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On the last word today the Ps2 game manhunt 2 has been banned from ireland !! . WTF is going on they are saying that its not the same as putting an 18 cert on a voilent movie like Hostel because kids will still get the game .
Now i had manhunt 1 which was a really poor game that only sold on the back of its voilent content , manhunt 2 would have prob sold a fe wcopies then dissapeared . But with this banning they have prob doubled the sales figures . And people will just buy it online anyway
Will GTA 4 be next I wonder?
Heard something about this earlier but didn't catch the name of the game. It's banned in the UK too. Did they give specific reasons for the ban? It must be something incredibly extreme given the current relaxed views on cencorship.Quote:
Originally Posted by anto1208
I had the game a few years back and the violence was extreme. You had to hide in the dark and shut on your victims. The deadliest killing I can remember was suffocating the victim with a plastic bag. Banning it is ridiculous though, just make sure it's only available to 18+ :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by passinginterest
Absolute horse**** in my opinion. Listen to the anti-gaming lobby and they'll tell you GTA, Manhunt etc. are whats responsible for the kids of today being out of control, then listen to their pathetic attempts at justifing this stance. If a game is given an 18s cert then its shouldn't be sold to anyone under 18, legally this should be enough. I've worked in HMV and Virgin and I've refused (against my better judgement) to sell GTA to kids of 13/14/etc. because I know the trouble it could cause. But besides that all of this anti-game hysteria just shifts the real blame for kids being involved in crime away from their own parents.
I remember after ManHunt 1 had been released some British teenager got stabbed to death and they tried to blame it on the game, saying it gave the murdering teenager pyschotic thoughts, I mean where do you start trying to have a discussion with someone who believes that?
I don't agree with the banning but how do you keep it away from under 18s? You can't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raheny Red
On the radio today the censor (film censor) who banned it even said that the guy in that case never even played Manhunt 1. Of course he was still asked about it so people will always believe these stories once the media publicises them (Marilyn Manson - Columbine; OldBoy - Virginia Tech shootings).Quote:
Originally Posted by jebus
The reason given for the banning was that the violence in the game is pretty gratuitious without a storyline to give it context, so maybe future GTA games will be OK.
At least the latest film censor is a bit more connected to reality than the last guy. Still can't believe that Natural Born Killers and From Dusk Til Dawn were deemed unfit to be viewed by Irish people.:rolleyes:Quote:
The Film Censor, John Kelleher, claims the game features gross levels of manipulation and torture.
Mr Kelleher said he recognises that in some films or video games strong graphic violence may be a justifiable element within the overall context of the work. However, he said that in the case of this game, there was no context and the brutality was unrelenting and gratuitous
The game with the plastic bag was manhunt 1 , it was sold on the back of the voilent attacks the game itself bored the arse off me within a day or 2 .
GTA4 won t get banned they said ( and to be fair to him they dont ban much ) that this game was purely based on killing , where as a game like GTA has killing but its not the sole purpose of the game and its not ment to be as bad . See this is what i mean i havent seen the game but they are making it sound great :eek:
They where on abou tit this morning and made the claim that its fine for normal people to play these games but what if someone with mental tendencies played them and it sent them over the edge . My answer is anything could do that was it Charls manson that listened the the beatles and thought they told him to send all his buddies out murdering !!!
ID played Mario as a kid and I didn’t end up eating mushrooms and jumping on turtles ………………………………..i just watched TV ;) :D
Are you sure??? Turtle jumping is a scourge on societyQuote:
Originally Posted by anto1208
shhh ive gotten away with it for this long .Quote:
Originally Posted by BohsPartisan
I also played duck hunt and never shot a duck afterwards
Well, what I meant was only sell it to 18+ after that if there parent thinks it ain't too bad then they can go buy it for their child.Quote:
Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge
They can try doing that but it wouldn't work. Just look at off licenses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raheny Red
Well it would be funny to asked by some 15 year 'here, mistur will ya go in and buy us the Playstation 2 game Manhunt, sound?' :DQuote:
Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge
I saw on Sky News earlier that a Law and Order games has been banned for having an image of Jamie Bolger being kidnapped in it.
I find it very strange that the producers of Law and Order would link themselves to something like that. It is a pretty serious show.
I honestly don't know what's so offensive about it.
The game in question Manhunt is for the Wii and the emphasis is to kill by using the wiimote as a weapon ie a knife or club. So ehh repeated stabbing actions or throat cutting :eek:
Granted its for adults but means nothing to parents who will buy what ever game will babysit their kids for long periods. Irish just taking the easy out and following the UK. The game looks ****e and is just violence for sake of it. Instead of banning games they should focus on not letting kids play them and enfore the ratings system.
How many times have you seen a kid being a refused a game and theng etting their parents to buy it for them?
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That's the parents' fault, and they should be held accountable. Doesn't mean adults should be denied it.
From what I've heard, Manhunt 2 is a sick piece of ****, but that doesn't mean I agree with banning it - far from it.
That Law & Order Bolger thing sounds a bit off though. I mean, wtf?
I don't know; I can't think of a single valid reason to promote or encourage such activities, especially with the fact that the Wii means you act out the movements. People will complain hysterically about nanny states, but there surely comes a time when people need to be protected from themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
That said, I can't imagine what sort of person would have a low enough level of intellect to find something like this fun.
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Originally Posted by pineapple stu
where do you draw the line no world war 2 games shooting some one or stabbing them in those games is just as voilent , do you ban films like hostel .
There is more blood and gore on the 6 oclock news than in any of these games the difference is thats real this is fantasy .
I had no interest in it but now they have raised my expectations ill get it on import it will be cheaper anyway
It's a good point alright. I suppose war games create less fuss because they're based on real life. Can I sit on the fence and say that, while there is presumably a line to be drawn somewhere, it would be so far removed from this game to not make any difference to my point?
You don't see people screaming in pain as their throat is slashed on the evening news.
ridiculous decision. then again we live in an ireland where playboy is restricted to 999 copies throughtout ireland and a casual hash smoker can be convicted for longer than a pederast.
whether or not the game is your cup of tea, or if you think it'd be fun or not, it is no more gory than a lot of movies, eg Saw. we're going down a ridiculous path, and i think the fact is that someone is gunning for GTA4. the same company makes "Bully", which was banned, remade and renamed to Canis Canem Edit (Dog Eat Dog). Now they've banned Manhunt, by the same company, on dubious grounds.
If parents are stupid enough to buy their kids a gory game, thats their own issue. Claiming "sure they'll get it by whinging" is no more an excuse than saying kids will ask for beer or porn.