Journalists/Hack membership of site.

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07/02/2008, 12:09 PM
HarpoJoyce

Journalists/Hack membership of site.

What controls are in place to identify hack /journalists on this site.

There are a number of journalists I am aware of who use this site. And other posters that I am suspicious of. As journalists are able to broadcast through several other media (mediums) of communication, shouldn't at least they be identified on this site

Personaly I would be happy if actions were taken:

Controls on promoting their own articles or articles of the ORGAN they work for.
Other members been made aware who are the hack members and so may keep distance/engage as seems fit.
Questioned as to why they need to even broadcast on this site when they should have a number of other avenues to express their opinions.
07/02/2008, 12:15 PM
superfrank

Journalists are football fans too but any journo that uses this site as a source for "reliable" information shouldn't be a journalist.
07/02/2008, 12:23 PM
passinginterest

I'd agree with superfrank.
I don't think there is an issue with people coming on here and spamming or promoting articles that they've written. Anyone attempting to spam has been banned quickly in my experience.
07/02/2008, 12:35 PM
superfrank

Quote:

Originally Posted by passinginterest

Anyone attempting to spam has been banned quickly in my experience.

That is the common procedure here.

I don't think people should be identified on here just because of their profession. Some of them just want to talk about football with other people and a forum with a chosen user name gives them the anonymity they crave (if they're famous ones).

Not all are here to pimp their work. As was evident in one user, not all of them behave "professionally" all the time.
07/02/2008, 12:39 PM
Sheridan

Most Irish sports journalists are semi-literate buffoons who know nothing about football apart from what they've gleaned from other media sources and seasoned with their own prejudices.

They fit right in here!
07/02/2008, 12:46 PM
osarusan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheridan

Most Irish sports journalists are semi-literate buffoons who know nothing about football apart from what they've gleaned from other media sources and seasoned with their own prejudices.

They fit right in here!

You're absolutely right Mr. Myers.
07/02/2008, 12:59 PM
jebus

Alright I admit it, I'm Richard Littlejohn, happy now you Muslim loving, Nazi flag waving, PC liberal terrorist!! :) You couldn't make it up what goes on around here sometimes
07/02/2008, 1:19 PM
dahamsta

What superfrank, passinginterest and Sheridan said.

Journalists are people too. Just.

adam
07/02/2008, 1:20 PM
Wolfie

Quote:

Originally Posted by dahamsta

What superfrank, passinginterest and Sheridan said.

Journalists are people too. Just.

adam

Reminds me of an old Simpsons quote:

"Ladies and Gentlemen.....and members of the Press".
07/02/2008, 1:21 PM
soccerc

Quote:

Originally Posted by dahamsta

What superfrank, passinginterest and Sheridan said.

Journalists are people too. Just.

adam

Thanks :D
07/02/2008, 1:27 PM
dahamsta

BTW, just to add, The Star is on it's last chance on Foot.ie. If one more article uses unattributed material from Foot.ie, whether it's copyrighted to one of us or one of you, their computer networks will be blocked from the site, and all users with thestar.ie email addresses will be permanently banned from the site.

adam
07/02/2008, 1:49 PM
Jerry The Saint

I'd be in favour of a little banner that says "UNCLEAN, UNCLEAN" on each of their posts ;) Also some type of finger-pointing smiley would be nice.

Ken Early from NewsTalk attributed this site as his source for quotes from the recent Staunton interview on Sky Sports News. I wonder why he didn't also quote NeilMcD's description of him as a

Quote:

ginger tosser

:)
07/02/2008, 2:09 PM
Bluebeard

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheridan

Most Irish sports journalists are semi-literate buffoons who know nothing about football apart from what they've gleaned from other media sources and seasoned with their own prejudices.

Three words too many in that sentence.
07/02/2008, 2:11 PM
osarusan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluebeard

Three words too many in that sentence.

Most, sports, and semi-literate?

Or do you count semi-literate as two words?
07/02/2008, 2:13 PM
Billsthoughts

:D I wouldnt be surprised if Neil was Ken Earley and his post was just some flann o brien-esque attempt to boost his profile....
seriously the only reason anyone would want journalists identified would be plain old fashioned curiosity.
07/02/2008, 2:15 PM
Rocky77

Nah, Ken Early wouldn't support Bohs, or any Irish club for that matter. Apparently, being their soccer corr means knowing about La Liga.

Useful chap.
07/02/2008, 2:18 PM
osarusan

ok, I admit it. I'm the Japanese correspondent for the Limerick 37 fanzine.
07/02/2008, 2:25 PM
Bondvillain

Quote:

Originally Posted by dahamsta

BTW, just to add, The Star is on it's last chance on Foot.ie. If one more article uses unattributed material from Foot.ie, whether it's copyrighted to one of us or one of you, their computer networks will be blocked from the site, and all users with thestar.ie email addresses will be permanently banned from the site.

adam

Yay! No more embarrassing "Oi! The litle thief!" exclamations when reading the freebie star at lunchtime.
07/02/2008, 2:35 PM
GavinZac

I'm Pat Dolan, though I wouldn't consider myself a journalist, more of an expert feature writer. Pride and passion, eh?
07/02/2008, 6:31 PM
HarpoJoyce

Quote:

Originally Posted by passinginterest

I'd agree with superfrank.
I don't think there is an issue with people coming on here and spamming or promoting articles that they've written. Anyone attempting to spam has been banned quickly in my experience.

Quote:

Originally Posted by superfrank

That is the common procedure here.

I don't think people should be identified on here just because of their profession. Some of them just want to talk about football with other people and a forum with a chosen user name gives them the anonymity they crave (if they're famous ones).

Not all are here to pimp their work. As was evident in one user, not all of them behave "professionally" all the time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dahamsta

What superfrank, passinginterest and Sheridan said.

Journalists are people too. Just.

adam

These opinions are all very well until the individuals have to make a decision and remove a regular poster. In the US Presidental Elections thread in Current Affairs (post #174) Aberdeen Stu quite blantly links an article he wrote without any initial reference that he wrote it. It took a complaint from ......eh me to point it out to mods and they informed AS and he edited his post. If we follow the rule of passinginterest, superfrank and dahamsta then Aberdeen Stu is out on his ear.
If you Spammed, You be Banned.

The fact that Aberdeen Stu remains a poster on foot.ie makes a liar out of the three of them.

But I'm not calling for a ban on Journalists using the site, just that they be identified. To lessen the likelihood of abuses as the one shown. Its good Aberdeen Stu had an oppurtunity to Edit his own post, giving him continued power over his own work. But it shouldn't take a complaint by another poster for this to happen. It is not curiosity which I wish Journalists to be identified but empowerment of other posters to know who they are talking with.

A symbol by their handle/member name would be helpful, as I stated another poster may avoid conversation or engage.

As far as Aberdeen Stu was concerned he had no problem abusing the access he gets on this site to further his own publicity. One funny aspect is that his article is linked in the previous post (#173) by....eh me. Did Aberdeen Stu see this as part of the thread, not at all, he leap to reply to a previous question. No interest in developing the thread just his own publicity.

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