Squad named for Nottm Forest "challenge match"

http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=c...k=view&id=3627


FAI senior challenge match - Republic of Ireland XI v Nottingham Forest
Joe Murphy - Scunthorpe United
Keiren Westwood - Coventry City
Kevin Foley - Wolves
Alex Bruce - Ipswich
Darren O’Dea - Celtic
Stephen Ward - Wolves
Paddy McCarthy - Crystal Palace
Eddie Nolan - Blackburn Rovers
Andy Keogh - Wolves
Darron Gibson - Manchester Utd
Darren Potter - Wolves
Wes Hoolahan - Norwich
Martin Rowlands - QPR
Owen Garvan - Ipswich
Shane Long - Reading
Caleb Folan - Hull City
Sean Scannell - Crystal Palace
Noel Hunt - Reading
Liam Lawrence - Stoke City
Keith Treacy - Blackburn Rovers
Keith Andrews - Blackburn Rovers
Anthony Stokes - Sunderland

Sean St Ledger must feel left out , or is he injured and No Mc Cann either or John Joe O' Toole.

http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=c...k=view&id=3627

pity it's not played at the City ground, very handy for me!!!!

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Originally Posted by NeilMcD

Sean St Ledger must feel left out , or is he injured and No Mc Cann either or John Joe O' Toole.

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All those players played for their respective clubs at the weekend. I can only assume Preston, Burnley and Watford have training camps on or around the 9th October.

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Originally Posted by NeilMcD

Sean St Ledger must feel left out , or is he injured and No Mc Cann either or John Joe O' Toole.

http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=c...k=view&id=3627

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JJ went off injured against Reading on saturday, and did not play against West Ham on Tuesday night.....that said I think his injury was no more than a dead leg or similar

..and NO Stephen Ireland;)

R seamus coleman from sligo,when is the game on

If 5 of those players turn out to be Premiership regulars we will be dong well

Reading that it seems Stephen Ward is being picked as a defender. Must have really improved since his move to full back. Good luck to him

No Jamie McCarthy either

Decent squad. Whatever happened to Stan's 2 finds, Lee Frecklington and Lewis Emmanuel?

A joke Fahey was not selected, as well as Brian Murphy. Even Coleman of Sligo..A complete and utter joke.

Anyway price is good, will definetly be going.

Lads the one thing that should not happen is that managers slagged over players who they call up to the B Squad and then they turn out to be rubbish. If that was the case then managers would make conservative calls all the time. Staunton did far more damage then calling up those two guys. Ho harm in it at the time.


Also in relation to the call for Eircom League players. I do not think that Pat Fenlon would be too happy if Murphy was to miss the away match to Drogheda the next night due to this game. The Eircom League is not set up for the players to play international football as there are not international breaks.

Maybe he feels that McCann, O'Toole and McCarthy have platforms to show what they can do at U21 and that the like of Potter, Houlehan, Andrews don't????

The problem is that Mc Cann does not get on with Givens really and does he even play for the U21's at the moment.

Hard to know what he expected to see playing a Championship side & seems unlikely they would play a strong team.

Does Trappatoni watch club games live? :confused:

Nice that the tickets are cheap. Would have liked to have seen McCarthy included too.

Btw it is Nottingham Forest. They do get picky about the Notts thing. Nottm is OK for short.

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Originally Posted by NeilMcD

Lads the one thing that should not happen is that managers slagged over players who they call up to the B Squad and then they turn out to be rubbish. If that was the case then managers would make conservative calls all the time. Staunton did far more damage then calling up those two guys. Ho harm in it at the time.


Also in relation to the call for Eircom League players. I do not think that Pat Fenlon would be too happy if Murphy was to miss the away match to Drogheda the next night due to this game. The Eircom League is not set up for the players to play international football as there are not international breaks.

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I was actually being serious when I said I wondered what happened to them.

well yeah I understand the league is more important than a match against forest, but still they deserve the respect of at least being told they would have been selected had they not been in the middle of their domestic campaign.

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Originally Posted by irishultra

well yeah I understand the league is more important than a match against forest, but still they deserve the respect of at least being told they would have been selected had they not been in the middle of their domestic campaign.

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Rubbish. They'd have taken it as the tokenism it was.

A couple might be good enough for the B squad but as Neil said, league football is far more important

Rubbish, they should be called up to the squad if they can play. But they cant play as they are busy the following night in league duty which is more important than this match. If they were given a call by Trap, it would be called tokenism by others. Players should be called up on the basis of two criteria, ability and availability.

and if they were available do you think any of them would have been selected?

If my Aunty had balls.

I would have like to have seen Fahey given a run but there are a lot of good youngsters in there so I don't really have any qualms

No John Joe O'Toole, Chris McCann or Jaime McCarthy three of our most exciting prospects all enjoying great starts to their respective seasons but Darren Potter is in there who has yet to get any game time at Wolves this season even though he's fit. Baffling in the extreme though a closer inspection to what was actually said when Trap was interviewed about the squad reveals all.

”I want to thank our scouting team and our U-21 manager Don Givens for identifying many new players who are performing well this year. I have already worked with some of this squad during our time in Portugal and I look forward to working with those I have not already seen."

Kerr is gone, Stan is gone but Don Givens remains in his post and seems to have more influence than ever. The FAI really need to shift that plank.

We need to cap Jamie McCarthy pronto a la Darron Gibson or Joseph Lapira. He's not ours yet. This guy could potentially be a starter in central midfield for us for the next fifteen years and it would break my heart to see him lining out for Scotland instead of us.

yes mccarthy is a class act still v young and hope he doesnt burn out to quick with all the football he is playing,as for alex bruce he is a joke of a defender

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Originally Posted by Colbert Report

We need to cap Jamie McCarthy pronto

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You realise he wouldn't earn that cap v Notts Forest?

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Originally Posted by Colbert Report

We need to cap Jamie McCarthy pronto a la Darron Gibson or Joseph Lapira. He's not ours yet. This guy could potentially be a starter in central midfield for us for the next fifteen years and it would break my heart to see him lining out for Scotland instead of us.

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if jamie mccarthy ends up playing for scotland it will only be because he wants to and in that case we are better off without him. however, i heard him say recently that he was committed to playing for us so give it time

Of course he won't earn a cap playing against Nottingham Forest. I'm not an idiot. My point was, we need to get him involved in the senior Irish set up. I brought this up because another lad mentioned him in this thread immediately before I responded.

Very little order to that squad on the FAI site.


Joe Murphy - Scunthorpe United
Keiren Westwood - Coventry City

Alex Bruce - Ipswich
Darren O’Dea - Celtic
Paddy McCarthy - Crystal Palace
Eddie Nolan - Blackburn Rovers
Kevin Foley - Wolves
Stephen Ward - Wolves

Darron Gibson - Manchester Utd
Darren Potter - Wolves
Owen Garvan - Ipswich
Keith Andrews - Blackburn Rovers
Martin Rowlands - QPR
Wes Hoolahan - Norwich
Liam Lawrence - Stoke City
Sean Scannell - Crystal Palace
Keith Treacy - Blackburn Rovers

Noel Hunt - Reading
Andy Keogh - Wolves
Caleb Folan - Hull City
Shane Long - Reading
Anthony Stokes - Sunderland


Looks better now. :)

Scannell is a striker isn't he?

lads, do any of you have an email addy for fai that can be used to contact someone with regard to making them aware of someones eligibility. i dont wanna say who as the player himself isn't 100% sure (he aint the brightest spark), but he's certainly an outstanding prospect and is likely to be travelling with squad.

Great to see Liam Lawrence in there. Hopefully he turns out and can play his way into the senior team, or at least the squad

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Originally Posted by livehead1

lads, do any of you have an email addy for fai that can be used to contact someone with regard to making them aware of someones eligibility. i dont wanna say who as the player himself isn't 100% sure (he aint the brightest spark), but he's certainly an outstanding prospect and is likely to be travelling with squad.

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You teasing bitch!;)

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Originally Posted by Colbert Report

Scannell is a striker isn't he?

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Not a striker imo. Walcott type.

Fair enough, I've only seen him on TV a couple of times.

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Originally Posted by NeilMcD

Rubbish, they should be called up to the squad if they can play. But they cant play as they are busy the following night in league duty which is more important than this match. If they were given a call by Trap, it would be called tokenism by others. Players should be called up on the basis of two criteria, ability and availability.

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Why not play it on the Wednesday??

Good time to have a look at players.

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Originally Posted by irishultra

and if they were available do you think any of them would have been selected?

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Eh..no they are not British:rolleyes:

Trapattoni: "I want to thank our scouting team and our Under 21 manager Don Givens for identifying many new players who are performing well this year. I have already worked with some of this squad during our time in Portugal and I look forward to working with those I have not already seen."

We must have a terrible scouting team if they haven't been able to recognise how well James McCarthy and John-Joe O'Toole have been playing of late...