Starting 11 v Wales

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23/03/2007, 12:23 PM
Scram

Starting 11 v Wales

Probable: (knowing that like every other Muppet we've had managing us, he'll go with the easy option i.e. as you were, if Carr wasn't injured, he'd be right back of course )

4-4-2

Given

Finnan,Dunne,McShane, O'Shea

Ireland,Carlsley,Kilbane,Duff

Keane,Doyle

This is not too bad, but I wouldn't play a strict 4-4-2. I would not have O'Shea in the starting line up and would even prefer Harte but I would still be optimistic that this team can do well.

I would also take a chance on Hunt as a starter probably dropping Kilbane to the bench. However, the Carlsley Kilbane combo should be strong and no harm in starting like this, but if no inroads are made he has to put on Hunt and/or McGeady.

Irealnd's not doing great at Man City at the moment either and Hunt for Ireland in the above would be another option worh considering. Duff is way off his best and hopefully can pick it up v Wales and I am expecting him to take the opportunity to do so.

Ideally though, he has the gumption to take O'Shea off if he puts in his usual half-hearted lack lustre display in the green jersey.

Stan has said "we need to win our home games, and this is a home game, so we need to win it" just to clarify to those of us that thought that because it wasn't at Lansdowne that it could be an away game I guess!

Anyway - GET BEHIND STAN AND THE TEAM TOMORROW BIGTIME NO FCUKIN BOOS EXCEPT FOR THE DELANEY MUPPET
23/03/2007, 12:44 PM
citizenerased

he wont play ireland on the right thats for sure, he 'll either play duff or mcgeady there. I think he will go for carsley and ireland/Kilbane in the centre..
23/03/2007, 1:05 PM
kingdom hoop

emmet malone(irish times) seems to suggest a probable line up of;

given
finnan, dunne, o'shea, harte
duff, carsley, ireland, kilbane
keane, doyle

i'd put my money on the above team being named. variable would appear to be mcshane into CB, with o'shea diplacing ireland or harte
23/03/2007, 1:08 PM
BaZmO*

Quote:

Originally Posted by citizenerased

he wont play ireland on the right thats for sure, he 'll either play duff or mcgeady there. I think he will go for carsley and ireland/Kilbane in the centre..

Stan's confirmed that Ireland will start.
23/03/2007, 1:09 PM
citizenerased

kilbane should not start anyway!!
23/03/2007, 1:29 PM
lionelhutz

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingdom hoop

emmet malone(irish times) seems to suggest a probable line up of;

given
finnan, dunne, o'shea, harte
duff, carsley, ireland, kilbane
keane, doyle

i'd put my money on the above team being named. variable would appear to be mcshane into CB, with o'shea diplacing ireland or harte

oh god - please don't be this team! Harte, O'shea and Kilbane - what a disaster that would be. We'd have nothing down our left and our defence would be dodgy, especially against bellamy's pace
23/03/2007, 1:33 PM
eirebhoy

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingdom hoop

emmet malone(irish times) seems to suggest a probable line up of;

given
finnan, dunne, o'shea, harte
duff, carsley, ireland, kilbane
keane, doyle

Is McShane not fit? If he is then that is another disgraceful decision by Stan. The reason O'Shea played relatively well against Czechs is because McShane was beside him. Dunne isn't really the type that'll organise the defence and tell O'Shea where to be going. It has to be Dunne and McShane otherwise I fear for us.
23/03/2007, 1:35 PM
paudie

I definitely think Hunt should start.

He has looked an agressive, busy player everytime I've seen him play. Reminds me of Ray Houghton.
Kilbane is willing but very limited.
23/03/2007, 1:43 PM
macdermesser

HARTE!!!

threads with he is world class .. and now this

I know football is about opinions .. etc etc and not to attack the poster .. but anyone who seriously thinks that Harte should be in the team, needs their heads examined.
23/03/2007, 1:45 PM
Paddy Garcia

Quote:

Originally Posted by macdermesser

I know football is about opinions .. etc etc and not to attack the poster .. but anyone who seriously thinks that Harte should be in the team, needs their heads examined.

Well...... he is building for the future!!
23/03/2007, 2:04 PM
Torn-Ado

My team would be:

Given

Finnan
Dunne
O Dea
Harte

McGeady
Ireland
Carsley
Duff

Keane
Doyle

Goalkeeper, obvious. The backline is strong except for Harte but he is a lot better than O Shea and can be useful at the set piece. McGeady and Duff out wide as they can take players on and are decent going back. I'd have Carsley in the holding role. He will be vital tommorow and hopefully he will break up the attack and let Ireland go forward. I cannot stand Robbie Keane but maybe he might score a goal or two and not routinely scuff them.

The team likely to play:

Given

Finnan
Dunne
McShane
O Shea

Duff
Ireland
Carsley
Kilbane

Doyle
Keane
23/03/2007, 2:05 PM
kingdom hoop

Quote:

Originally Posted by macdermesser

HARTE!!!

threads with he is world class .. and now this

I know football is about opinions .. etc etc and not to attack the poster .. but anyone who seriously thinks that Harte should be in the team, needs their heads examined.

it's based on robson saying harte was doing really well at training, though given it is robson it could equally have been finnan doing well:rolleyes:

o'shea is a golden boy in management's eyes so i'd be amazed if he didnt start, somewhere. if ireland is definitely starting then it's either left back for sheasy or mcshane doesnt start, one would imagine.

as much as i'd like to see hunt be given his head(no pun intended) kilbane will probably make his 42nd consecutive appearance:(
23/03/2007, 2:06 PM
Kingdom

What I hate about threads like these is that the Subject is open to debate. Do you put the team you want to see selected or the team we believe the manager will select.

I think he'll select

Given
Finnan --- Dunne --- O'Shea --- Harte
Duff --- Carsley --- Ireland --- Kilbane
Keane -- Doyle

Team I would pick

Given
Finnan -- Dunne -- McShane -- O'Dea
McGeady -- Carlsey -- Douglas -- Duff
Keane -- Doyle

I am a fan of KK's ultimately because regardless of things are going around him or for him, he God honestly tries his heart out and wants to do well. Plus he's a giant. We have a small team. Realistically its himself Dunne and O'Shea for all setpieces. If he plays tomorrow watch how many headers he willwin from Shay's kick outs.
Having said that, we know are in a position with Dunne, McShane, ODea if he was selected, Doyle and Douglas as options in the box. Remember it was a clattering Douglas header that set up the goal against the Czechs. As we know we have better options on the left going forward than Kilbane now, and if the deficiencies which he covers are removed from the other areas of the team then there is no place for him currently.
I would like to see Douglas given a run out. This game will be a war and two ruff and tumble players in the middle will be of use, particularily if our two skillful outlets are on the wing in Duff and McGeady. I'm not convinced by Stephen Ireland and I'm convinced he can flourish in a 4 man midfield for us.
23/03/2007, 2:27 PM
Dublin12

I think he'll select

Given
Finnan --- Dunne --- O'Shea --- Harte
Duff --- Carsley --- Ireland --- Kilbane
Keane -- Doyle

My team

Given

Finnan--Dunne--O'Dea--McShane

Hunt--Carsley--Duff

Keane(always ends up playing here anyway)

Stokes-- Doyle
23/03/2007, 2:29 PM
NeilMcD

Where are people getting the idea that Mc Shane is a left back.
23/03/2007, 2:31 PM
Dublin12

Probably the same people that thought McGrath or Lawerson were midfielders
23/03/2007, 2:33 PM
NeilMcD

I don't see the link. Mc Shane is a right footed up and at them centre back who is good in the air but is not the most mobile. He has filled in at right back for West Brom this season. How does that translate that he should start left back against Wales.
23/03/2007, 2:35 PM
Scram

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeilMcD

Where are people getting the idea that Mc Shane is a left back.

Where do people get the idea that Mc and O are interchangeable ;)

Ooh ah Paul o Grath
23/03/2007, 2:37 PM
Kingdom

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeilMcD

I don't see the link. Mc Shane is a right footed up and at them centre back who is good in the air but is not the most mobile. He has filled in at right back for West Brom this season. How does that translate that he should start left back against Wales.

Apologies Neil I was to have Odea at left back and MCShane in the middle where he did wonderfully against the Czechs.
23/03/2007, 2:57 PM
tetsujin1979

Looks like Ireland is starting, presumably alongside Carsley: http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=c...k=view&id=1851

Quote:

Staunton confirmed that the presence of Ireland at the conference signified his intention of starting the 20 years old Manchester City player in midfield.

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