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and other emotions beginning with 'd'. Sorry to drag everybody down but I can't get beyond this. There's a couple of threads on Euro 2012 but I just can't raise the appetite. I can't climb back on the hope treadmill this time. For me the agency of our disappointment doesn't really matter, it's the inevitibility of it. Does anybody know how to switch it off, this supporting Ireland business? We've all got lives to be getting on with. Why does it matter so much?
Lay off the booze for a couple of days.
Coming home from Paris, I genuinely believed I would watch no football this weekend, and possibly for the rest of the week.
Yet here I am at 1:25 in the morning trying to track down footage of Connolly and Hoolahan's goals in the Norwich - Southampton game and correcting a report on soccerrepublic.net (this one - http://soccerrepublic.eircom.net/New...ontingent.aspx - if you're interested)
Wednesday's result still hurts, and it's quite possible I won't ever forgive Henry, but I'm a football fan first and foremost and godammit I need my fix!
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Yet here I am at 1:25 in the morning trying to track down footage of Connolly and Hoolahan's goals in the Norwich - Southampton game and correcting a report on soccerrepublic.net .
That, my friend, is above and beyond the call. Or perhaps you're just plain shlootered. Fair play.
Partly because you invest so much time and emotion into it. Also, perhaps the pain is so numbing because your expectations of sport are inappropriate.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwenGoal
By all means engross yourself in sporting pursuits; think about them, look forward to them, act them, live them, and look back upon them. But all the while, try to keep a sense of perspective and realism. Realise sport is often fantastic, but also, it is often despairing. That is its nature, it is why it's so beguiling. Also, have the perspective that it is not life or death. It won't kill you in a car crash, and it won't even flood the home you've invested so much in.
Overall though, time heals. Maybe as you gradually experience more fun trivialities and daily normalities, then eventually the pain will lessen and subside.
Take a break for a while. Hunger is a renewable resource. :)Quote:
There's a couple of threads on Euro 2012 but I just can't raise the appetite.
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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Quality post...the football league show on BBC1 after match of the day is a great way to see all the goals..great to see Behan,O Flynn an other ex LOI players getting a few aswell.
keep the head up.
many across europe sharing your pain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdeMaUrL4Jw
Some strong words.
It usually takes about a week to get it to the back of the mind (1977 Bulgaria, France 79, Belgium 81 and now France 09). Kicks in again when the draw is made for a day or so. Then kicks in again when the World Cup proper starts for a day or so. But we are on the rise again so there is much to be happy about. We have a very good manager who knows what he is doing. Our players are good enough to get us to Euro2012. And Irish fans can have a spring in their step again because we are improving.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwenGoal
This is a good post.
I think the thing is, in sports usually you get another chance after a brief offseason. But 4 years seems like so long to Rio.
Euro 2012 like the above mentioned seems sooner but in the back of our heads we know the fun of SA comes first.
It is depressing and coupled with the winter i think it hits hard.
Imagine if we dont make Euro. Then imagine looking at Rio. At best it will be 12 years in between tourneys. 12 years? Jesus. Who are we, Luxenburg?
With that said I have to root for my country now so be grateful. Ever hear of Clint Dempsey? OR a team with a starter named Bradley who is the son of the coach? Ugh....
Absolutely excellent. Very rarely are these things funny but that had me laughing out loud. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by rebus2008
BTW, bit too much Cotes du Rhone when I started this thread.
Thursday and Friday were Hell!! I was a tortured Soul, I wasn't interested in work or small talk I just wanted to crawl up in bed and wake up the day after the World Cup Final, all the time I asked myself why are you beating yourself up over a Football match! its hard to explain really but as one poster put it you attach yourself emotionally to the team and when something as unfair and injust happens on Wednesday night its hard not to be affected by it....
But Time will pass and we'll move on, Wednesday will always be remembered as long as I live as both triumph and tragedy...But when the first ball is kicked in Euro Qualifiers It will truly be buried in the Vault!!!!
I wouldn't be so confident of that.
We've basically been defrauded of a strong possibility of a place in the WC by a player and a referee team as well as Domenech's refusal to replay the match.
So come the end of the Euro qualifying we may again be in a similar position and a similiar two legged match with a similiar big team, if UEFA go down the seeding route which they probably will.
We may well end up in a tight game with the ref feeling the pressue to side with the big team, and he may know if he allows a dodgy goal, the powers that be will side with him.
These things have a habit of repeating themselves. It's not the first time Ireland has been denied qualification because of dodgy refereeing decisions and cheating and it probably won't be the last.
As long as there is so much at stake, and with one person officiating in the middle with no assistance from modern technology, the temptation will be for some to cheat and for refs to turn a blind eye to it.
thought so!......wasn't being flippant with my first reply:DQuote:
Originally Posted by OwenGoal
Speaking of despair & dejection, think of how bad Dr_Peepee must be feeling after Wednesday night AND Jermaine Defoe scoring 5 goals.
Glad to see I'm not the only one in this situation. Keep telling myself to get some perspective.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwenGoal
At the moment all football seems trivial. Didn't even watch any Premier League all weekend or the Cup Final today despite being in on detox for the most of it (following the week of booze). Don't want to think about the Euros. Its all pointless in the context of last Wednesday.
I know, I know how melodramatic, nobody died, get over it etc. There are far far more important things in the world....There certainly are, but without meaning to sound shallow, in honesty they aren't personally relevant so its difficult to be so moved.
Couple more days should do it anyway.
Worst than any other Irish exit from a major competition I can ever remember...but getting slowly over it today for first time..those flashbacks are the worst, funnily enough its not the handball but the one that got away from Duffer in second half....Quote:
Originally Posted by Beavis
Spain 2002 was quite bad but definitely not as bad as this. Belgium 97 is another that sticks out for me as quite painful, not to mention Holland 88. Man we've had some horrors in the last 25 years. The cheated element is the worst part, although Spain 02 and France 09 are similar in the sense we shouldve had the game won in both cases.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reality Bites
Was thinking at the wkd, in the last 20 years, we've made 3 out of the 6 world cups, reached at least the second round in each case. The other three we didnt qualify for, we lost in playoffs twice (Belgium, France). So all in all not a bad record. With a bit of luck we could easily have made 5 out of the 6. Its our Euros record that needs improving.
RB thinking the same i came to the conclusion that duffers miss cost us the qualifcation.
I'm off to the Playschool to tell some kids there's no Santy..Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
I felt much worse after the end of Stan's campaign. The amount of negativity then was really dispiriting, people saying we didn't have the players, might never qualify for anything ever again etc. I didn't believe either but it was very depressing to listen to it.
As I get older the years go by all the quicker and before we know it we'll be kicking off in our first qualifier and I wouldn't like to be our first opposition.