Tame and timid from Derry. A repeat of 100 LOI games in Europe where the team in question have zero cutting edge, fall foul of the 'dark arts' of the game, and get picked apart by an average team that they make look like world beaters.
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Tame and timid from Derry. A repeat of 100 LOI games in Europe where the team in question have zero cutting edge, fall foul of the 'dark arts' of the game, and get picked apart by an average team that they make look like world beaters.
I pop in sporadically but it is certainly more fun when Derry are doing well (not a common occurrence over the years)Quote:
Originally Posted by ontheotherhand
Results don’t make a good team of course.
It is over unfortunately although I appreciate your well wishes.
My interest in this thread is all but over but hopefully you will catch me in another again some time soon.
I am turning my attention to the GAA for the weekend - a proper sport!!
Seems fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by CorribsideSteve
Have the matches this week shown up that our players are lacking a bit of savvy getting sucked into red cards.
Sligo and Derry both had reds and Gaffney should def have had a red and probably a lengthy ban too. He kicked a lad in the face (albeit lightly enough), but it was a ridiculous loss of self control. And then to admit it on camera was very naive. Would you ever see a pro from another league do that?
The sligo one was a mistake at last man back and he had to take him down. Couldn't see what smith did for Derry but looked fairly innocuous.
Gaffney admitted he connected with the guy but it was an accident. His looked the worst and yet he stayed on the pitch. Go figure.
They're actually not really a pub team anymore reading that article on the42Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Nice of someone else to "let the league down" this year
The first leg of the tie Pats are waiting on ended up Sfintul Gheorghe 1 - 2 NS Mura.
Max Mata winner gives Sligo Rovers advantage over Welsh rivals in Europa Conference League - Independent.ie
"Park Hall in Oswestry, Wales"
Basic error by the Indo, Oswestry is in England not Wales.
Two decent wins so far, and Sham Rovers should be capable of another one in Malta, and Sligo at home also, these are all good for the overall league coefficient, you hardly get anything for a draw.
I looked it up and that was Sligo's only second ever away win so that's good going, these are very hard to come by, we got two away wins last year but again its rare it happens consistently.
Disappointing for Derry, but Riga are no mugs, big investment into that side in recent years, we just scrapped by them (on pens) in 2019, also I note the only decent foreign player that P6 bought for us in 2021 played for them last night, Jurkovskis, the right full, very good player, he is Latvian Internationalist.
It’s also only our fourth ever win
Why didn't ye keep him Oriel? He played well last nightQuote:
Originally Posted by oriel
He was good going forward but my God he was a woeful defender. Remember him being totally shown up against Longford in a game last season. Better off to give someone like Leahy a run than wasting wages on some fella because he has international caps for a poor sideQuote:
Originally Posted by pateen
Going by the money that was offered to the imports Jurkovskis was probably on stupid money. Good job the policy was also short term contracts for these players.
When you've been watching LOI in Europe since 1999, you get the feeling that you've seen this movie before.Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz
It must have been the reboots that had LoI teams go toe to toe only for a defensive calamity to undo 90+ minutes of an effective performance. The difference between Dundalk playing BATE one year was not coping with the dark arts, eg Rodionov, BATE'S main goal threat, poleaxed Dane Massey with a blatant elbow to the face the 2nd leg of the first tie. got away with it one the pitch and his club new how to keep him out of trouble. Following year we were savvy to their acting up and but used it to hang on in the 1st leg and then to frustrate them when ahead in Tallaght. We were criticised domestically for effective 'game management' by other supporters after. I doubt the Welsh were up to much but Riga were a piece of work when we played them to stalemate, slowing thins down in the heat ourselves and really bugging them. It why I think at times, with a couple of games under the belt, Irish teams get a better grip on things as often, certainly in the earlier rounds we are not vastly inferior.Quote:
Originally Posted by CorribsideSteve
Jurkovskis was on the classic P6 one year deal, thankfully most they signed on this were rubbish and left, but Stanton was another exception, Scottish lad, would kept him, but Jurkovskis was always going after his 12 months.Quote:
Originally Posted by pateen
https://mobile.twitter.com/SSEAirtri...36353164464135
Good highlights there of the Rovers game. McGinty made a good save in the first half tho that wasn't shown.
Any issue with the pitch.....
Do I jinx it for Sligo Rovers by booking a train to Motherwell
Cheers for the link. The result looks about fair based on those highlights.Quote:
Originally Posted by redobit
Jurkovskis was great last night. Quite impressed with that Riga side, who won at a canter.Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
We were never in the game, reduced to a few timid free kick efforts.
The red card was pathetic, there was nothing in it, and the Riga lad did exactly the same thing as Smith, so they both should have been off really.
The ref was very whistle happy, but you have to expect that playing Europe.
I don't think we can have any excuses from last night. We were comfortably beaten by a side that's of a much higher quality than we are. They five international players starting yesterday, were more physical than us, and technically better.
Disappointing, but I suppose that's just the luck of the draw.
Can't say I'm expecting anything from the second leg. Riga would need to have a serious off day, and we'd need to be very lucky.
On a side note, reading that Shamrock Rovers are flying out of Shannon because they couldn't get Dublin or Belfast. Meanwhile, Riga's charter went into Dublin, not Derry. Can't make sense of that.
After Leahy's performance last night I wish to withdraw the above statement 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
Good points overall there, especially regarding Dundalk's handling of BATE. Its unbelievably frustrating watching how naive LOI lads are at getting baited into stupid card generating BS from the other teams, giving away soft fouls that are usually cyniically exploited with dramatic overacting by opposing players which all serve to kill momentum etc. Some might feel the Derry s/o was incredibly harsh, but it was really dumb retaliation from him when his team were already struggling. LOI teams often seem to lose easily in Europe to teams not much better than them, but are mentally tougher and more intelligent tactically. Hopefully your theory holds sound and the teams cop on as the rounds progress.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Bohs unlucky to lose 2 to 1 in Berlin. They should be able to go through if they play well in the home leg.
Bohs fans on social media enjoying the pat on the head from Union Berlin for turning up.. bohs board will be pleased , East Berlin is still semi communist. Onward to victory for the commisariat
Rovers second leg in Malta will be shown on the RTÉ News channel.
Good to see RTE making an effort.Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz
Great novelty for the Bohs fans that traveled in huge numbers apparently. It’s good to see fixtures like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Although it is in one of the bits of Wales that the English nicked. You even see streets in Oswestery with Welsh language names.Quote:
Originally Posted by D24Saint
Yeah it's class. Not even mentioning the fact that there was four away trips in Europe that were missed out on for obvious reasons when the club hadn't qualified for Europe in a decade. Of course the fanbase is going to make up for lost time.Quote:
Originally Posted by D24Saint
Doesn’t sound out of character for the English to nick territory !Quote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
To say that is a weird bit of scheduling is an under-exaggeration.Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz
I see a couple of Bohs fans ended up in hospital after being attacked over there.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
RTÉ Two is the current home of the Women's Euro 2022. The GAA is switching to RTÉ One. Better to be shown than not to be shown at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
That’s surprising, the Germans never hurt anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
Bohs fan kicked unconscious apparently,at a friendly,shocking that really…..
Thugs are thugs and I doubt would think friendly game so will take a break from being a thug. Not very often but on an odd occasion at games on the continent as neutrals we'd to point out we werent English or we could have been in trouble. Is it possible that a similar assumption was made, that English/Irish meh close enough. I hope the injured are all ok and have gotten home. Maybe a Bohs fans could give a quick update?
Hope the injured Bohs fan is ok. It should be noted however that it wasn’t Union Berlin fans involved in the attack, any wrong doing was carried out by *checks notes* Wrexham fans
The away goal would be massive for us if they were still a thing, but we are more than capable of winning at home.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
It was Gerard Farrell too, who does all the Bohs history stuff. Crazy for a meaningless pre-season friendly.Quote:
Originally Posted by joey B
I was on a stag do in Berlin 5yrs ago, and when we were on a bierkeller night the 2 tables next to us were all massive blokes who looked like nasty pieces of work (plus one quite attractive woman). We were all speculating that they were either ex-cons or hooligans and trying to avoid them, until one of our group beered up decided to go over and ask them. Turns out they were a Union Berlin hooligan group celebrating their main guy's birthday (the woman was his girlfriend). They were massive and not the kind of characters you'd mess with.