Caoimhín Kelleher GK Brentford b.1998

Contract situation aside, if Kelleher gets 25 games a season at Liverpool, I think that is a perfectly good situation. He managed 26 last season and he’s probably on course to do the same this season.

He’s playing in the premier league, the champions league - genuinely contributing to Liverpool potentially winning a title. Important games against Arsenal, Chelsea, Villa, Leverkusen and Leipzig. It’s all high end stuff.

Say for example if he signs with West Ham in the summer, it’s twice as many games but it’s a huge step down for him

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Originally Posted by elatedscum

Contract situation aside, if Kelleher gets 25 games a season at Liverpool, I think that is a perfectly good situation. He managed 26 last season and he’s probably on course to do the same this season.

He’s playing in the premier league, the champions league - genuinely contributing to Liverpool potentially winning a title. Important games against Arsenal, Chelsea, Villa, Leverkusen and Leipzig. It’s all high end stuff.

Say for example if he signs with West Ham in the summer, it’s twice as many games but it’s a huge step down for him

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Absolutely. Everything realistically is a step down for him when he leaves Liverpool. Lots more games for him.but as you say likely never the high end high stakes games with a world wide focus that he has had at Liverpool. What a career he has had at Liverpool

You'd have to wonder why Liverpool are not more keen to keep him really ? !

Kelleher has compiled impressive moments at Liverpool but labelling any move anticlimactic is pushing it. He has never been other than a substitute, his career reliant on the fitness of Alisson. But what a career he's had to date? Yes, but only thanks to Alisson being made of paper mache. Otherwise it’s the bench, his ambition being out of his hands.


Complicating matters is Mamardashvili’s arrival probably on a wage five times Kelleher's current £0.5m (capped) deal which expires next season. A fit Alisson and £30m Mamardashvili could tangle the swings and roundabouts. I cannot see sense in Kelleher staying beyond this season unless designated the No.1 with wages to match. Working down his contract gives him negotiation muscle but a season of mostly bench-warming would compromise that. It’s time, Caoimhin.

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Originally Posted by Snapshot

Kelleher has compiled impressive moments at Liverpool but labelling any move anticlimactic is pushing it. He has never been other than a substitute, his career reliant on the fitness of Alisson. But what a career he's had to date? Yes, but only thanks to Alisson being made of paper mache. Otherwise it’s the bench, his ambition being out of his hands.


Complicating matters is Mamardashvili’s arrival probably on a wage five times Kelleher's current £0.5m (capped) deal which expires next season. A fit Alisson and £30m Mamardashvili could tangle the swings and roundabouts. I cannot see sense in Kelleher staying beyond this season unless designated the No.1 with wages to match. Working down his contract gives him negotiation muscle but a season of mostly bench-warming would compromise that. It’s time, Caoimhin.

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That claim he earns half a million a year is nonsense. His previous deal was for £15k per week and that’s before the one he signed in 2021, which was supposed to be a significant pay rise.

My guess is it started at 35k per week and there’s an annual increase year on year, so he’s probably on 50k per week but could easily be more.

There are (American) websites who just make up figures for each player and it’s treated as gospel

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Originally Posted by seanfhear

You'd have to wonder why Liverpool are not more keen to keep him really ? !

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I'm sure they'd love to keep him but that involves signing a new contract and don't think he fancies signing a new contract.

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Originally Posted by liamoo11

What a career he has had at Liverpool

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One of the greats alright.

He’s super reliable for them and there’s never a hint that him being in the side weakens them at all. He clearly has the trust of some seriously good players. That’s a big compliment in itself. That said, I thought he was a bit flappy a couple of times last night. MOTD commentators said he made a great reaction save from a corner but I think he was a bit late to anticipate the ball coming to him myself. And he totally misread the next cross that came in. An earlier tip over the bar was pretty routine for a top flight game imho.

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Originally Posted by SkStu

One of the greats alright.

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They'll surely put a statue of him on a nice bench somewhere around the stadium, chilled, watching a good game.

He's the only Irish player getting game tile at a top PL club and winning plaudits from fans and pundits every week, and yet posters on this forum know better. He's a barely adequate flapper who has wasted his talent and should have followed the Bazunu path (probably second choice keeper, when fit, at a club destined to be relegated once again Laughable.)

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Originally Posted by SkStu

One of the greats alright.

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Has he not played in more big games for a top 3 Premier league side than any other irsh player in the last 10 years . Played in league cup finals played in champions league. Not many irish players have done all that in last 20 years surely that counts as a great career so far? If he had move to Preston 4 years ago I'm sure he would have 200 appearance s for them but woukd that be better than the career he has had at Liverpool in the last 4 years? I don't think it would

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Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke

They'll surely put a statue of him on a nice bench somewhere around the stadium, chilled, watching a good game.

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Strange attitude.

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Originally Posted by liamoo11

Has he not played in more big games for a top 3 Premier league side than any other irsh player in the last 10 years . Played in league cup finals played in champions league. Not many irish players have done all that in last 20 years surely that counts as a great career so far? If he had move to Preston 4 years ago I'm sure he would have 200 appearance s for them but woukd that be better than the career he has had at Liverpool in the last 4 years? I don't think it would

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He’s a fine keeper, the doubts I had have been almost fully put to bed over the last year. He’s got the Irish jersey now too and Bazunu will have to level up again to win it back. I’m delighted. But to bank your career on your competition getting injured is risky and questionable. I don’t love it. But like I said delighted it’s worked out for us.

Your last line in the post I quoted is a strange take which is why I quoted it. He’s a second choice keeper who’s taken advantage of the few opportunities handed to him through injury to Allison. A great career would be to have won the Liverpool jersey outright or moved to a less elite level (non Top 6) and proven himself as a number one there. That’s all I was questioning.

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Originally Posted by liamoo11

Strange attitude.

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Ah come on - that was very funny :D

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Originally Posted by third policeman

He's the only Irish player getting game tile at a top PL club and winning plaudits from fans and pundits every week, and yet posters on this forum know better. He's a barely adequate flapper who has wasted his talent and should have followed the Bazunu path (probably second choice keeper, when fit, at a club destined to be relegated once again Laughable.)

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I don’t think he’s a barely adequate flapper at all. Not sure if that was meant at me, because I mentioned a flap earlier. I think he’s a really good keeper who looks at home at the top of the PL and in the CL.

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Originally Posted by liamoo11

Strange attitude.

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Missed the humour maybe ?
What I found strange was trying to paint his time at Liverpool as a, what a career, type thing.
& that's from someone who thinks he's good enough and they are making a mistake if they let him move on.

That he has played more big games than any other Irish player in a decade speaks about Irish footballs ongoing low tide, not his club situation.

In fairness to Caoimhin, he had a really good relationship with Klopp and there was plenty of signs/suggestion that he was the long term replacement for Alisson. It's really only since Slot came in that the debate was ended and he fairly quickly signalled he was open to moving elsewhere.

If he doesn't start making waves next summer then that's a different story but I feel he's been very smart about his career choices to date and it's mostly paid off.

Thought myself that he should leave during this winter transfer window, not sure now, looks like he could collect a league winners medal which he will i
of have massively contributed to, if they do go on a win the league.

He might even grow on Slot as time goes by !

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Originally Posted by rebelmusic

In fairness to Caoimhin, he had a really good relationship with Klopp and there was plenty of signs/suggestion that he was the long term replacement for Alisson. It's really only since Slot came in that the debate was ended and he fairly quickly signalled he was open to moving elsewhere.

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I think a lot of that was just Klopp blowing smoke up his hole. He nearly didn't pick him for the League Cup final that time he ended up scoring the winning penalty, despite the League Cup being the one competition he was meant to be the keeper for. Used to leave him on the bench for dead rubber Champions League group games as well. I doubt Klopp ever saw him as a future first choice, he just saw a way to keep a good backup on side for as long as he was going to be there.

"First of all, Alisson needs to become fit,” Slot said in his press conference after the win.

“I have always been quite clear, that’s always been the position of Alisson.

“He is and will be our first goalkeeper if he is fit. But first he needs to be fit.

“But Caoimh has done outstanding, last season and this season again as well but the moment Alisson is fit, he will be our first goalkeeper.”

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Difficult reading for Ireland fans there ( particularly about such a Liverpool legend ) but there is an honesty and a decency to it that Klopp wouldn't show toward him.