Seriously, i really fcuking hate him or her ! :mad:
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Seriously, i really fcuking hate him or her ! :mad:
I pay tax in Ireland and I don't even live there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roo69
I also pay Council Tax etc. in England.
The various services wont pay for themselves so I've no problem paying tax.
It's wasters who claim off the state because they're total wasters that really get to me.
Don't waste your time on him/her, just hate Bertie, he's ruining (not running) this country. Just watch him the next time you see him on the TV, he'll either be reading a pre-written speech, written by somebody with an IQ of over 80, or he'll be actually saying nothing except politican speak that really doesn't mean anything. :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Roo69
Seriously, you would hate him/her/bertie if you just paid what i did on tax today ! I should not have had to pay that amout of tax no matter what, i dont mind paying tax, as you say it goes towards "trying" to run our country but it is disgusting what i had to pay out. a very bitter sweet pay check.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peadar
delighted to see ray burke goin to jail for not payin tax
just felt it was some what relavant to the topic roo69
Oh it is indeed. Should have been for longer thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by $Leon$
Ray Burke should definitely have gotten more time.
My old man has the dubious job of working with the Revenue Commisioners and he hates his employer with a passion.
Interesting to here Bertie back tracking from his support, saying he had no way of knowing. Eh Bertie, how about Albert telling you he was dodgy and he wouldn't (and didn't) have him in his cabinet? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by $Leon$
Very funny listening to the speech again the other night where he implies the press are hounding an innocent man... :D
I'm not standing up for Burke but how many other tax evaders have seen jail time?
There's a lot of gloating over "same rules apply to everyone now" going on as well. I'm not convinced people would have the same opinions on paying tax of they were getting cash-in-hand or the likes on nixers, summerjobs, etc. :rolleyes:
I think the big difference with Burke is that he didn't avail (Berties) of numerous tax amnesties which meant jail inevitable...?
Or that he did avail but in a taking the p!ss sort of way in that he declared damn all of his finances in the 1993 one
Not enough, especially those that didn't pay tax on undeclared bribes. However, wasn't there a Cork farmer who went down for 2 years recently for similar tax offences?Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
Magoo, a huge difference between a nixer and a corrupt payment to an elected representative, to influence planning decisions. Not even Conor would try and argue that (okay he probably would, but would still be wrong)....
Ray Burke was jailed for tax evasion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macy
On money he received for what?Quote:
Originally Posted by Magoo
I pay no tax whatsoever ha ha the joys of student life :p
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Originally Posted by joey B
also music composers in ireland pay zip income tax
My point is that he was jailed for not paying his taxes and many people (i mean in general, not necessarily on this MB) are being all high and mighty about how what he did is indeed a serious crime, yet the same people dodge tax payments on a regular basis. This i know to be true. I have put the facts to them and they invariably reply by referring to the amounts of money involved. This goes against the 'one law for all' way of thinking.
With regard to the reasons he got the money, they are quite sickening and he surely does deserve what he gets in whatever roundabout way. But even to take a moral high ground on this is perhaps unfair because, taking previous example of nixers, often means you are in some way either doing your employer out of business, using their property for your own financial gain or using company time to work on the nixer.This is not always the case of course. I point this out, though, to illustrate the similarites between RB and Joe Soap. He was jailed for taxes (okay, he was breaking other rules as well). Someone doing a nixer is probably not paying taxes and very often is breaking other rules also. Might be food for thought for some people.
Okay, so what am i saying? RB shouldn't be jailed? No, i think more effort should be put into nailing these gits for corruption which is a far more serious crime than not paying taxes IMHO. In fairness to people of that generation, tax evasion was pretty much par for the course during the periods the tax was evaded so I'm not a big fan of convicting people on this usinmg modern standards.
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Originally Posted by joey B
Enjoy it while you can.
You'll probably spend more than twice as many years paying tax than you've been alive already.
Didn't Burke cliam he kept 50k or something for election expenses yet never actually spent the cash?
AFAIK Burkes case was that he was more or else being accused of fraud (bribe monies) & since they couldn't prove that he getting done for not declaring that cash.
There should be a proper National fraud squad - Politics/Business actively invested on anythjing from bribery, corruption to anti-competition parctices.
Interestingly wasn't there a report last week that said a large percentage of people were over-taxed in 2003?