Any news on this? Is it happening and when will the draw be made, usually they have a date for the draw by this time of year
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Any news on this? Is it happening and when will the draw be made, usually they have a date for the draw by this time of year
I think it's happening . Not sure about draw dates.
It's happening afaik. Games will be played on weekends, every 4th weekend iirc.
Yep. 9 teams this year with 3 groups of 3, everyone plays home and away. The changes were announced a couple of months back.
Far as I remember, it's the 3 group winners and best runner up go into the semis then.
There'll be 5 LOI teams and 4 NI teams because we got the holder's spot.
Bohemians
Cork City (qualifying for the 5th successive year ;) )
Derry City
St Pats
And I presume Sligo Rovers? Not sure on who the last team is.
EDIT: here ya go: http://www.eircomloi.ie/news-centre/...ugust/news-55/
yep its us, although it says on that link there'll be a playoff between a LOI and IL team, does this applying for the 09 tournament?Quote:
Originally Posted by adamd164
No, it says that if the holders have already qualified there's a playoff for the other spot. Since we didn't finish in top 2 or reach cup final then I assume ye will get it automatically through finishing 4th, with the 3 above ye already qualified. That seems fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rovers1
No doubt with three team groups that will mean Linfield, Glens and Derry in together yet again. Preferred group for me would be Linfield, Bohs and Cork. Have always wanted the trip to Cork and would be great to get the chance to return the great hospitality that Bohs have shown us on our trips to Dublin.
Ideal draw for Derry would be Coleraine and Sligo in the one group not much travelling thenQuote:
Originally Posted by David
Setanta Cup finally comes of age as Bohemian FC gets to play ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by David
Would love to get Linfield also.
Mad system - 3 groups to go into semi- finals?!
Presumably there will be two groups with 2 LoI/1 IL and one group with 2 IL/ 1 LoI - which means we could get the tranfixing possibility of Sligo and Dungannon or something......
About time you lot joined the party. :p Seriously though was delighted to see you make it at last and would love to be drawn against you. Have a feeling though that security would then try and stop us going to the Dalymount social club.Quote:
Originally Posted by BohDiddley
I'd assume that LOI and IL winners are seeded. Probably with Cork as holders.
Where did you hear that weekend thing sligoman?
Who are the 4 IL teams?
I would second that.Quote:
Originally Posted by David
The hospitality afforded by Bohs to Blues fans has been fantastic.
Linfield, Glentoran, Cliftonville and Coleraine - I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonofstan
Given the Garda's preposterous claim we take more to police than the whole of Croke Park, I'd say the chances of that happening would be slim all right. But it would be a great night in Dalymount nevertheless.Quote:
Originally Posted by David
If champions are seeded we're not going to get Linfield, right?
John Delaney said it at Rovers end of season function.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
If John Delaney told me I had two legs I'd still look down to check.Quote:
Originally Posted by sligoman
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Originally Posted by brianw82
potm. :D
I suggest you watch more comedy.Quote:
Originally Posted by sligofan4ever
Just have to do it before the Final then...Quote:
Originally Posted by sonofstan
I have heard that the 2009 competition does not start until August.
Fed up of Linfield and Glentoran, would prefer Cliftonville and Bohs this time around.
Do you think the 'normality' of the competition is working.Quote:
Originally Posted by dortie
One of the hoped-for medium term benefits of the tournament.
Christ August! is that because Linfield players are still on holiday until just before then, and after their Youth team have been knocked out of europe again in the first round while our teams are still in the competition: Crap decision againQuote:
Originally Posted by David
Disaster if its true and IL clubs will get whipped, LOI will destroy them.Quote:
Originally Posted by David
Well they bitched when the competition started in March when the LOI season started, saying the LOI teams would be alot fresher. They bitched when it was divided so that 3 games are played when the LOI starts in March and the IL starts in April, now its changed again so they are played when IL season stats. Dont see any bitching from LOI clubs.Quote:
Originally Posted by A face
It's 'rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic' stuff people.
IL teams will still be outclassed in the Setanta, with the honourable exception of at most one team every year, no matter when it's played. Becaiuse there is a gulf in standards.
Though it will be interesting to see if the financial problems in the EL cause that gap to narrow at all in the coming seasons.
I would think that it'll be more competitive this year, due to that fact.Quote:
Though it will be interesting to see if the financial problems in the EL cause that gap to narrow at all in the coming seasons.
We hear this......... and then there is another LoI - IL Final. So we don't hear it, until we hear it again.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
Well if you'd heard the bit about there being one good IL team every year - which is all there has been to-date - rather than just hear the bit you wanted to hear, then you'd have heard enough for us not to need to hear the above again.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarpoJoyce
D'ya hear me....?
:D
I understand your point better. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
So speaking slowly and loudly at foreigners DOES work after all.....!?!Quote:
Originally Posted by HarpoJoyce
:p
Blues
C'raine
Sligo
Bohs
Glens
Pats
Derry
Cork
Reds
That would do. Ta. :)
From today's (well, yesterday's at this stage) Irish Sun:Quote:
Originally Posted by David
EXCLUSIVE NEIL O'RIORDAN
THE Setanta Sports Cup has been shelved until autumn, SunSport has learned.
The competition's organisers are awaiting approval from sponsors Setanta for the opening games to take place at the end of August with the final in May 2010.
That will be a full EIGHTEEN MONTHS after the most recent decider, which saw Cork City defeat Glentoran at Turner's Cross.
And it will mean Irish League clubs will be kicking off a competition which they qualified for at least 15 months previously -as its representatives gain entry from their exploits in the 2007/08 season.
It had already been decided that the number of participating clubs would be increased to nine, with Bohemians and Coleraine competing for the first time.
It is now being proposed that the semi-finals will be played on a home and away basis.
It is yet another revamp for the tournament which began in 2005, 25 years after the most recent cross-border competition was staged.
But Milo Corcoran, chairman of the Setanta Sports Cup organising committee, insists the latest changes will enhance rather than damage its reputation.
Corcoran said: "We have submitted provisional dates to Setanta for their approval and we are expecting them to come back to us before the end of the month.
We are looking to run it between August of this year and May 2010.
"We figure that this will be suitable for both the FAI and IFA clubs.
We think the format is a good one because in our submission we have suggested some weekend dates to give it a bigger profile.
In previous years, the schedule has been a bit rushed and there was no leeway to refix games but there would be a little more room for manoeuvre this way."
The competition is likely to be split in two so it is not played in the League of Ireland close-season between November and March.
With the League of Ireland operating off a summer season and the Irish League played over a traditional winter season, scheduling has been a problem from the start.
Northern clubs were seen to have an advantage in the opening games as their southern counterparts did not have any competitive action under their belts.
But by the time it reached the knockout stages, it was seen as interfering with the Irish League season climax.
The organisers moved to ease fixture congestion last year with the competition broken up between spring and autumn, but it was felt that the five-month gap in between meant it lost its momentum.
And the Glens were furious that Cork had home advantage for the decider.
While the final venue alternates between the two associations where possible, the east Belfast club could not understand why a Dublin stadium was not used. Their annoyance was worsened by the fact that the St Anne's Road end of Turner's Cross could not be used because of a delay in the construction of a roof.
That left hundreds of Glentoran fans unable to attend, prompting club chairman Aubry Ralph to call for Corcoran and fellow committee member Michael Hayes to resign.
Both Glentoran and Linfield threatened to withdraw from the competition if their concerns were not listened to.
Since then, Ralph has replaced Portadown director Bobby Jameson as the Irish League's representative on the committee.
CLUBS PARTICIPATING IN 2009/10 SETANTA SPORTS CUP: Cork City (holders); Bohemians (League of Ireland champions); St Patrick's Athletic (League of Ireland runners-up); Derry City (League of Ireland third-placed side); Sligo Rovers (League of Ireland fourth-placed side (as FAI Cup finalists Bohs and Derry had already qualified); Linfield (Irish League champions); Glentoran (Irish League runners-up); Cliftonville (Irish League third-placed team); Coleraine (Irish Cup runners-up).
n.o'riordan@the-sun.ie
What a joke...
It looks to me like the Setanta Cup is going the way of all previous cross border competitions. Now that the BBC have got F1 it might be time for me to get rid of Setanta for a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rory H
Setanta F1 coverage is terrible.. ITV was much better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heliodorus
be surprised if It goes ahead...