Reason being no Dublin City. Just over 3000 for Derry - CorkQuote:
Originally Posted by BohDiddley
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Reason being no Dublin City. Just over 3000 for Derry - CorkQuote:
Originally Posted by BohDiddley
Ok for the moment lets say the 2000 for the Longford game is accurate even though I believe it isn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
2000 + 1100 = 3100 divide by 2 = 1550 average.
Thats not 1700
Wexford Youths have brought a good few fans in aswellQuote:
Originally Posted by Dazzy
A lack of Dublin City ahs definitely helped the Premier average to-date - but attendances are up almost everywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzy
Any thoughts on why this is ? My tuppence worth /;
1) The addition of Wexford and their healthy crowds has helped. Will be interesting to see if they're just a novelty or not.
2) A popular/inclusive club in Limerick is also having a positive impact.
3) Have the club promotion officers had that much of an impact so quickly ? Would be interesting to compare changes in attendnaces at all clubs with PO's versus those without.
Any other thoughts on why crowds are looking up universally for at least this first series of games ? Is the improvement in quality of the league actually starting to sink-in ? Are we seeing a follow-on from recent European results (City certainly are anyway).
Attendances are usually high for first couple of weeks & then drop off due to saturation tv expose to the CL & EPL but i does seem like attendances have held up this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
- Shamrock back in the Premier
- Galway Utd in the Premier
- Wexford & Limerick 37 replacing DC & old Limerick
- Improved facilities at some grounds
- Reasonable weather so far.
- Live TV exposure?
- Demise of Shels meaning Premier title more open?
- Relegation of Shels boosting first division numbers?
I feel the high quality of ex-eircom league players in England this season is showing a lot of people that we have great quality at home that was unrecognized.Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
Don't be silly. DC weren't holding back attandances by 30-odd%Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzy
I still had 1400 in for the Galway game. Changed to 1100, as mentioned earlier by NY Hoop for one, I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulaHoop
I don't think you can say the attendances have held up this season - they haven't really had time to fall back, and if you want to be cynical, they haven't hit the heights of the first day yet. They are up though, although I don't think the reasons you highlight above are overly relevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
1) I don't think building a new jacks or what have you is going to put attendances up 50%, or even 5%. Yes, it's nice to see, etc, but people aren't going to go to games because the ground is a bit nicer. Leinster are the oft-mentioned case in point her.
2) Don't think so, to be honest. A lot of the games have been poor, by all accounts. Hasn't hurt obviously. Still desperately need a proper highlights show rather than 40-live games per season.
3) Don't really think this is relevant. In fairness, for the strength of Shels' squad, the title went down to the wire the last two seasons, with Shels not being involved one season.
4) Nope - they're just replacing Rovers really.
I think the CPOs deserve credit to an extent, and - God help me for saying this - the FAI. We've had Open Days, merchandise and season tickets given away (I'd be interested to see what proportion of the increase is kids getting in for free, for example), ads in papers, fold out fixture lists, loyalty cards and the likes. That all helps a fair bit.
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Originally Posted by pete
Good man pete, nothing to do with our crowds that are the highest in the first div, 5th best overall so far, not to mention contributing just a little bit to mons best for the season ?
Maybe not the full 30% but a large % of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
If you analyse the numbers, particularly their home games against non-Dublin sides and compare against either Rovers/Galway who replaced them a substantial part of the increase could be attributable to DC.
Crowds really started to dip last year after the (insane) summer break. Lets wait until then and compare like with like.
I'd put the Shels Athlone crowd at about 1300.
However, I'd also have the Kildare game at 1700 :)
That's Rovers to you biy!Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
KOH
Yeah bigger crowds than Dublin City & Shels. Do you want a medal? :D :pQuote:
Originally Posted by NY Hoop
Eh, still no, unfortunately.Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
Let's, for example, take Kilkenny out of the figures. The average would jump from 1545 to 1595 - 3%. Certainly not what I'd call a large % of 30%.
I'm referring to the Premier figures.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Compare like with like. We have substituted a club that averaged about 100 home fans with one that attracts over 1500 home fans.
OK, you're still wrong.
Take off 2200, say (which is substituting two DC games @ 400 a head for 2 Rovers games at 1500 a head) and you get a decrease of 5½%. Still not 30%, or anything close. It's a help, obviously, but not close to explaining the whole increase.
I reckon the EL's biggest crowd of the season will be at TX tomorrow night.
;) lets hope its the best match aswell...Quote:
Originally Posted by Pablo
Have you found the missing 3,000 fans lost 2 years ago hiding in a salt mine?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pablo
Or maybe have our transitory bandwagon jumpers that have started drifting away in recents weeks returned to Cork to support you?
The mind boggles.....
Like the 4,000 you were missing on Monday night compared to when the last game took place?Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
people in glass houses etc etc
I wonder how many of "the best fans in Ireland(TM)" will be at Derrys home games should the slump continue?
I must save that post for future reference.......
Still running short of irony detectors on Leeside?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pablo
Our fans are as fickle as yours (almost), we know that.
From maybe 3-4 years ago our core support has probably doubled & I think we would get 1500 at any match now. We have a lot of big games in the league, cup, setanta cup & europe so only natural fans who can not attend all games will have to choose the best ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
The closure of the shed last season affected the numbers as vocal support spread around the ground. I still expect the new stand to boost numbers this season.
Amen to that. Would have thought this is a game for live tv. Anyway cork always get a good crowd when we're in town.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buller
KOH
Yeah nothing like Rovers for a banker of 3 points!Quote:
Originally Posted by NY Hoop
UCD v bray, max 450, probably less though, 90% seemed to be from bray, no one stood up at all in the seats when UCD scored apart from the few down the end trying to sing, god loves triers!!
No, 450 is about right. Including about 20 in a very crowded press box for some reason.
I didn't realise it was a requirement to stand up when you scored?!
:rolleyes: What else would you do:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
As Nick Hornby said, if you're sitting down and your team scores it's an involuntary reaction - like sneezing. :)
Eh? I don't think I've ever sneezed when Harps scored.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry The Saint
So you think the whole stand would have been standing had Bray scored?:confused: :D Bray had 50 at the very most.Quote:
Originally Posted by Green&whitearmy
Seriously that's the way the crowd is at Belfield. Most of the crowd seem to be old and so very few fans that sing. And there's always people standing around the ground already.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry The Saint
Attendance 1,704
5000+ at the Cross tonight.
Donie Forde(1900)- Around 1500 in there.
Derrynane(1185) - About 700 City fans and 350 away fans.
St Annes End(2800) - Around 800 or so in there.
Shed End(1600) - All seats taken and plenty standing on the steps and at the back so about 1700 inside it.
That adds up to 5050, Rovers always bring out the crowds.
looked like a sell- out at Richmond - Stand full, Camac full apart from a no-mans land under the TV gantry, loads behind the goal at the Inchicore end and in front of the (closed) shed - no idea what that adds up to.
to jebus and one or two others, official attendance at the bottom of the table clash tonight in terryland was 1704. Not exageratted but accurate and GUFC are one of the very few clubs in the league that let their supporters independently assess and count the gate. Also less than a mile away connaght rugby were playing a big game as well
1500 (surprisingly!!) at drogs v sligo 2nite, bout 60-70 from sligo
when it's full it holds over 5000. shed was not in use so ill say 4500. Pats will say 2,000:rolleyes:
GUFC Are one of the very few clubs who let their supporters independently assess and count the tickets and season ticket cardsQuote:
Originally Posted by jebus
Good call I'd say. Stand holds 1800 plus add on say 100 for overcrowding in the Bohs section and the same for people on the steps at the other end. Pats section of the Camac was absolutely jointed, I was on tip toes trying to see half the time and I'm 6'2". I assume the Bohs section was equally packed. Add on a few hundred behind either goal and 4500 sounds about right.Quote:
Originally Posted by dubman
And you're right, Pats will understate the official attendance.
Just interested, why will Pats want to understate their attendances? I've seen the way they count the attendance (pre-numbered tickets, deduct the unsold numbers from the total printed), it would be easy to check so why not ask to check it one night if you don't believe it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr.Nightdub
The website has a figure of 3728.
The taxman. CCFC definatly do it as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stato
They have a billionaire businessman as an owner and you think he'd happily agree to risk his reputation with Revenue over a few hundred quid at Pats? Highly unlikely.Quote:
Originally Posted by adamcarr
Very decent crowds overall tonight by all accounts esp in cork and at pats, galway too deserve a mention for a very healthy turn out considering their awful start.