4 Bohs fans jailed in Derry

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10/10/2007, 1:42 PM
paul_oshea

4 Bohs fans jailed in Derry

whats the story here? what happened or did it not "happen"?! ;)#

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2007/1010/hooligans.html
10/10/2007, 1:43 PM
rebs23

More Trouble at EL Matches

http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/bre...breaking43.htm

Getting out of hand lads, after last weekend Cork-Rovers and now this serious measures will have to be introduced. Can't understand trouble at a Derry match, the most hospitable and friendly supporters in the country. Whats this about?
10/10/2007, 1:45 PM
kdjaC

It wasnt at the match it was a protestant pub that was attacked nothing to do with football in this country but done by fans of football in this country :confused:

kdjac
10/10/2007, 1:47 PM
rebs23

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdjaC

It wasnt at the match it was a protestant pub that was attacked nothing to do with football in this country but done by fans of football in this country :confused:

kdjac

That nearly makes it worse. Sectarian attacks by (so called) Bohs supporters?
10/10/2007, 1:47 PM
paul_oshea

so it had nothing to do with EL fans as usual?

Dont try and differentiate the two, by saying it was people going to the bohs match who aren't "real" football supporters, but sectarians who did it......you can't keep closing your eyes to this, denial is a terrible thing as jim carey says!!

If I have picked you up wrong I apologise
10/10/2007, 1:48 PM
feo123

they're scumbags. simple as.
10/10/2007, 1:49 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

so it had nothing to do with EL fans as usual?

He didn't say that. he said it didn't happen at an EL match (as per thread title)
10/10/2007, 1:58 PM
paul_oshea

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Originally Posted by Dodge

He didn't say that. he said it didn't happen at an EL match (as per thread title)

Ok, thats being pedantic, as it is related to the EL i.e. its fans, who caused trouble on their way to the match - according to the source.
10/10/2007, 2:04 PM
Dodge

Quote:

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

Ok, thats being pedantic, as it is related to the EL i.e. its fans, who caused trouble on their way to the match -

which kdjac acknowledged

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdjac

It wasnt at the match it was a protestant pub that was attacked nothing to do with football in this country but done by fans of football in this country

Not going to speak for him but I presume he was answerinf rebs query about why anyone would attack Derry City fans, with the answer being they didn't...
10/10/2007, 2:04 PM
pateen

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Originally Posted by rebs23

That nearly makes it worse. Sectarian attacks by (so called) Bohs supporters?

I know there is a ? there rebs23 but was it actually bohs supporters or was it local prodys taunting locals/dubs. Whats the real sceal?
10/10/2007, 2:08 PM
ForzaHoop

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7037422.stm
10/10/2007, 2:14 PM
pete

Was this Bohs fans?

:confused:
10/10/2007, 2:15 PM
don ramo

thats just c**p, you cant even sit down enjoying a pint without some moron throwning a rock through a window, doesnt matter if there "real" fans, there fans associated with the club and should be monitored by other member of the club, not hard to do, just two people of the lot stand up and tell these idiots to stop acting the b*****ks, never an excuse to throw rock through a window not knowing how many are on the other side of it,

nationwide bans should be put on these people, they should never be allowed enter an eircom league ground again, no point in there club banning them, as theyll just go to away games, there own club is pushing the problem onto another club, i know shels do we had 6 fans that are banned from tolka down in our place trying to start trouble thankfully no body took up there offer, the rest were very friendly and even said they were sick of these morons being assocaiated with there club,
10/10/2007, 2:18 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by don ramo

thats just c**p, you cant even sit down enjoying a pint without some moron throwning a rock through a window, doesnt matter if there "real" fans, there fans associated with the club and should be monitored by other member of the club, not hard to do, just two people of the lot stand up and tell these idiots to stop acting the b*****ks, never an excuse to throw rock through a window not knowing how many are on the other side of it

But this was just "southerners" attacking a prodestant pub. How can anyone prove it was related to football? There's no way Bohs can stop (nor shoudl they) anyone with a hint of a criminal record (outside of football) from entering their ground...
10/10/2007, 2:28 PM
lofty9

I wouldn't know what to believe here. I have heard two sides to the story locally. I find it hard to believe that any fans would set out to find this pub looking for bother. I reckon they stumbled upon it looking for the Oakgrove only to be told where to go by the locals, then it probably kicked off.
10/10/2007, 2:30 PM
Raheny Red

Did many of them gain entry to the ground?
10/10/2007, 2:33 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by Rogue Trader

Unless it is for a pevious football related crime !

Which is why I put it (outside of football) :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
10/10/2007, 2:35 PM
don ramo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dodge

But this was just "southerners" attacking a prodestant pub. How can anyone prove it was related to football? There's no way Bohs can stop (nor shoudl they) anyone with a hint of a criminal record (outside of football) from entering their ground...

i didnt say southeners, if they were associated with a club and go to games on a regular basis they should be banned from all grounds, if they were arrested and charged, you cant go to other towns vandalise it and not get punnished, or do it in your locality, there associated with there club and are not being a good supporter by givin there club a bad name, and you cant be unleashing them on other clubs either
if it wasnt football fans fair enough but by the report it was
10/10/2007, 2:37 PM
btid1

Quote:

Originally Posted by don ramo

thats just c**p, you cant even sit down enjoying a pint without some moron throwning a rock through a window, doesnt matter if there "real" fans, there fans associated with the club and should be monitored by other member of the club, not hard to do, just two people of the lot stand up and tell these idiots to stop acting the b*****ks, never an excuse to throw rock through a window not knowing how many are on the other side of it,

nationwide bans should be put on these people, they should never be allowed enter an eircom league ground again, no point in there club banning them, as theyll just go to away games, there own club is pushing the problem onto another club, i know shels do we had 6 fans that are banned from tolka down in our place trying to start trouble thankfully no body took up there offer, the rest were very friendly and even said they were sick of these morons being assocaiated with there club,

I have never read such unadulterated bull**** in my life.So the gist of what you are saying here is that Bohs members should escort these so called "fans" all over the country everywhere they go making sure they dont get into or cause any bother!!!

This is an issue for the Gardai/PSNI.If what is being claimed did happen how the hell is it anything to do with Bohemian FC.It happened miles from any ground and these people were not wearing club colours.It is an issue of public order not a footballing related incident!

The logic of some people on this board baffles me....
10/10/2007, 2:37 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by don ramo

i didnt say southeners

The owner of the bar did. He also said he "heard they were up for the match"

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