note to self. never disagree with James McCarthy.
about anything.
ever.
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note to self. never disagree with James McCarthy.
about anything.
ever.
He won the ball. I thought a free against was harsh
Don't think it matters much if you win the ball or not, it just a matter of whether it is dangerous.
The results suggest it was.
Maybe so but collisions will happen regardless.
I think what it comes down to is intent.
He definitely had intent to win the ball but did he have intent to cause physical harm to the other player?
Well, the ref was closer than me so I'll have to take his word for it over mine
I am not to sure these days, it used to be if you got the ball it it was fine, then you were not allowed to
go in with two feet or something like that. But it seems to have gone full circle from virtually anything goes
to a hardly anything is allowed.
This is what FIFA says
Careless, reckless, using excessive force
“Careless” means that
the player has shown a lack of attention or consideration when making his challenge or that he acted without precaution:
no further disciplinary sanction is needed if a foul is judged to be careless
“Reckless” means that the player has acted with complete disregard of the danger to, or consequences for, his opponent:
a player who plays in a reckless manner shall be cautioned
"Using excessive force” means that the play has far exceeded the necessary use of force and is in danger ofinjuring his opponent:
a player who uses excessive force shall be sent off
Seems it was deemed reckless, I can see the logic in that. There was no intent to injury but an injury was likely.
It's only a flesh wound.
It looks like McCarthy left studs did the damage to scrape Junuzovic's left knee.
It's one of those tackles which requires to people, if James has got injured the ref would have booked the other player.
Wigan are doing it again. With their form and that of Southampton and Villa, it looks like it may be Reading, QPR and Sunderland that'll go down. Looks like being a fairly productive season for Mac with his progress with Ireland and hopefully an FA Cup Final as well.
Wigan always play great for the last ten matches or so of the season. I picked Kone and Maloney up for my fantasy team last week.
Reading are 1/20 to go down, and QPR are 1/5. Fair to say that there's not much chance of either of them surviving.
The eighteenth spot in the Premiership will be very interesting. Sunderland, Aston Villa, and Wigan (in that order) are next, and one of those three will almost certainly go down.
from betfair: Sunderland 2.7, Aston Villa 2.96, and Wigan, 3.15.
Sunderland going down would see McClean and O'Shea in the Championship, Villa would see Given and Clark, and Wigan McCarthy, though I'd be willing to bet he'd be snapped up immediately by a Premiership club like Liverpool or even Arsenal if they got relegated.
Other than Hull, can anyone give us a round-up of the Irish players likely to be promoted this May into the Premiership?
All here: http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Comp...ompetitionID=2
(need to update a few players though)
Many, many thanks for that link.
Showing plenty of attacking intent vs QPR but Wigan haven't made many chances.
QPR have been down to 10 men for most of the match after Phil Dowd decided to punish Bobby Zamora's high tackle not only with a red card but, according to the BBC report, by sentencing him to death.
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It's a straight red for Bobby Zamora. The striker's tackle was late and high, booting Jordi Gomez on the chops. Referee Phil Dowd discussed the challenge with his assistant Scott Ledger and decided to inflict the ultimate punishment on the former West Ham man.
I think Trap has a point on McCarthy and the need for the lad to impose himself on the game. At Wigan, he seems to play a more defensive role, letting the likes of McArthur and McManaman to do the attacking. Having said that he does alot of the 'simple stuff' very well, tracking back, five yard passes etc, the sort of stuff Roy Keane was exalted for. He does need to add the presence that Keane had to his game to be move to the next level.
From an Irish point of view, I think Wigan probably would be our choice to go down out of Sunderland, Villa and Wigan? Good chance McCarthy would end up back in the PL next season even if Wigan go down.
I think you have to get the balance right between attack and defence, I think
he is perhaps trying to get forward to much now or taking too big a risk where as in the past he
was perhaps doing the opposite. You see the goal they conceded here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OamnrGm2C0M
They should have at least one man back as an insurance policy, the risk they took pushing so many men
forward far out weighted any benefit they were going to get from having so many man forward IMO.
They are nearly caught out in a similar fashion a few minutes before that but it seems they learned no
lesson from that.
Manchester United keeping an eye on McCarthy, apparently: http://www.goal.com/en-ie/news/3912/...arlet-mccarthy
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Manchester United are monitoring highly-rated Wigan midfielder James McCarthy, Goal.com understands.
Scouts for the Premier League leaders have been tracking the progress of United loanee Angelo Henriquez at the DW Stadium this term but the 22-year-old Ireland international has also caught their eye.
Sir Alex Ferguson has been made aware of the midfielder's impressive performances for the relegation strugglers, and is keen to keep further tabs on the youngster believing him to have strong potential sell-on value, given his age.
The United boss is keen to accrue a group of talented youngsters to secure the club's long-term future at the top of the Premier League and McCarthy, who is thought to be available for around £10 million, would fit the ideal profile at Old Trafford.
McCarthy, who moved to Wigan from Hamilton Academical four years ago, signed a new five-year contract with the Latics in 2011, but Roberto Martinez is keen to conduct further talks regarding an extension to that deal in order to secure his future at the club.
The 22-year-old has become a pivotal member of Martinez's first-team squad at the DW Stadium, epitomising the club's attractive passing style alongside the likes of James McArthur and Jordi Gomez in the Wigan midfield.
Liverpool are also thought to be keeping tabs on the Ireland starlet, who has received 11 caps under Giovanni Trapattoni for the Boys in Green.
I could sort of see McCarthy slotting in to the United midfield, they do have some problems keeping that section of the pitch staffed. Giggs in CM against City didn't work out too well, Anderson is (reportedly) moving on, think Scholes is calling it quits again, Kagawa plays more forward anyway. They have Carrick and Cleverley though, so you'd wonder how many games McCarthy would get.
He'd never play another international friendly again so.
Unfortunately Roberto Martinez has a wife who was born a City supporter.
Prior business dealings too, with Valencia. I could see it happening, but I wouldn't think it would be the smartest move for him, Liverpool might be a better bet.
I wouldn't have any faith in goal.com as a source. And the guy who wrote the article has, in the past week alone, linked McCarthy with United, Kompany with Bayern Munich after a "bust-up" with manager Martinez and Goetze with all the top English clubs. Bull**** merchant, in other words.
But you did pre empt your post with a disclaimer and it wasn't a transfer rumour.
Goal links are fine if they're reporting what somebody else says, but they are not taken seriously by anybody so nobody credible is ever going to leak news to them.
My bad.
Not good enough. You're finished, Danny.
RIP DannyI.
Looks like you'll have to use up all your credits to avoid an imminent disgrace, Danny. You're back to zero :)
Still, you'd wonder if a higher profile club would take a punt on James, has he done enough this season to attract that type of attention?
I wouldn't say it's an issue of him needing to attract attention. By all accounts, Chelsea and Arsenal have been scouting him for a couple of years, and I'm sure Manchester United would be another one to keep an eye out. I think it's unlikely one of the those clubs will take a punt on him, but perhaps that's just my pessimistic nature not allowing me to believe an Irish player could make it at an elite club.
I remember when this thread first started and people were going on about Barcelona tracking him. Doesn't seem so foolish now.
Somehow I've had the 'feeling' all season that this would be his last with Wigan, regardless of their end season table position. That he needs to move onto a new challenge, different coaching etc. But I suppose something, sometime, has to happen to make that so.
I'd be curious to find out what coaches from top 5 or 6 clubs think about James, could he step up another level and play for them?
You'd swear he was some obscure 16 year old in Venezuela. I'm sure Ferguson has seen plenty of McCarthy himself. Also, if he is interested, I'm sure it's because he sees him as having the potential to control United's midfield for the next ten years, not to make a few quid off him.Quote:
Originally Posted by goal.com
James had a good game against Man City, it's just insane to think he was on the cards to be dropped against Sweden.
He shipped a nasty kick to the back of the shin from Tevez, he was limping for much of last 15 minutes.
I can't imagine he'll be at Plucky Little Wigan next season regardless of whether they stay up (I think they will, more comfortably than expected). I just wish he'd score more goals.
That's really not his gene though and he's been dropping back a lot more per Martinez's instructions.
Guardian piece from today or yesterday on the Player of the Year nominations.
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Bale, 23, and Hazard, 22, are also on the shortlist for the Young Player of the Year – whether they should feature on both is debatable – and the former is being tipped to win both awards. Christian Benteke would be a better choice. His goals could keep Aston Villa up and there are bigger clubs who are kicking themselves for not spotting him last summer. Romelu Lukaku has also made a strong impression during his loan spell at West Bromwich Albion.
However there are surely more deserving candidates than Jack Wilshere and Danny Welbeck. The former has not truly caught the imagination, while the latter has scored only twice for his club despite playing up front for the champions-elect. If you could combine Welbeck and Javier Hernández you would have the perfect forward, but that remains a problem for a mad scientist to solve. Southampton's Luke Shaw, Manchester City's Matija Nastasic and Wigan's James McCarthy can all feel aggrieved not to have been shortlisted.
Wigan are odds on to go down, Aston Villa are 2-1. The next team is Newcastle at 24-1 so I think it is safe to say that only Wigan or Aston Villa will realistically go down now.
With the amount of young Irish Players on the verge of getting game time with the villa first team and the type of manager Lambert is, really hoping for our National Side that Villa stay up
I think the fact that Wigan has to play Villa makes all the difference as a least one must drop points were it not
for that the teams above would be a fair bit shorter than 24-1.
You could make a case for Wigan getting 12 points and Villa getting 9 putting both on 43
ie Wigan winning Spurs (H), West Brom (A), Swansea (H), Villa (H)
and Villa winning Sunderland (H), Norwich (A), Chelsea (H). ( they would also play a Man U side with nothing to play for).
But that seems tough, they might be able to do it getting 9 and 6 points, but even then their poor goal difference is a big problem.
Big Mac: Me not thinking about Man U.
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/footb...er-United-move