atrocious conditions, but still a good (if slightly undeserved) win over a technically sound Spanish side. The result is slightly more impressive considering the players that were missing - McCarthy, Treacy(sigh), Scannell, and I'm pretty sure Stokes is still eligible.
The opening goal from O'Shea was extremely fortunate, the Spanish keeper punched clear the ball from a free kick. Unfortunately it hit the defender standing in front of him and O'Shea hit it with his knee to force the ball home. The second goal was far superior, with O'Shea involved again. The West Ham target beat 2 men on the near side, before chipping the full back to release the speedy Sheridan. A quick, low cross from the Celtic striker was dummied by Garvan for Judge to smash home, for a two goal cushion.
The Spanish got one back from a cleared corner, a long shot into a crowded area rebounded to their striker who finished from close range, despite calls for offside.
It could have been more, as Garvan had a shot from the half way line that only just cleared the crossbar. A bizarre own goal was narrowly averted for the Spanish when, following a save low down from the keeper, the full back decided to hammer the ball back to him only for the Spanish number one to react and clear the ball with an outstretched leg.
Waterford's Eddie Nolan got the home town decision for the MOTM, although I thought O'Shea was the other main candidate.
A fine win, and sets the group of players up for Tuesday's qualifer with the Turks.
He was definately MOTM! He had a great game. O'Shea was good in flashes too though.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
There were scouts there from Chelsea, West Ham and Man Utd (Fergie's brother)....all looking at O'Shea afaik.
Didn't Don Givern have a bust up with one Stephen Ireland?
Fair enough, like I said, I was flicking between it and the Munster game, just everything positive seemed to go through O'Shea. Nolan was definitely far superior to his partner in central defence, Dennehy.
Didn't think much of Meyler or Gleeson either tbh, both gave away possession needlessly a few times.
Aye I don't think he'll be at Galway United after this Summer although you never know. We should get a decent price for him though hopefully.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue-Army
Not exactly. Again as caretaker boss for a friendly against Brazil Givens was asked about Ireland and he said he wouldn't pick him because it was up to him to make the first move.Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
Think that was Brian Kerr...Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
Givens didn't have a bust up with him, but when he picked the squad for the Brazil game he said he wouldn't pick Ireland unless he contacted Givens first.