trouble according to todays Independent .Players taking 40% wage cut and Budget slashed by 25% for next season.
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trouble according to todays Independent .Players taking 40% wage cut and Budget slashed by 25% for next season.
"Bray Latest Team in"
What exactly is that supposed to mean? English, you speak it?
Not surprised to hear about the money trouble. Their crowds seem to be getting worse as the season goes on.
No surpirse at all. Our crowds are terrible and we have a fairly big squad.
Hopefully, we stay up and get rid of some players.
Looks like the end of high wages for players and smaller squads as well. Is it only Pats and the big pub who now have either a sugar daddy or a massive overdraft?
Everyone else now are trying to live within their means!
The fact is a lot of clubs are overspending and there's not enough fans to support the league.
The clubs need to cop on.
the support is there if the football was at a higher level. The "Real Fact" is that there are far to many poor/average players in the league getting paid to much money !
Spot on. id imagine a lot fo clubs will be taking big cuts this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfrank
Our rumoured wages(including backroom staff) was over 50k a week this year. Next year it is to be cut to between 15 and 20k.
There'l be a lot of players free and only one club in a position to pay big money. Wages will certainly be coming down
So that leaves us, Rovers, UCD, and Wexford that haven't been in financial trouble this year.
It's like an Irish version of Battle Royale
Monaghan?Quote:
Originally Posted by jebus
Dundalk.
monaghan dundalk and shels have been ommited from your list oh and yous have been no bastion of financial stability over the past few yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by jebus
and Shelbourne.
Who else is in Fran Gavin's bakers dozen?
When were City in trouble this season ? *Quote:
Originally Posted by passerrby
* a few idiots on here misreading an SK interview to speculate that we'd have to go part-time next season does not equate to financial troubles....
agree steve i should have included them. very few of us rock solid clubs left... maybe we should consider setting up our own league
Have you paid Conor Sammon's transfer fee from over half a year ago?Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
Four other teams pay out more in wages than Bohs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Candystripe
Could Derry be one of the teams paying out more??
Looks that way considering dungannon and other clubs are still waiting for transfers fees:o.
Still not paid UCD:eek:thats Dungannon and UCD now,so we can take it Derry are having financial trouble.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poor Student
Didnt Bray say they made a profit about 5 weeks ago??
That's why I said this year champQuote:
Originally Posted by passerrby
sorry steve i have to withdraw my offer to you until you can furnish me with proof of your financial sustainabilityQuote:
Originally Posted by Bohemian1890
I think i remember Eddie Gormley giving out a few weeks ago that there were teams above them in the league that were there due to overspending while Bray had stayed sensible. It is hard to budjet though for the attendances they have been getting in fairness.
Heard somewhere that only two First Division clubs have paid their players every week this season aswell.........
on tonights echo that coughlan brought team away for a few days and told them the budget is 15k per week for next seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by micls
I wonder who the other club isQuote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
So when is Pete Mahon doing his next interview? He will surely be calling for points deductions here too then will he?
Sad news, but maybe with so many teams in bother it could be a major wake up call to all clubs to curb the spending.
One begins in L and ends in 7.Quote:
Originally Posted by passerrby
The other is Dundalk.
Was surprised myself but that's what the officianado told me.
It appears the noises from many clubs is to change their recent habits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam_Heggy
But if many clubs are in a similar situation, does that not let them off the hook a little bit?
'Everybody is spending too much'
'We're all in the same boat'
I think the Natural competitiveness of these great clubmen will return very quickly. Especially those that use the long arm of the law to renege on payment of their debts.
agree harpo i dont believe most clus have learned anything from this seasons fcukups they,ll do it all over again given the chanceQuote:
Originally Posted by HarpoJoyce
If someone told you only Limerick 37 and dundalk have paid their players on time this year then they are simply telling lies.
Shelbourne have no no wage issues this season.
Quote:
Originally Posted by higgins
Limerick have paid all their players on time this year, I know that for a fact. I can't comment on Dundalk though.
That'd be a bit much. In fairness, from what I've heard, it seems that the board are just cutting costs before they get into serious trouble.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam_Heggy
AFAIK, we don't have a hefty, outstanding tax bill or need a large sum of money before a certain date (like Sligo), we don't have a large debt or have to go into examinership (like Cork or Drogs), we haven't had to defer wages. AFAIK, all the club are doing is making a pre-emptive move before things get worse.
There's only three weeks left in the season. We do have two home games in that time against Drogs and Cobh but that won't really add much. Cobh won't get the crowds in and I don't think Drogs will be as big a draw as there were before.
What's a 40% wage cut if it's not a wage deferral? Unless you're simply not paying them that ever, which is worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfrank
Surprised at Bray, to be honest. Thought the large losses you seem to always rack up were at least being happily enough covered by the directors, as there was rarely a peep out of the Carlisle.
Just us and Rovers left standing. Going to be a very poor Premier Division next year, I'd say. The bubble has well and truly burst.
It's a wage cut. My guess is they are cutting the wages before they get into a position where they'll have to start deferring wages.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
I don't know all the ins and outs so I can't say for sure what the club are doing exactly.
I don't think you can cut wages and then say you haven't deferred wages. I agree they're different words, but I think the seriousness of both is so linked, and the similarities are so marked that it's pointless differentiating between them.
The difference being though that deferred wages must be paid to get a license the next season-like us.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
However a wage cut it just a restructuring of a contract with a player-similar to giving them a better contract mid-contract.
What it does do is make all the Bray players technically free agents, but given that the players have agreed to it, fair play to them. They certainly didnt have to
Presumably a cut is worse since the players will never get the money.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Worse for the players but better for the club when it comes to licensing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Student Mullet
As far as I am aware our players where paid on time this season and have been ever since Gerry Matthews took over the club.Quote:
Originally Posted by L37Ultra
An incident did occur where players and the board disagreed about their first payment date but this was a storm in a teacup and would of stayed that way only for those pesky PFAI and Stephen "Unfinished Business" McGuinness.
Bray are fully tax complient.
Which means they've paid last year's tax bill. Doesn't mean they're able to pay this year's one necessarily.
Bray are tax complient, it was only filed a short time ago.