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I was listening to the press conference from Abbotstown to name the Georgia squad and was appalled to hear Liam Brady bark at a journalist (don't know what journo!) to "have a bit of respect for your country"!!!....
Is Brady for real??...who dos he think he is spouting such rubbish....the same bucko looked alittle worse for wear when the camera zoomed in on him, perhaps a few early bights may help get rid of those black eyes you are sporting Liam........:D
Well it wouldn't be the first time anyway
Edit: Gonna move this to the Ireland Section
"Gonna move this to the Ireland Section"
If you had better sense you would have either corrected the content in the first post or moved the thread into the rubbish.
What an idiotic thread.
what did the journo ask ?
is this thread a joke ??
It doesn't say, its just Brady going off the handle again. He is always at it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Duggie
Sounds like he was dead right. I think they were pushing the Ireland agenda again after Trap had answered it and Brady was just letthing him know that the story is finished until Stephen Ireland calls them.
which is the way it should be for now.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
It was Brady making a comment about Stephen Ireland. He was answering a journalist's question.Quote:
Originally Posted by A face
A far cry away from your swallowing of the line that he was barking at a journalist to "have a bit of respect for your country"
never mind the silly link to olden days when Liam was slim and had hair.
I think its crass and idiotioc to say that "all he has to do is call us". Another public declaration that its all down to Ireland makes it more likely that this will never be resolved. I am not interested in the morality of this and quite frankly niether should the management. Their job is to put the best team on the pitch and if that means finding a more subtle way round Ireland's idiosyncratic psychology then that is what they should be doing. The recent media signals from his father and the Indo article reminded me of the alleged Provo message to the UK Government "THe war is over, but we need your help in ending it." I am afraid that Trapp and Brady's response was the equivalent of "just hand in all your weapons, recognise the union and fax us to tell us when you have done it." Its quite legitimate for journalists to ask questions about why our best player is not in the squad.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
i really wish brady wasnt involved with the irish team, he'll always be a legend, but he seems to love conflict
He has been asked, how many more times should he be asked, once a day, once a week, every second week, every month, should we beg him , let him pick the rest of the team?, get everybody to shave their head?, get the rest of the team to write an essay on why Stephen Ireland is greatQuote:
Originally Posted by third policeman
Best team not necessarily the best playersQuote:
Originally Posted by third policeman
The alledged Provo message was spin by the Major government after the news broke that it had been talking to the Provos for ages - it is about as beliveable as Stephen Ireland desire to play again for his country.Quote:
Originally Posted by third policeman
I dont now what is more depressing the fact that a talented player doesnt wish to play for his country or the fact that so many fans appear to want to compromise any remaining dignity that we as a footballing nation has by quite literally begging a player to play for us. - Fucck him
totally agree. SI started the exile so only he can finish it. if he really wanted to play all he needs to do is to make a 1 min phone call to let management know. until he does that he cant be in a squadQuote:
Originally Posted by Newryrep
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Originally Posted by Newryrep
Herein lies the problem. It's not about compromising, or sacrifing your dignity, its about being equiped with basic PR, diplomatic and problem-solving skills. It's the fact that our management appears to see this in the same simple and emotive terms as the fans that is truly depressing.
To all those who are disagreeing with the strategy- what is your alternative?
He has been asked to come back, he said he needed time. They can't keep asking him. He knows that they want him to come back, therefore it is up to him to pick up the phone.
No one is saying that he has to apologise, wear a sackcloth and ashes or the like. He has to make himself available.
Cant understand why Brady and Trap are getting sick from some people about this, in my opinion they could not have done anymore.
With Roy Keane was exiled I dont think the media attention was as bad as this and imo Keane was 100 times more important to the team than Ireland would be.
Some people are making out that Ireland would be our messiah, he's a very good player no doubt. But would he really make that much of a difference to our side, imo he is not the type of player we lack and it could be argued that he would be a luxury in our team that we might not be able to afford.
The journalist said that Ireland should have been named in the squad regardless of whether he called or not. That is what Brady reacted to and he was dead right. He said to him, have some pride in your country. Tony O D in my opinion wrongly reported that on the news as Brady saying to Ireland have some pride in your country. But it was to the journalist he said it as far as I could see.
TP no offence that sounds like bull**** management speak that David Brent would come out with -please provide concrete proposals for an alternative strategy.Quote:
Originally Posted by third policeman
send him a card every day -
'Thinking of you' ,
' wish you were here'
'hope your feeling better'
I for one hope he never pulls on a green jersey again
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Originally Posted by Maribor
Couldn't have put it better myself Maribor.
Off course, i would rather see him in the team but as he does wish to make himself available for the squad, we move on without him.
Just saw that on Sky news, it was not clear what the journo was asking but
Brady was just making it clear that it was agreed S Ireland would contact them and he has not, so whatever the twit was asking was rather pointless,
he wanted to talk about the squad named and quite rightly so.
No problems with brady on that whatsoever.
Liam Brady was right on this, its the players that want to play that are important.Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
i was at the press conference and he said it to the journo, clear as day..Tony O'D was wrong in his report.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
I thought it was fairly clear that Brady was talking about Ireland when he said that.
It makes no sense for him to say it about the journo
It would'nt be the first time Tony O'D got it wrong. What is it with irish Journalists.Quote:
Originally Posted by citizenerased
From the interview it does, it seems that the journalist was saying that we should just call up Ireland and basically beg him to play for us. So Brady said to the journalist have some pride in your country.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mento
According to Vincent Hogan and its pretty much what I saw too.
Sitting to Trapattoni's left, Liam Brady became decidedly *****ly at the persistent search for blossoms in a mine shaft. A journalist wondered were they not inclined to simply phone the player again?
"We just said that we agreed with Stephen Ireland that he would make contact when he was ready," snapped the Irish assistant.
Clear
"Is that not clear? We agreed that he was to contact us if he wanted to come back. Okay? Have bit of respect for your country!"
It was, frankly, the nearest we got to an appropriate tone. Short of throwing blossoms at the player's feet and singing lullabies, all avenues of reconciliation have surely been exhausted.
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Originally Posted by NeilMcD
I was at the press conf. Personally I thought he had Ireland in his mind when he said it
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Originally Posted by Mento
if the wording NeilMcD has quoted in his post is correct, then i cant see how it could refer to Ireland and id say it is almost certainly directed at the journalist.
I definitely think it was aimed at the journalist. Brady was pointing out that we shouldn't have to get down on our knees to him to come back.
I have to say that this thing should be nipped in the bud. Either sort it out or rule him out. Otherwise it may prove unsettling for the squad. They need to be focused on what matters.
He will come back. Ruling him out is crazy. Send SOMEONE to see him, doesn't have to be anyone "high ranking", confirm to him that he WILL be welcome back in to the squad if he makes it known that he has gotten over his sulking or whatever and does want to play. We could certainly do with him............................................... .................................................. ........and Reid!Quote:
Originally Posted by Docboy
that is what a reasonable assessment would be. just people seeking scandal where there is noneQuote:
Originally Posted by Docboy
doubt itQuote:
Originally Posted by Scram
He hasnt told the management team he is ready to come backQuote:
Originally Posted by Scram
Tony Soprano ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Scram
would this occur before or after this visitQuote:
Originally Posted by Scram
He doesnt want to play for us - its called unrequited love.
Sometimes people can be very very frustrating. Surely at this point everyone would agree that the next course of action would be for the matter to be put to rest until S.Ireland call Trap and tells him that he is ready to play.
Any idea that Trap&co should be calling Ireland regularly to see if he is up to coming back is just plane lunacy not to mention harassment. Ireland called time on his career, its up to him to restart it.
Either way that journalist is an idiot, and if Trap had simply called S. Ireland up into the squad without any direct contact indicating he was ready to return, then I bet that same journalist and those calling for Irelands return would be crying murder about how its not fair to put S.Ireland under that type of pressure.
Brady refused to answer questions regarding Andy Reid's non inclusion in this and other squads. And yet he decided to inject himself into the Stephen Ireland debate. Very selective of "chippy".
Totally disagree, he interjected through exasperation and has always had the attitude (which was repeated on Monday) that he wants to concentrate on the players actually in the squad which would be entirely in line with 'policy' you say he has of not answering questions about Reid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
On the other point being debated, it seemed obvious to me he was talking to the journalist regarding respect and the fact that it's been twisted in some rags to suggest he may have meant Stephen Ireland is representative of the pure tabloidification of a large section of our print media (which it's by far the worse for).
so what? are the same questions to be answered by the same people again and again?Quote:
Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar