World Soccer's 50 Greatest Derbies

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15/07/2008, 7:01 PM
Sheridan

World Soccer's 50 Greatest Derbies

50: Gremio vs. Internacional
49: Tenrife vs. Las Palmas
48: Mohun Bagan vs. East Bengal
47: Sarajevo vs. Zeljeznicar
46: ASEC Abidjan vs. Africa Sports
45: Anderlecht vs. Club Brugge
44: FC Copenhagen vs. Brondby
43: Alianza Lima vs. Universitario
42: Arsenal vs. Tottenham
41: Beitar Jerusalem vs. Hapoel Tel Aviv
40: Hajduk Split vs. Dinamo Zagreb
39: Barcelona vs. Emelec
38: Rapid Wien vs. Austria Wien
37: Basle vs. Zurich
36: Raja Casablanca vs. Wydad Casablanca
35: America vs. Deportivo Cali
34: Genoa vs. Sampdoria
33: CSKA Sofia vs. Levski Sofia
32: AIK Stockhold vs. Djurgardens
31: Ferencvaros vs. Ujpest
30: Cerro Porteno vs. Olimpia
29: Rosario Central vs. Newell's Old Boys
28: Liverpool vs. Manchester United
27: Corinthians vs. Santos
26: Slavia Prague vs. Sparta Prague
25: Kaizer Chiefs vs. Orlando Pirates
24: Steaua Bucharest vs. Dinamo Bucharest
23: Spartak Moscow vs. CSKA Moscow
22: Pirouzi vs. Esteghlal
21: Nacional vs. Penarol
20: America vs. Guadalajara
19: Racing Club vs. Independiente
18: Corinthians vs. Sao Paulo
17: Benfica vs. Porto
16: Athletic Bilbao vs. Real Sociedad
15: Milan vs. Internazionale
14: Olympiakos vs. Panathinaikos
13: Flamengo vs. Vasco da Gama
12: Juventus vs. Fiorentina
11: Marseille vs. Paris Saint-Germain
10: Partizan Belgrade vs. Red Star Belgrade
9: Betis vs. Sevilla
8: Al Ahly vs. Zamalek
7: Schalke vs. Borussia Dortmund
6: Lazio vs. Roma
5: Ajax vs. Feyenoord
4: Galatasaray vs. Fenerbahce
3: Celtic vs. Rangers
2: Boca Juniors vs. River Plate
1: Real Madrid vs. Barcelona
15/07/2008, 7:06 PM
jebus

Some of those aren't even proper derbies, number one for example
15/07/2008, 7:08 PM
Mr Maroon

Who decided this?
15/07/2008, 7:10 PM
Sheridan

World Soccer magazine. (Sorry, I didn't realise the title was ambiguous as I never refer to football as soccer.) Specifically, Peterjon Cresswell, Tim Vickery, Mark Gleeson, Sid Lowe, Martin del Palacio Langer and John Holmesdale.
15/07/2008, 7:12 PM
Mr Maroon

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Originally Posted by Sheridan

World Soccer magazine. (Sorry, I didn't realise the title was ambiguous as I never refer to football as soccer.)

Oh I get ya now. ;)
15/07/2008, 7:32 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by jebus

Some of those aren't even proper derbies, number one for example

Ah that old chestnut. I'm one of those who believe that location doesn't matter but either way is it worth arguing about?

Can't argue with the top 6 games anyway (although the Barca v Real game is bigger in Barcelona than Madrid...)
15/07/2008, 7:34 PM
jebus

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Ah that old chestnut. I'm one of those who believe that location doesn't matter but either way is it worth arguing about?

Can't argue with the top 6 games anyway (although the Barca v Real game is bigger in Barcelona than Madrid...)

It holds a lot of sway in the discussion though. No way is Real Madrid losing to Barcelona as painful for their fans as Lazio losing to Roma, or Rangers losing to Celtic, well the ones who live in Rome and Glasgow anyway
15/07/2008, 7:41 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by jebus

It holds a lot of sway in the discussion though. No way is Real Madrid losing to Barcelona as painful for their fans as Lazio losing to Roma, or Rangers losing to Celtic, well the ones who live in Rome and Glasgow anyway

You have no idea about Madrid v Barcelona so...
15/07/2008, 7:50 PM
monutdfc

Is number 8 the Egyptian one? Saw it on tv once, it goes in at number 1 for me!
15/07/2008, 8:07 PM
jebus

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Originally Posted by Dodge

You have no idea about Madrid v Barcelona so...

Barca go to Madrid, Barca lose, Barca fans go home and pine among their own crowd, Barca and Madrid play different teams the next weekend, Madrid lose and Barca win, all is nearly forgotten.

Lazio play Roma in their shared stadium, Lazio lose, Lazio fans hear about it non stop until they next play each other regardless of how next week's matches go
15/07/2008, 8:11 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by jebus

Barca go to Madrid, Barca lose, Barca fans go home and pine among their own crowd, Barca and Madrid play different teams the next weekend, Madrid lose and Barca win, all is nearly forgotten.

It goes way way deeperthan just being annoyed because your mates team won. There's political, social and cultural reasons why this game is the biggest in europe. In the week leading up to whole newspapers in Spain are devoted to it.

Oha nd btw its the only game on the list I've been to.
15/07/2008, 8:21 PM
centre mid

A lot of those are grudge matches as opposed to Derbies.
15/07/2008, 8:26 PM
Rovers fan

Quote:

Originally Posted by jebus

Barca go to Madrid, Barca lose, Barca fans go home and pine among their own crowd, Barca and Madrid play different teams the next weekend, Madrid lose and Barca win, all is nearly forgotten.

Lazio play Roma in their shared stadium, Lazio lose, Lazio fans hear about it non stop until they next play each other regardless of how next week's matches go

How do you know?
15/07/2008, 8:43 PM
jebus

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dodge

It goes way way deeperthan just being annoyed because your mates team won. There's political, social and cultural reasons why this game is the biggest in europe. In the week leading up to whole newspapers in Spain are devoted to it.

The Spanish newspapers are even worse than their English counterparts for shilling their rags. I'm not saying it isn't the biggest game in europe, but it isn't the biggest derby if you get where I'm coming from.

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Originally Posted by Rovers fan

How do you know?

Because I did a survey of every single Madrid and Barcelona fan last year and compared them to a survey I did 10 years of every single Roma and Lazio fan. Turns out Spanish prefer less talking on their radio stations too
15/07/2008, 8:50 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by centre mid

A lot of those are grudge matches as opposed to Derbies.

But its only england (and obviously surronding small countries) that use the term Derby to mean local derby. Elsewhere its just the biggest rivalry
15/07/2008, 8:59 PM
forza rovers

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28: Liverpool vs. Manchester United

surly that should be Everton?
15/07/2008, 9:12 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by forza rovers

surly that should be Everton?

Nah Liverpool v Utd is bigger now. Its another one of those cultural things. Scousers despise Mancs and vice versa.

I'm sure some Liverpool fans will say Everton is their big game,and maybe even amajority of Utd fans will say City is the massive ;) one for them but for overall interest, both are down the list
15/07/2008, 10:59 PM
TheBoss

Celtic v Rangers has to be the No. 1, the amount of titles between 2 teams from one city, makes it the biggest for me.
15/07/2008, 11:22 PM
Wangball

I've went to 3 Old Firm Derby matches when I lived in Glasgow, 2 in Celtic Park and one in Hampden...nothing better than when you win and crushing when you lose because nearly everywhere you got the first question your asked is Celtic or Rangers...it means so much to everyone

Aberdeen Rangers should of maybe snuck in there too....its possibly more heated than the Old Firm and its purely football no religious aspect involved at all
15/07/2008, 11:22 PM
Mr Maroon

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Originally Posted by monutdfc

Is number 8 the Egyptian one? Saw it on tv once, it goes in at number 1 for me!

Yes, number 8 is "the Egyptian one".

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