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13/04/2010, 10:37 PM
supporter

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Originally Posted by thomas72

joesoap is the new MOD trying to sound clever my guess :)

Agree with you there thomas pity rory has made it easy for him with his post.
13/04/2010, 10:38 PM
Spindoctor

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Originally Posted by redcardrory

:blowkiss:

:clown:
13/04/2010, 11:07 PM
supporter

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Originally Posted by redcardrory

:blowkiss::silly:

Were ok so rory lol.
14/04/2010, 6:46 AM
avenueC

reading the posts the last few weeks,
its all a bit farcical really

are the fai dragging it out trying not to upset any of the big guns? a decision would want to made for the good of the teams that are involves so they can get on with the remainder of the season
14/04/2010, 9:23 AM
SeniorBlue

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Originally Posted by avenueC

reading the posts the last few weeks,
its all a bit farcical really

are the fai dragging it out trying not to upset any of the big guns? a decision would want to made for the good of the teams that are involves so they can get on with the remainder of the season

Lads ruling went against Pike, afaik they have been expelled from comp
14/04/2010, 9:25 AM
leather

I hope that this is not the case...all clubs in limerick will have too seriously consider their future participation in the competition if you are correct in your info..
14/04/2010, 9:44 AM
joeSoap

The decision has gone in favour of Saint Michaels I have just been very reliably informed by an FAI official who says that he, and several others are absolutely gobsmacked at this.

I'm sure Pike will take this further.
14/04/2010, 9:47 AM
joeSoap

It's based on the game he played against Aisling in the previous stage of the competition and had nothing at all to do with the Saint Michaels game. Quite unbelieveable decision really, and I can't see this heading anywhere but court.
14/04/2010, 9:55 AM
Goals4fun

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Originally Posted by joeSoap

It's based on the game he played against Aisling in the previous stage of the competition and had nothing at all to do with the Saint Michaels game. Quite unbelieveable decision really, and I can't see this heading anywhere but court.

just got a text on the same saying pike are out. Michaels u are a disgrace for persuing this.....and u should be ashamed
I hope pike take this further. If not then Ashling should look to get back into the draw as with all other teams that Pike beat. If michaels can get in then why can't the rest.

joke the FAI are......
14/04/2010, 10:12 AM
Goals4fun

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Originally Posted by Town Fan

Yeah like they were a joke three years ago. Town got kicked out of Munster for exaclty same thing- hurts doesn't it

that day was the player illegal on the day or was it in previous rounds?
14/04/2010, 10:13 AM
joeSoap

The difference was when Town got kicked out the objection was lodged in a proper fashion by the club. St Michaels had no grounds at all for objection. Aisling were the only party that were in their right to object to Colm Carroll as they were the only club that he played illegally against. I'm pretty sure I would be taking this further if I were Pike Rovers management. Aisling should be the re-instated club, with ties having to be back dated if this is to be the case.
14/04/2010, 10:21 AM
the 12 th man

If you want to post here lads keep it civil,don't post obvious inflamatory posts or I'll bin them anyhow when I see them and suspend accordingly.
14/04/2010, 10:23 AM
Longshanks

Well hopefully that is the end of this saga(although I doubt it).

My twopence on the issue for what it matters is, Pike played an illegal player in previous round and got away with it(so they thought), wether Pike intentionally played an illegal player has no bearing on the matter - an illegal player was played. Rules is rules. Do Aisling get re-instated? Do Springfield too? etc. Its a pure mess, and its a pity that it took till Pike thought they were in the Semis for this to materialise. Pike should never got out of the Limerick stages(if thats where they beat Aisling). As I mentioned in a previous post that the 'ratting' is seen to be the bigger sin than the 'cheating'.

I personally have no real interest in the Limerick game but I know that Pike are desperate to win the FAI Junior Cup, and I hope that next year they go on and win it(providing they dont beat any Sligo/Leitrim team on the way!?!?). It would be a shame for Pike to have won it this year with this debacle hanging over them, It would diminish the achievement of all those involved with Pike if their Cup win was tarnished. 2011 to be Pikes year.
14/04/2010, 10:31 AM
complexman

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Originally Posted by redcardrory

agree with you there. and they say money doesn't talk i hope the senior councill enjoy their holidays
,pike are going to arbatration what a laugh this has turned out to be letters been sent to pike with details which says st micheals had nothing now they win it its all about money denis cruise i hope you can sleep at nite time

Yes this is crazy and reflects terribly on those in power and run the game. that said, its very hard for me to have sympathy for Pike, given what they did to Town.
14/04/2010, 10:32 AM
joeSoap

If this goes to arbitration, and I've no doubt it will, it will be very interesting to see how a Judge, who has no affiliation to any club or organisation reads the whole situation. It will depend on whether or not he plays it hardball and straight down the line as per the rules (in which case Aisling would be re-instated and have to play Springfield, with the winners to play Michaels etc) or whether he looks at the case on its merits and decides that Pike were not aware of any wrong as Aisling did not object in the sufficient timescale involved. This will drag on for a long time yet.
14/04/2010, 10:33 AM
Goals4fun

2009-2010 Fai final - Fairview versus ????? to be played on the 10th January 2011 at ?????

is this what we are looking at?
14/04/2010, 10:40 AM
Noddy

what a mess this is going to turn out to be now. A farce of a decision.
14/04/2010, 10:44 AM
joeSoap

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Originally Posted by redcardrory

it has he is a st micheals man you know it i know it everyone knows it what was he doing sitting on the first hearing in the first place and that is a fact joe

You're wrong Rory. He has no bearing on the Senior Council whatsoever. They are a totally separate entity from Junior Council. He sat at the first hearing because of his involvement as Honorary Secretary of the Junior Council. Don't try make something of this when theres nothing in it.
14/04/2010, 11:05 AM
Quietman

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Originally Posted by joeSoap

You're wrong Rory. He has no bearing on the Senior Council whatsoever. They are a totally separate entity from Junior Council. He sat at the first hearing because of his involvement as Honorary Secretary of the Junior Council. Don't try make something of this when theres nothing in it.

The only part of this decision that can be argued is whether St Michaels progress or Teams from the earlier rounds come back in. And that depends on the "FULL" details of what offences were actually committed by Pike. Most of what has been posted on here is heresay. The decision to expell Pike is the only outcome that they could expect after breaking the rules of the competition. Its the Junior Councils decision that has caused all the uproar. They should have had the courage to expell Pike. It's a huge pity and hopefully Michaels, if they do progress will be beaten in the next round, cos if they win the Cup it'll be worthless!!
14/04/2010, 11:13 AM
lfc at heart

I think they were correct in their decision to throw Pike out, they DID play an illegal player and it doesnt matter what round he was played in, he was illegal

and as for the letter that pike got saying that st michaels heard about the illegal player from a 2 Limerick based people is hearsay just like the letter thats hearsay too i think Pike were trying to spin it by leaking that . if there is a letter there like that , that all ye pike people say there is put it up on your site now that the deciaion is made , I dont think that letter exists so it will never be published, prove me wrong and publish it

also I said this before, I think there would have been no objection if connie had not made that hand/finger gesture during the St Michaels game, its now returning and biting him in the ass and rightly so.

JUSTICE HAS BEEN DONE, Pike should build a bridge and get over it

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