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03/06/2021, 5:25 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by TheBoss

I think Staunton gets a bad rep. Yes, he started off very poorly. But after that, I thought his teams did quite well. The last game against Cyprus was a dead rubber, even if it was not great. His actual win/draw/lose rate is exactly the same as Martin O'Neill's record.

*Cough* San Marino *cough*
03/06/2021, 5:25 PM
Trequartista20

I'm very pleased for Parrott.
03/06/2021, 5:32 PM
Eirambler

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Originally Posted by placid casual

There's not much Kenny can do when he has dog�hit like Curtis & Collins playing upfront. Good finish by young parrot

He could, you know, pick some different players instead.
03/06/2021, 5:33 PM
pineapple stu

And we've stopped playing again since the goal
03/06/2021, 5:33 PM
CSAD

F&$king blow it up ref
03/06/2021, 5:34 PM
CSAD

Quote:

Originally Posted by placid casual

There's not much Kenny can do when he has dog�hit like Curtis & Collins playing upfront. Good finish by young parrot

Player quality goes out the window when you are playing Andorra.
03/06/2021, 5:35 PM
pineapple stu

Connolly and Idah have been fairly toothless in previous games in fairness. Options are poor
03/06/2021, 5:35 PM
Fixer82

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Originally Posted by TheBoss

I think Staunton gets a bad rep. Yes, he started off very poorly. But after that, I thought his teams did quite well. The last game against Cyprus was a dead rubber, even if it was not great. His actual win/draw/lose rate is exactly the same as Martin O'Neill's record.

Germany games, Italy, Austria, taking the lead against future finalists and World champions in Euros.

No comparison with Stan and O�Neill
03/06/2021, 5:39 PM
placid casual

Is taking the lead against superior opposition seen as a positive? In which case Andorra are a great side yeah?
Good to see McGrath coming on-hope he does well.
03/06/2021, 5:42 PM
TrapAPony

Positives are that Parrott and Knight score. Negative is that Kenny stays on for another match.
03/06/2021, 5:42 PM
centre mid

Good finish from Knight
03/06/2021, 5:43 PM
NeverFeltBetter

A reprieve for Kenny, and important it isn't seen as more than that. Let's see how they get on against Hungary.
03/06/2021, 5:43 PM
TheBoss

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

*Cough* San Marino *cough*

That happens in football. Sure, Turkey only beat Andorra 1-0 in the 89 minute a few years ago.
03/06/2021, 5:45 PM
pineapple stu

The bad performances all add up though.

And that was a performance as awful as the result. I think Kilbane's goal on 50 minutes was our first effort on target
03/06/2021, 5:47 PM
pineapple stu

Our best ever win against Andorra.

Long live king Kenny!
03/06/2021, 5:48 PM
Insidetherock

delighted for Horgan.. always looks busy
03/06/2021, 5:48 PM
centre mid

There has been some real quality deliveries in the 2nd half.
03/06/2021, 5:49 PM
CSAD

We scored 4... what the hell!!
03/06/2021, 5:50 PM
paul_oshea

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Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter

A reprieve for Kenny, and important it isn't seen as more than that. Let's see how they get on against Hungary.

Yep there's little to see or suggest bar parrot really and Andorra dying off an the pressure putting on us dropped. We did have better crosses going in in the second half. But that's the little I saw improve.

We've got much worse defensively especially set pieces under Kenny.
03/06/2021, 5:53 PM
centre mid

Not sure we learned anything from that game tbh. Next game is make or break despite it being a friendly.
03/06/2021, 5:55 PM
CSAD

Our defense can�t be excused as it�s one of the areas we actually have good players in.
03/06/2021, 5:55 PM
TheBoss

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

The bad performances all add up though.

And that was a performance as awful as the result. I think Kilbane's goal on 50 minutes was our first effort on target

All add up? After that 5-2 defeat, the team lost 1 match in his last 12 matches. I think many Irish supporters would take that now!
03/06/2021, 5:57 PM
seanfhear

I don’t know. I really don’t.
03/06/2021, 5:57 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by centre mid

Not sure we learned anything from that game tbh.

We learned I can call the part-timer impact :D

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Andorra concede a significant amount of their goals in the last half hour - not surprising if they're mostly part-time - so there's hope for a win yet

But yeah, Hungary won't tire after an hour and where will that leave us?

And Portugal will have us tired after an hour...
03/06/2021, 6:00 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by TheBoss

All add up? After that 5-2 defeat, the team lost 1 match in his last 12 matches. I think many Irish supporters would take that now!

The two games against Cyprus and the win in San Marino were three of the worst performances I can remember. That's a lot in an 18-month period for a team that included some genuinely top class players. (The 4-0 home defeat against Holland wasn't great either, but it was a friendly and Holland can do that to you at times)

I agree we had some good results too.
03/06/2021, 6:02 PM
Fixer82

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

The two games against Cyprus and the win in San Marino were three of the worst performances I can remember. That's a lot in an 18-month period for a team that included some genuinely top class players. (The 4-0 home defeat against Holland wasn't great either, but it was a friendly and Holland can do that to you at times)

I agree we had some good results too.

What results were good under Stan? 1-1 at home to Czech the best I can remember.
03/06/2021, 6:03 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by Fixer82

What results were good under Stan? 1-1 at home to Czech the best I can remember.

Drew with Germany too.

4-0 away to Denmark was notable, even if it was a friendly.

1-0 home wins and 2-2 away draws against Wales and Slovakia were decent enough.
03/06/2021, 6:05 PM
Trequartista20

One win in 12 against the part-timers of Andorra is not in any real sense appreciably better than the previous no wins in 11. Especially when the performance was as bad as the one we all just witnessed.
03/06/2021, 6:07 PM
tommy_c12000

Nice to get a win albeit Andorra. Wonderful to see Parrot notch two and Knight score. Hopefully they can build on it. Bazunu, Cullen, Parrott, Horgan did okay. Central defense will have better days. Poor game from J Collins, Hourihane, McClean and Curtis. Knight is not a winger despite his excellent assist, playing him out wide does him a disservice. Disappointing to see Duffy and Arter come on ahead of younger players at the end. Hopefully this will inject some confidence into the Irish side. Let�s see what happens vs Hungary
03/06/2021, 6:08 PM
osarusan

Desperate desperate stuff for an hour against a team 111 places below us in the rankings. That the team finally pulled their individual and collective heads from their arses is not much to celebrate.

Teams like Andorra are so bad that it's hard to take any positives from games even when you play well, but hey, at least we won, Parrott broke his duck, no injuries.
03/06/2021, 6:09 PM
Fixer82

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Drew with Germany too.

4-0 away to Denmark was notable, even if it was a friendly.

1-0 home wins and 2-2 away draws against Wales and Slovakia were decent enough.

0-0 to Germany was a decent performance yes. Wales weren�t great at the time. 2-2 away to them was poor. Slovakia were ok.

I don�t count friendlies. If we were going only on friendlies Kerr would be one of our greatest ever managers
03/06/2021, 6:10 PM
Razors left peg

Well I said I'd be out of excuses for him unless something drastic happened in 2nd half. 4 goals count as drastic.

We always under multiple managers play down to the standard of the opposition and rarely score 4 no matter who its against. Hungary will tell us more, but hes not dead yet!

Great to see Parrott showing that there might be a playing in there yet too
03/06/2021, 6:10 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by Fixer82

0-0 to Germany was a decent performance yes. Wales weren’t great at the time. 2-2 away to them was poor. Slovakia were ok.

I don’t count friendlies. If we were going only on friendlies Kerr would be one of our greatest ever managers

Yep, that's all probably fair enough alright.
03/06/2021, 6:11 PM
Exgrad

To go back to an old topic, i think James Collins is the worst real player to ever play for Ireland.

Will be happy to never see him in a green jersey again. Curtis wouldnt be too far behind but maybe hes young enough to improve a bit.
03/06/2021, 6:12 PM
centre mid

Gonna be a punch up in the studio

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Originally Posted by Fixer82

If we were going only on friendlies Kerr would be one of our greatest ever managers

Well here is Kerr's record ;)

TYPE H/A/N PLD WIN DRAW LOSS F A W % D % L % F/pg A/pg

ALL TOTAL 33 18 11 4 39 20 55% 33% 12% 1.18 0.61

COMPETITIVE TOTAL 16 7 7 2 19 10 44% 44% 13% 1.19 0.63

FRIENDLY TOTAL 17 11 4 2 20 10 65% 24% 12% 1.18 0.59

03/06/2021, 6:13 PM
paul_oshea

Good sense of perspective, I noted sadlier say on rte 2 that no one seemed to know where to stand for their goal. That they were all sorta looking at eachother not knowing who should be where , we also had a similar issue on 7 or 8 mins I think when they had a free kick and their player got a free header at the back post. As said we're strongest in defense so why are we so disorganised and porous?
03/06/2021, 6:14 PM
osarusan

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Originally Posted by centre mid

Gonna be a punch up in the studio

I turned it off - what happened?
03/06/2021, 6:15 PM
Fixer82

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

Good sense of perspective, I noted sadlier say on rte 2 that no one seemed to know where to stand for their goal. That they were all sorta looking at eachother not knowing who should be where , we also had a similar issue on 7 or 8 mins I think when they had a free kick and their player got a free header at the back post. As said we're strongest in defense so why are we so disorganised and porous?

Is this a case of over-coaching?

ie we weren�t told what to do when they are in this particular shape?

I haven�t seen the second half yet by the way
03/06/2021, 6:17 PM
centre mid

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Originally Posted by osarusan

I turned it off - what happened?

Collins and Sadlier having an argument about whether beating Andora is a positive or not having not won the previous 11.

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TYPE	H/A/N	PLD	WIN	DRAW	LOSS	F	A	W %	D %	L %	F/pg	A/pg
ALL	TOTAL	33	18	11	4	39	20	55%	33%	12%	1.18	0.61
COMPETITIVE	TOTAL	16	7	7	2	19	10	44%	44%	13%	1.19	0.63
FRIENDLY	TOTAL	17	11	4	2	20	10	65%	24%	12%	1.18	0.59