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A thread to facilitate general discussion around our now official odyssey to Euro 2012.
Seedings confirmed:
Seedings for Euro 2012
Pot 1: Spain, Netherlands, Poland, Ukraine.
Pot 2: Germany, Italy, England, Russia.
Pot 3: Croatia, Greece, Portugal, Sweden.
Pot 4: Denmark, France, Czech Republic, Republic of Ireland
The permutations of the above all very interesting.
Poland, Italy and Greece anyone???
Or how about Spain, Germany and Portugal :sweat:
I'd take Spain over Holland anyday. Holland would tear us apart, Northern Ireland and Scotland have recently frustrated Spain so can we.
For me though, I'd to go for Poland, Italy and Sweden. I think there would be every chance of topping that group.
I have just thing to say
WOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
Ok sorry. That is all.
i think the best group for us would be this, we would have a good chance of getting into the top two. its going to be tough if we dont get a decent draw.
poland/ukraine
italy (eng as 2nd choice)
greece
ireland.
Spain, Italy, Greece, Ireland.
A potential "Group of Debt" there.
Calm down. Its not as if we've actually qualified for anything yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by elroy
Hang on...
Its us in a major finals. Holland have to be involved somewhere in the story. Its like, the law or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Poland/Italy/Sweden sounds like a decent group to me. A good mix of glamour and grind.
I wouldnt normally want to get the hosts, but its either that or Spain/Holland. Poland do seem to be a good option.
Italy we've got history with and i'd fancy us to really raise our game. Would be a real occasion. Contrast that with all the hype, expectation and tension that would come from a game v england.
Never sure what to make of Greece, something tells me we'd struggle to break them down? Sweden are also a bit so-so, solid but unspectacular? So i favour them, just.
.....thereby completely contradicting myself on another thread, where i suggested that i'd rather avoid Sweden because of the WC14 qualifiers on the horizon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tipp Townie
You'll forgive me if my brain isn't working that well today.
If I had a euro for every time I've heard the Group of Debt gag, I'd have enough money to bail out all the PIGS, clear the US federal debt, feed the starving in Africa and subsidise the North for a year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
And pay my TV license (lol, not really, lol)
If the teams were sorted into cultural/gegraphical type groups we could have
1 Spain,Italy,Portugal & France
2 Holland,Germany, Sweden & Denmark
3 Ukraine, Russia, Croatia & Czech Rep.
Leaving us with Poland England & Greece which I'd be pleased enough with.
I've been all for getting Poland from the first seeds, until I remembered that during their atrocious Wc2010 campaign they tore us a new one in Croker, absolutely obliterating us down the wings. That was the night the SS formed. I'd still fancy them over the others (well maybe not Ukraine, but I think we'll have a higher number of fans if we're in Poland).
Is anyone else as confused as I am now that we've qualified? After every campaign and two matches a month, I've gotten used to be disappointed and just getting mentally ready for friendlies in February and the next campaign and Qualifiers next fall. Now that thats not the case its like my brain I doesn't know what to think. :confused: My memories of 2002 are pretty fleeting (except for the end of the Spain match which is indelibly ingrained) so I can't tell if this is normal. All of the sudden it seems so long ago.
Think we have the ability to fustrate teams especially if we defend well .
Need to be a bit more of a threat going forward i think if we want to get out of the group.
Don't have any preference with who we get in the group stages, just delighted that we are going to be apart of a major championships after all the setbacks over the last 10 years.
Kevin Palmers article. Caution: Contains "Group of Debt" line.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story/_/id/984386/kevin-palmer:-joyous-ireland-earn-%3Ci%3Ecraic%3C/i%3E-at-euros?cc=5901
As long as we avoid Spain in pot 1 id be happy. Id be confident of us getting a result of Holland. Obivously if we got Poland or Ukraine it would be great news.
This joke is getting old. Come on Mr A, you're better than that!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
If we can avoid Germany at all costs I would be happy enough. After that I don't care because inevitably we will get the Dutch.
I'm also concerned at the idea of getting a host nation due to the way referees ref their games. I'm sure Trap is dreading that too. Still though.
Ukraine, England, Greece please...
From a personal point of view Im gonna be on my knees praying for anyone but Portugal... Girlfriend Portuguese and a bigger football nut than me so my life wont be worth living if they beat us :)
Dear God, I hope we'll be situated in Poland. Everything about Ukraine, seems to suggest it will be a logistical nightmare for fans.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...307706516.html
First post!
Would like to avoid Germany mainly. Ireland are difficult to be effective against but I think Germany have the tools to pick us apart at will. Lots of people here hoping for Poland. They'll be on a high with massive support in their own stadiums. Not a doddle by any means.
I'd kind of fancy Spain. We'd be massive underdogs. We might well frustrate them, and a point would be a massive success. They'd also most likely beat everyone in the group leaving a clearer battle for second spot.
England or Holland would make it a nightmare to get tickets, but that's just from a selfish perspective.
I'm not sure we have enough of a cutting edge to get 3 points against what will be a very frustrating Greece side.
My group (based in Poland)
Spain - Russia - Sweden - Ireland