Had a quick look round a few wba forums. To say they were unhappy with him joining would be an understatement. However am glad to say after 2 appearances and 2 goals they are coming around
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Had a quick look round a few wba forums. To say they were unhappy with him joining would be an understatement. However am glad to say after 2 appearances and 2 goals they are coming around
They were unhappy signing a Euro 2012 bound international on a short term deal who scored 9 goals in half a championship season from midfield and cost absolutely nothing? Thats cracking business and a very low risk move
Just involved in putting WBA 1-0 up at home to Chelsea. Recycled the corner and McAuley tapped home from the resulting shot. He seems to have made the midfield role his own already. Long and Cox on the bench.
Played the full game for them today. Wouldnt attribute WBAs turnaround in fortunes solely to Andrews but three games and three wins when he has been involved.
Seems to be establishing himself as a big player for WBA and I would argue he is one of our 'must haves' this summer along with Dunne, Given and Keane.
The way the BBC has lined the sides up here http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17163246 suggests he was partnered in the middle by Reid today. An Error? Or in these times of midfield paucity, do we have a midfield pairing available who are in an EPL top ten placed side and just took out Chelsea ?
No, Reid was right back. Tamas came on to replace him as a like for like swap.
two goals and an assist in those games tooQuote:
Originally Posted by elroy
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Originally Posted by Irish_Praha
I was not really aware of all the goings on on Blackburn, rather overshadow with the Kearns stuff
here is a link giving a bit of background to it all.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...-keith-andrews
Actually Andrews does not hold any hard feelings towards Blackburn.
"I don't take any satisfaction whatsoever in seeing them second bottom of the Premier League," Andrews said. "I have some good friends there and it is not nice to see. I am not one for holding grudges.
Anyway things seem to be going well for Andrews at the moment, I think WBA have won every (3)
game he has played so far and they are 3rd placed in the Prem on current form.
The same thought occurred to me for the first time wednesday evening when he went down clutching his knee.Quote:
Originally Posted by elroy
Kinda crept up on me that realisation.
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2012/...-at-euro-2012/
Love reading this stuff, in my line of work ive also come across many nationalities and I would definitely agree with this, I don't know what it comes down to(800 years etc played a part im sure :D) but we definitely are.Quote:
"The whole country comes to a standstill and it's at times like this that you are very proud to be Irish.
"We are a very patriotic nation. I have come across a lot of nationalities, especially in my time playing football, and I haven't come across a more patriotic nation."
It's a shame our fellow country men couldn't have extended that to club football in this country.
You can try make out you're as Irish as can be, but wearing a Man Utd/Liverpool shirt kind of takes away from it
I like reading Andrews' stuff. He seems a likeable, level-headed and articulate guy. I think he'll go on to be a manager or coach and we'll be hearing more from him in the decade after he retires.
agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by gilberto_eire
and then theres those that consider supporting celtic and Ireland as one and the same thing
I assume I'm the only one who's noticed the scorer of important goals has yet to score in these championships.
He's a scorer of important goals, not a miracle worker.
I think a few of last night's starters are past their sell by date, but I think I'd keep Andrews around.
Our player of the two games so far by a distance - I know thats not saying much but it was pretty evident to all I think the desire and commitment he has shown, where others failed.
Andrews is a really poor international footballer but I have to agree he has been our least rubbish player so far. Seems like a nice guy too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Junior
To be fair only sledge has scored.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Keith did manage to get in about 12 shots, which I find remarkable, I think that is as many as the rest of the side put together!!
Although it has been said the nearest he came to scoring was booting the ball intot he crowd after being sent off! :p
I can only recall a couple of free kicks and a header.
He could've had a hat-trick in the last 15 against Croatia. Keeper saved a shot from distance, header he should've scored and flashed a shot wide from 20 yards.
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/s...al-199139.html
Andrews signs 3 year deal at Bolton.
He's writing in tomorrow's Examiner about the Euros. It'll be interesting to read what he has to say. He's a bright and articulate guy.
Don’t miss Keith Andrews’ exclusive column in the Irish Examiner tomorrow, Saturday, when he offers an insider’s view of Ireland’s disappointing Euro 2012 and reflects on the lessons to be learned ahead of the World Cup qualifying campaign.
Have an awful lot of time for Andrews, commited , hard working player who gives it his all and has done a good Job for us since becoming a part of the irish side.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Think its a good move going to bolton , with coyle there hopefully they will go straight back up .
Absolutely thrilled he didnt join Celtic, way too good for them
He wouldn't have had much of a chance of getting regular first team football with Celtic.
Better chance with Bolton and 3 years is a good deal.
one match ban for Andrews with another match ban suspended....
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/euro-...cup-qualifier/
couldve been worse after his tantrum leaving the pitch
The man can't pass the ball ten yards.Quote:
Originally Posted by back of the net
commitment should be a given for a professional footballer.
Insightful commentQuote:
Originally Posted by dong
Spot on. He will score goals for bolton but he is a liability for us. If you are not capable of passing the ball simply then all the running/tackling in world is pointless. How can he be ahead of gibson. mccarthy, hoolahan and ireland on ability. if andrews remains a regular how can anyone see us playing better possesion football and using our midfield as an attacking platform?Quote:
Originally Posted by dong
according to squawka - http://www.squawka.com/player/keith-andrews - his average pass length is 17m = 18 yards.Quote:
Originally Posted by dong
so, yes he can pass the ball ten yards
Arsene Wenger thinks you need a team of artists with no attention to their mental / leadership attributes. What does he have? A team of fancy dans who choke all the time. Eric Morecambe was a genius, but he needed Ernie Wise to illustrate it. Teams often need the likes of Andrews as much as they need the Pirlos. Sure, we'd prefer if we had a Makelele or a Deschamps but we don't.
Disappointed he didn't get a Premier League move - he's easily good enough to be playing for half the sides in the league. I suppose at his age he has to look at keeping his family settled in the north west.
In fairness, that was only over three matches at the Euros. What is his average pass length over a full season? That would be a much more accurate figure.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
in order to work that out, you'd need to record every completed pass made in every game over an entire season, and then divide by the number of passes. Maybe Opta has it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
What does it matter what his average pass distance is? It's irrelevant. Somebody said he can't pass the ball ten yards and that was patently proven to be false. There is no more data required. I'd imagine Xavi's average pass is less than 10 yards but it doesn't mean he can't ping it 30 yards if he spots a pass.
Well he can.... :P
It could be he is better at long passes.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
To be fair 17m average pass distance is quite short and to only have a 70% success rate doing that is pretty terrible for a centre mid. Andrews reminds me a bit like Kilbane in that regard, very spirited player and leader in his enthusiasm and effort but struggles to do his primary job effectively.
He has a team that reaches champions league football year after year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Christ Charlie. I would have expected better of you clinging to a turn of phrase like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
The point is he is a terrible passer of the ball, anybody can see that. Compared to say, Keith Fahey or James McCarthy. We should be trying to move away from these all huff and puff players in my opinion.
With the 3rd highest wage bill in England so that's what you'd expect. They lost what, 9 league games last season? The dogs on the steeet think they're a soft touch and can be got at easily. Don't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by dong
Personally I think in a 2 man midfield you need a ball winner and a ball user, though ideally each player can do both. Andrews doesn't have much in the way of finesse but he's an important part of Trap's system. Now, the big point is whether Trap's system needs a tweak and I think it does. The tweak I would make would be to include McCarthy and Gibson with one other playing a bit further ahead. Whether that one other is Andrews or a better passer, say Hoolahan or Ireland(!), isn't something I'm fixed on and it'd depend on how things pan out. What works in theory and what works in practice are often very different.Quote:
Originally Posted by dong
How much does our squad cost?