Squad for Poland game

Who would ye like to see getting a chance against Poland. Obviously midfield will be the one area that experimentation will have to happen. Trap certainly won't be going too wild though. I'll get the ball rolling:

James McCarthy: Trap said he would cap him if it meant staving off the overtures of Scotland. But with McCarthy having so strongly reiterated his desire to play with the Republic I don't think he will be called in now. Personally I would love to see him called in. He hasn't looked out of place this season against Rangers and Celtic and will be just 18 when this fixture comes around. Excellent opportunity to introduce the youngster to the senior international set up if nothing else.

Chris McCann: Having a superb season under the tutelage of Owen Coyle at Burnley. Appears to have all the attributes of a top class midfielder.....which Ireland yearn. Capable of scoring goals as well as running midfield. A famous bust up with Givens could cost him though, considering the apparent poisonous influence Givens has on his superior. Don't expect him to get a chance against Poland.

Keith Andrews: Impressed in the first couple of games with Blackburn but has warmed the bench for the most part since. Failed to shine against Villa mid week and could be out of his depth in the Premier league. Trap will give him a chance against the Poles as he has been impressed with him thus far. But don't think he is a viable long term option.

Rory Delap: Having a reasonable season with Stoke. I wouldnt describe it in the superlative terms some people are describing it as. Was a talented player but was ultimately a victim of his versatility. At 32 should he be given a chance or would it be a step backwards?

Lee Carsley: Everton's loss is Birmingham's gain. Rolling back the years this season. Could definitely do a job in the upcoming qualifiers. Probably will take a bit of coaxing back considering the cockup Trap made in the build up to Cyprus game. But would certainly revel in the holding role that Trap covets.

Owen Garvan: Huge fan of his. Gifted player. Has racked up 100 appearances with Ipswich and has scored 5 goals already this season. All this well before his 21st birthday. Perhaps lacks pace and has a tendency to fade in and out of games but has a great eye for a pass. Would need a holding midfielder to sit in with him on the international scene. Won't get a chance in this one and will need to get the Premiership move in January he so desperately craves in order to push himself into the reckoning.

Andy Reid:?????? Im not going to even open that can of worms

Darron Gibson: Would certainly like to see him get another chance in this one. Classy player unfairly lambasted by Dunphy

Liam Miller: Doesn't deserve another chance

Keith Treacy: Has looked impressive thus far with Blackburn but we are well set on the wings at the moment with Duff, McGeady, and Hunt. Too early for him but has a big future

Other key areas to be looked at:

Full back: Kevin Foley, Stephen Ward, Damien Delaney??

Centre back: Alex Bruce (no way), Darren O'Dea (needs to break into 1st team before given a chance), ANother. Big problem area for Ireland this one if anything happens Dunne or O'Shea

Wings: Look strong with Duff coming back into form

Strikers: Again look strong with Keane and Doyle. Does Noel Hunt deserve a chance? Folan could give us a bit of physicality. Stokes has got off to a reasonable start at Bramall Lane

1.Garvan.
2.Fahey
3.McCann

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Originally Posted by irishultra

1.Garvan.
2.Fahey
3.McCann

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Fahey has to prove himself abroad first. Who do u think he'll go to??

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Originally Posted by tommy_c12000

Fahey has to prove himself abroad first. Who do u think he'll go to??

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I love the way that the proof he's good enough for the squad can be gotten by playing anywhere "abroad" with no further criteria given :rolleyes:


I'd like to see McCarthy and Garvan anyway in the squad

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Originally Posted by irishultra

1.Garvan.
2.Fahey
3.McCann

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Fahey will face the same problem getting into a Trapattoni midfield as Andy Reid, Garvan possibly the same. McCann looks like a very mobile player and could fit the mould he is looking for, only problem is Don Givens has too much of Traps ear and that will prob go against the lad

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Originally Posted by gustavo

I love the way that the proof he's good enough for the squad can be gotten by playing anywhere "abroad" with no further criteria given :rolleyes:


I'd like to see McCarthy and Garvan anyway in the squad

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By "abroad" I mean a league of a lot higher standard than the Eircom League, i.e. the Premiership. I hardly have to spell every thing out do I? Lets face it, the chances of an Eircom League player starting a competitive international game are quite slim in the current climate

Perfect opportunity to integrate some of the peripheral squad players, i'd personally love to see:

1) Kevin Foley - Appreciate I sound like i'm stalking the lad, however can't stress how much he has come on this season. Without shadow of a doubt our player of the season so far and as a natural right back (unlike McShane) and in form (unlike Kelly) he has and a perfect opportunity to see what he can do against decent opposition and stake his claim.

2) Owen Garvan/John-Joe O'Toole - Impressed in the U21's and are progressing well this season, both are big, strong, can pass and score goals. They played great together against England U21's and have the makings of a quality partnership. As a potential problem area would love to see them get 45 minutes.

3) Rory Delap - Can't help think that his throw-ins could get us a goal or two which might be crucial. Solid all-rounder who is surely up there with Gibson & Whelan. With Doyle's intelligent runs ghosting onto his throw-ins we would have a constant threat for the opposition to worry about.

4) Andy Reid - Hopefully he will get a game and make an impression, however he looks a forlorn figure for club and country. Needs a bit of luck and to dig deep and fight back. His career could do with a Brazil-like game to create a turning-point.

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Originally Posted by tommy_c12000

By "abroad" I mean a league of a lot higher standard than the Eircom League, i.e. the Premiership. I hardly have to spell every thing out do I? Lets face it, the chances of an Eircom League player starting a competitive international game are quite slim in the current climate

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While in no way do I think fahey is ready for international football. You can't say "i.e the premiership" when most of those you mentioned yourself don't play there, and practically none of them have proved themselves there.

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Originally Posted by Dodge

While in no way do I think fahey is ready for international football. You can't say "i.e the premiership" when most of those you mentioned yourself don't play there, and practically none of them have proved themselves there.

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The premiership was one example I was throwing out there. I could have thrown in numerous leagues that are of a significantly higher standard than the EL. Probably eg instead of i.e. was more appropriate. You can throw me a shovel if u want. Bottom line though is that the English Championship is still a lot higher standard than the EL, and is often seen as the natural stepping stone for young aspiring footballers before they go on and play football at a higher level. Furthermore, international friendlies are great opportunities to further their ambitions. So I feel the young midfielders I mentioned should be ahead of Fahey in the pecking order

It was the i.e. I had a problem with. And as I've said numerous times, Fahey's not ready for international football. He is, however, a far better player than most you mention

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Originally Posted by Dodge

It was the i.e. I had a problem with. And as I've said numerous times, Fahey's not ready for international football. He is, however, a far better player than most you mention

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He's definitely head and shoulders above every one else in the league and hopefully he'll go on and show his class at a higher level (I'll leave it vague this time)

Would certainly include Garvan, McCann and O'Toole as centre midfield is a big problem area. Would also like to see St Ledger given a go at centre back. Also think that Noel Hunt and Walters should be given a chance. They have been impressive performers at club level over the last couple of years and have probably shown more consistency than Keogh, Stokes, Murphy, Folan and Long.

I would like to see St ledger,Joey o`brien,Foley given a chance in defence maybe O`brien in midfield.
Garvan,McCann and O`Toole in midfield.
Hunt or Folan in the forwards.

How is Liam Lawrence coming on with his injury recouperation?

if he is back fit and playing football before this game, i wouldnt mind seeing him get some game time.

Also what about Clinton Morrison??

Squad I'd like to see, (25-man);

Goalkeepers: Given, Kiely, Doyle

Defenders: Finnan, Foley, Kilbane, Delaney; Dunne, O'Shea, McShane, St. Ledger

Midfielders: Carsley, Whelan, Garvan, Andrews, Duff, McGeady, Hunt (S), A. Reid, Delap

Forwards: Keane, Doyle, Keogh, Hunt (N), Murphy

Think that Garvan is showing more promise than Gibson, so I'd have him in. The game might be too soon for O'Halloran, but if he was fully fit I'd throw him in ahead of Delaney as backup left-back. Third goalie spot is very much up for grabs. Delap gets in ahead of Lawrence for the novelty.

edit: I actually forgot about Joey O'Brien. Oh well.

Delap, Garvan, and Andrews really should all get a chance to show what they can do

Chris McCann and JJ 'O Toole should also be in the squad and this is a game where Gibson could shine.

I hope he goes with an experimental side. A good chance for some of the understudies to be given a chance to shine whilst giving more game time to the Dunne/O'Shea partnership.

Given/Kiely

J O'Brien Dunne O'Shea Delaney

McGeady Andrews McCarthy S Hunt

Doyle N Hunt

Give Delap a run out at right back/right midfield after 45 minutes as well as giving Garvan some game time. Folan

I hope calls up:

Lee Carsley
James McCarthy
Rory Delap
John Joe O'Toole
Paddy McCarthy
Kevin Foley

And a serious effort should be made to try to get Barry Maguire...

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Originally Posted by Ciaran

-----------------------------Given-------------------
Finnan/Kelly/McShane---Dunne----O Shea----Kilbane
Delap--------Carsley/Andrews----Andy Reid------Duff
------------Keane-----Doyle/Nunt

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Id this the official abbreviation, Nunt and Sunt???

Just hope the brother Cathal doesnt get a game

i think the squad should be:

(gk) Westwood, Kiely, Kenny (Given deserves a break)

(df) Foley, O'Shea, Dunne, Paddy McCarthy, St.Ledger, Delaney, J O'Brien, Kilbane

(mf) A.Reid, Delap, Andrews, O'Toole, Garvan, Whelan, Duff, McGeady, Hunt, Walters

(fw) Doyle, Keane, N.Hunt, Elliott, Sheridan

The team should be:

Westwood

Foley O'Shea Dunne Delaney

Andrews Garvan

McGeady Duff
Keane
Doyle



A.Reid, Sheridan, the Hunt brothers, McCarthy and St.Ledger should get the whole second half

I dont think Sheridan should be anywhere near a first team squad at the moment. He needs much more experience at club level before we start throwing him in to the international team (even if it is a friendly).

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Originally Posted by Junior

I dont think Sheridan should be anywhere near a first team squad at the moment. He needs much more experience at club level before we start throwing him in to the international team (even if it is a friendly).

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agreed, there are other lads ahead of him at the moment

I think we should keep the starting team intact, save for central midfield. Not sure who I'd like in the whole squad but in the starting team I'd have:


Given
Finnan-O'Shea-Dunne-Kilbane
McGeady-Whelan-McCarthy-Duff
Keane-Doyle

Let them sub it up in the second half as much as they'd like.

i think sheridan is worth a try because as you said its a friendly and we need somebody tall up front who can head a ball (daryl murphy is better with the ball at his feet)

what are the chances of trap really calling these lads (Garvan McCann O'Toole et al) out of the blue?

he seems to be displaying the same myopia as Stan in some of his decisions. Not criticising the results he's had or anything (not having seen any of the qualifiers so far) but surely its coming to the point where he's got to call up these form players at some stage ahead of the tried and tested that shouldn't be anywhere near the squad based on current form / or lack of? (i.e Murphy, Long , Keogh, Gibson, Whelan)...

have a funny feeling though that we won't see many of the young lads in this squad either...

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Originally Posted by richieos

i think the squad should be:

(gk) Westwood, Kiely, Kenny (Given deserves a break)

(df) Foley, O'Shea, Dunne, Paddy McCarthy, St.Ledger, Delaney, J O'Brien, Kilbane

(mf) A.Reid, Delap, Andrews, O'Toole, Garvan, Whelan, Duff, McGeady, Hunt, Walters

(fw) Doyle, Keane, N.Hunt, Elliott, Sheridan

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Would find room in there for McCann and might even try and entice Naughton into the fold, but other than that this would be a very progressive squad.

whats the latest on Finnan ???

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Originally Posted by richieos

i think sheridan is worth a try because as you said its a friendly and we need somebody tall up front who can head a ball (daryl murphy is better with the ball at his feet)

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We have Folan, possibly Lee ahead of Sheridan for this role at the moment.

Squad I'd like to see:

GK: Given, Kiely, Kenny

D: Foley, J. O'Brien, Dunne, O'Shea, McShane, St. Ledger, Delaney, Kilbane,

M: Duff, McGeady, S. Hunt, Whelan, Carsley, Rowlands, Andrews, A. Reid, Lawrence,

F: Keane, Doyle, Folan, N. Hunt

Possible Starting XI:

Given
Foley Dunne O'Shea Delaney
McGeady Carsley Andrews Duff
Folan Keane

Rowlands, Lawrence, Reid should all get time on the pitch.

St. Ledger should get a half to establish himself as backup for CB.

Edit: If forgot Paul McShane...

Id like Murphy at Bohs to get a chance . Only 12 goals conceeded in the 31 games so far in the league. Rest Given and give the lad a half

Apperently Westwood was amazing last night for coventry with morrison scoring the goal.

Im not a bad keeper but im a Prod :p

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Originally Posted by bwagner

Im not a bad keeper but im a Prod :p

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dont you mean a bad proddy boy?? :D

Does Morrison's form warrent a recall to the squad? Do we really think that Murphy, Folan, Stokes et al have done more at club and international level to deserve selection ahead of Clinton? He has never been wanting for effort scored valuable goals and if Doyle ges injured has always worked well with Robbie. I've convinced myself. Bring back Clinton!

Apparently McCarthy was called up which is a good thing.

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Originally Posted by Fergie's Son

Apparently McCarthy was called up which is a good thing.

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has the squad been announced? i havent heard about it

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Originally Posted by richieos

has the squad been announced? i havent heard about it

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No - but the intent to call up McCarthy is widely reported.

It’s about time too and I hope St Ledger is also called up. The more players we have for centre back the less chance we will ever see McShane play there again.

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Originally Posted by Paddy Garcia

No - but the intent to call up McCarthy is widely reported.

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R ye talking about Paddy or James McCarthy?

24 man squad


Given, Kiely, Doyle

Finnan, J' O'Brien, Dunne, O'Shea, Delaney, McShane, Kilbane


S Hunt, McGeady, McCarthy, Whelan, Delap, Duff, A Reid, Gibson, Lawrence


Keane, Doyle, N.Hunt, Murphy, Folan


And id start

................Kiely

McShane....Dunne.....O'Shea......Kilbane


McGeady....Whelan...Gibson...Duff


Hunt....Doyle

give delap 45 ins,,and give mccarthy 45 mins