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PFAI: 'believe agreement can be reached to have the club in the Premier Division next year.'
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PFAI: 'believe agreement can be reached to have the club in the Premier Division next year.'
Good news for Drogs ! I think the FAI would be happy to see them remain in the premier as well. Good luck with the fund raising Drogs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
While that's a very positive outcome to the offer made to the players surely the biggest factor affecting DUFC's ability to play premier football next season [assuming they emerge successfully from examinership] is United Park not fulfilling the requirements of licensing, can they really afford to go renting an alternative ground or redeveloping UP?
By the way, the relationship between DUFC and the PFAI versus the one CCFC have is interesting.
I don't see the ground being a big problem in the short term. After all, they let us play in it in Finn Park (albeit with a new ground on the way).
But wasn't United Park given a derogation for the same reason, that a new stadium was planned. Those plans are no longer realisitic. Oriel maybe?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
But a new ground is still planned...
But where for though?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Same place. its in one of the appeal stages isn't it (I'm not talking about it being viable either)
How in the name of God above could Drogheda United possibly get a Licence??
Forget about them being in Examinership, forget about the unpaid players and the debts. United Park does not qualify for a licence and its not just a matter of sticking in a few more seats. There are fundamental problems with the ground which can't be addressed.
United got a dispensation last season because there were plans to move to a new ground. Those plans are now dead and buried and with them should be the possibility of the club getting a Premier Licence.
Now, if the club get out of examinership, I am fairly sure we'll hear the same old, same old!!
"The diggers and bulldozers are ready, the finance has been sourced, the plans are there, all we need is planning permission"
The thing is will the FAI fall for it again or do the right thing by Shelbourne FC. I feel another large helping of fudge coming up.
Jesus boo hoo ya moany git .youd swear you didnt wanna see us in the premier next season :DQuote:
Originally Posted by SMorgan
You will notice I suggest that Shels should replace you lot. Why, exactly would I fear Drogheda more than Shels?:confused:
Whats it got to do with Shels? If Drigheda don't get a license, the place will go to harps, Cobh and UCD before thenQuote:
Originally Posted by SMorgan
Okay, fair point.
Just get Drogheda United out the hell:cool:
I couldnt agree more.Quote:
Originally Posted by SMorgan
How the hell can the PFAI back Drogheda? How are Cork allowed sign players? Why is there no clear ruling on the deadling for payment of wages?
Shels were relegated and rightly so but it is obvious that the rela reason behind our relegation was the total hatred and contempt people held for Ollie Byrne.
And for the record I do not agree that Shels should take the place of Drogheda/Cork IF they are relegated. If such a situtation arises then it has to go to Harps, Cobh or UCD
31st of January. Why the confusion?Quote:
Originally Posted by McShels
GTF!!! Seriously, you're talking absolute ****e if you think Shels had any case. IN reality the FAI treated shels very lightly (as witnessed by the resignation of the licensing chairman)Quote:
Shels were relegated and rightly so but it is obvious that the rela reason behind our relegation was the total hatred and contempt people held for Ollie Byrne.
Fair play to Drogheda and all their people who have dug in.When the chips were down, the natives were not found wanting---to date... A big push is required to get them safely over the finishing line and secure their future.
Hopefully the players will accept a fair offer and move on with their lives and that every other club within the League can learn from this whole sorry episode for the good of football in Ireland.....:ball:
And exactly what, if anything, have Cork and Drogs done different to us? We reneged on wages. So did they. One rule for us and another for them. The FAI is particpating in a massive fudge along with their crony McGuinness. Drogs and Cork should be relegated. Just like we rightly were.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
There is absolutely no way that Drogheda United should be allowed continue in the Premier next season.
If they haven't paid the money back, they absolutely should be, at least, relegated.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeixlipRed
Media speculation aside, there's no suggestion that anythign different will happen. Remember all the furore here when Drogs hadn't been given their 10 point deduction straight away. loads of talk about bias there. Then they got the 10 points deducted
Absolutely no point in people being furious before anything happens
You're probably right, but I fail to see how the PFAI are representing those players that have been left unpaid, by coming out and defending the club like that.
In fairness he didn't defend the club. He said he hoped that there were 22 jobs available to pro footballers next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by CSFShels
Which should be in the First Division.
Who knows, they're certainly going head to head with CCFC. I'd imagine the reason is that as a union, they've canvassed the affected members (DUFC players) and those members have directed them to respond positively.Quote:
Originally Posted by McShels
There's no rule against us signing players.Quote:
Originally Posted by McShels
Because the FAI rulebook is a joke, nothing to do with any club who tries to adhere to the mess that it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by McShels
In your eyes (and those of LeixlipRed) you were rightly relegated, but those who rightly relegated you based their decision on hated of OB? Nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by McShels
i'm not gonna get involved with the shels issue here, or the cork one, but concentrate on the drogheda one for the moment. this is the best bit of news we've had in ages. i personally spoke with a few of the players over the last few days and not only are they willing to come to an agreement, many of them want to stay with drogheda next season on a part time basis. the chairman vincent is the main reason for this. many of the players feel great loyalty to this club and man for everything they did get over the good times. now if players are willing not to accept wages owed surely its case closed. the club cannot be accused of withholding/not making payments if the players agree not to take the payments. the fans here have done a hell of a job so far in saving the club and we believe that united park WILL get a licence. It will limit capacity for fire safety reasons but it is not the worst stadium in the premier.
a few days ago even we were only hopeful that we'd have a club. but things are beginning to look up.......despite the craptonian begruggers
I'd imagine it is case closed.Quote:
Originally Posted by diamond
Plus it may enable your making a better offer to the unsecured creditors and the Revenue by virtue of the money saved.
If they don't pay Sligo Rovers the money they owe for Faz they shouldn't be allowed in the Premier Division
You're a creditor, you'll get the same % as the other unsecured creditors.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knappagh Red
If they haven't paid for him I don't see why they should hold his registration though, Sligo should be challenging this and expecting him for pre-season training.
But under licensing I think you have to have paid or settled transfer fees as well as wages.
If, as an unsecured creditor, you agree to accept the % that DUFC will offer, then payment of that % will settle the transfer fee. That'd be my understanding of it, I don't think the High Court would allow you status as a preferential creditor over the revenue or the others DUFC owe money to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
The high court doesn't have any bearing on FAAI club licensing though
Exactly, all debts with other clubs must be settled. Sligo of course should never have released him unless the cash was paid in full upfront!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
I think the chances of Drogs being let into the Premier next year are somewhere between 0-5%. Even if they manage to scrap out of examinership, surely the first division would be the best place for them to regroup after overstretching themselves for years!
bhs
a club must have no payables due to players, clubs ,revenue and no tranfers payables due so on that basis in will be in default. but on the whole issue of where drogs will be next season if licensing award them a premier licence then it will be exposed as a farce and will lose any remaining credibility assuming it still has any.
BHS i have a fundamental problem with this firstly i do not wish any ill will to drogs but why should the first div be seen as a place of punishment if you are not licensing compliant but the clubs already there must be fully compliantQuote:
Originally Posted by blackholesun
But they needed to slash their wage bill at the time too.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackholesun
Because (in my opinion anyway) licencing should never kick a team out of the league and out of existence. The worst punishment under it should be demotion to the lowest level of senior football (which is now the A League), regardless of how screwed up you are. And you don't get let up out of that until you're compliant.Quote:
Originally Posted by passerrby
The main point is that they CAN'T stay in the Premier as they still owed players money after 30th of November. Regardless if they now come to a settlement.
Why do you think the PFAI are being soooo sweet all of a sudden? 200K raised in a month that is why. I think McGuinness is playing them to ensure they get as much as they can for the players.
I agree fully with the last two posters. Really can't see them retain their Premier place.
If for some reason the FAI decide in their infinite wisdom to allow Drogheda stay in the Premier, I would expect legal action from the likes of Harps and Cobh who have both had their players paid by the deadline.
Problem with that is (a) under the new league agreement, clubs aren't allowed take legal action against the league and (b) even if they did anyway, they couldn't afford it.Quote:
Originally Posted by cheech
If Drogheda United get a Premier Licence then the FAI may stop pretending that there are any regulations in place regarding participation in the Premier League. If Drogheda get a Licence then the whole licensing system is a complete joke.
Somebody came out with the statement that United Park is not the worst in the Premier League. It is the worst, by a country mile. Not enough seats, the pitch is too small, the distance between the boundary walls and the pitch are substandard and a whole host of other issues relating to access, lighting, event control, health & safety and security.
Is the FAI going to demand a minimum requirement or not?
Now the FAI let Drogheda away on the basis that they were lead to believe that there would be a new ground. Now let us see the basis on which they'll be allowed to stay in the Premier.
I think the obvious solution to this issue is to relegate Dundalk to the A league.
Except for Fabio.. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by diamond
yeah...have fun paying the mercenary to sit in the stands after he gets a "sex injury" like he did for us!
keep on topic please or this thread will end like many others lately ruined by craptown fans talking crap