I don't know. Does a sample of two knock out competition games merit going route 1 (comeback for who? us?), with Greece? the only team to win anything doing this at international level?Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
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I don't know. Does a sample of two knock out competition games merit going route 1 (comeback for who? us?), with Greece? the only team to win anything doing this at international level?Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Watching replay of the Croatia/Brazil game. Modric is just a majestic player. Even at this age he just orchestrated everything whether in his own half or in the attacking third. Has to be one of the great mids of all time?? Top 10 like.
Netherlands v Argentina next. :)
Grant Wahl probably the most famous soccer corespondent in the States died after the Argentina/Holland game this evening….
Very prominent in trying to protest LGBT rights towards the start of the tournament and has covered the deaths of migrant workers extensively,his brother has released a video saying he’s been killed,absolutely tragic and very concerning if his death is found to be nefarious…..
Wahl also said himself he was feeling very unwell on Monday and highly stressed after a cold he's had for weeks had become bronchitis. Without intending distress to anyone its curious timing, but I don't automatically see a murderous conspiracy.
Edit: I note he was also complaining of chest pains on Monday. Get yourselves checked up on the regular lads, this stuff comes out of nowhere.
Been following him on Twitter for ages, probably since he put himself forward for president of FIFA. Really enjoyed his podcast series on Freddy Adu, American Prodigy. Highly recommend you give that a listen.
Very strange to be this upset about the death of someone you've never met
They didn’t beat us either ( wink )Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
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Yeah I don’t buy the murder theory either,but honestly who knows anymore,nothing would surprise me…….
Morocco about to repeat their trick against Spain and progress despite 25% possession. Feels like watching Greece in 2004
Croatia/Morocco is going to be an interesting World Cup Final.
Red card Morocco makes it interesting!
Ronaldo got one chance after coming on and didn't trouble Bono too much with it, so Santos is redeemed for that much anyway.
Wow!! Delighted for Morocco and the continent. Poor match but it makes the next round so interesting… come on France!!!
They surely can't do the same thing to France/England can they?
Well they've lost a few defenders I suppose, but they're so well set defensively regardless. England/France would be the best attack they'll face though, whoever it is. And a game against France would have enormous non-football related motivation too.
I'll cheer them to the rafters against either. Hopefully France but I'm hopeful rather than confident.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
I read somewhere that the amnesty is now, to avoid players in the QFs getting a yellow missing a semi or the final through suspension, other than red of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
That was a huge chance for Pepe. Good save by Bono earlier and Bruno Fernandes was very close. That was about it I think.
I'd have been very nervous of Portugal defending crosses or set pieces against England. Maybe not the worst result for the ABEs out there?
It's on wikipedia -Quote:
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A player or team official is automatically suspended for the next match for the following offences:[233]
Receiving a red card (red card suspensions may be extended for serious offences)
Receiving two yellow cards in two matches; yellow cards expire after the completion of the quarter-finals (yellow card suspensions are not carried forward to any other future international matches)
Some strike that - definite foul on Saka. Great to see..
England responding to the goal better than I thought they would in fairness
Agent Kane: return to base camp.
Thank f that’s over. Can enjoy the rest of it now! :)
Kane doing well in giving the tabloids their designated villain
Absolutely!
I think it's easy to say now, but England were unfortunate. Better side in general, but against that they didn't manage to score from play. They've a great squad and I'm not sure Southgate gets the most from them. He's done a good job when you look at who knocked them out in 2016/2014, but apart from Germany in the last Euros, he's beaten no-one of note in a major finals.
Southgate out-coached again at the highest level.
The commentator said that that France were missing five players that would probably be in the Team except for injuries ( Not even at the world cup due to injuries )
England need a coach that can compete against the top coaches in the big games.
Rice is slow for that level and for all the talk about Bellingham he too seems to lack a bit of pace ( well in that game today anyway )
Good point actually. Kante, Benzema. Kimpembe? Who else?Quote:
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Originally Posted by pineapple stu
~ England really crumbled after the penalty miss ~ ~ There was going to be at least 7 or 8 minutes injury time so that had probably 17 or 18 minutes to go after the penalty miss ~ ~ Plenty of time.
Southgate should not have taken off Saka ~ ~ Saka was destroying his marker.
Agree with the sentiments here. England were better - very good all round. Saka the pick of their players I think and not sure why Grealish came on so late. Would have caused trouble and brought something different.
England did a pretty good job on Mbappé.
I wonder if Southgate goes and, who would the possible replacements for him might be ?
In the English managerial merry go round, it's now time to bring in Johnny Foreigner again, so Bielsa or Martinez maybe.
If I could pick one manager I would pick Carlo Ancelotti ~ ~ Not saying that he would have any interest in the England job mind.
The thing about Ancelotti is that he can do the toughest of jobs with so little fuss ~ ~ So used to doing big pressure jobs in Italy / elsewhere and just handles it all with out a fuss.
Pepe missed a sitter at the end of their game. Maybe he wants to deflect from that. :-)
I did think refs left a lot go yesterday in both games. Maybe a reaction to the Argentina/Dutch game?
No harm either but I suppose ya need consistency and pretty much know what standards to expect from referees in such big matches.Quote:
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All tournament I think.Quote:
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I'm surprised Saka went off but overall I think England did more or less what they needed to do to win, but they just didn't win! Kane's one on one miss v Lloris in the first half was also poor by his standards. On replay it looked easier to take the ball with the inside of his left rather than the outside of his right. Had he done so he'd have got the lift needed to take it over Lloris. Gilt-edged Maguire chance from a free header, and he actually should also have scored after Lloris missed a cross - there was a big gap at the near post but he headed it back across goal. Second penalty...
I think Pickford was slow to read the curve on the first goal. I don't actually think he did see it late as Bellingham wasn't really in the way of seeing the ball. I think his dive was that of a keeper expecting the ball to be a few inches nearer to him. Griezmann's cross was magnificent but did Stones get caught under the ball again, like against Croatia?
Quite simply France won the big moments, including not being awarded a free just before France's first. Giroud had 2 good chances, took one (I'm not counting the low header at 0-0 as it was a poor cross), Kane had 3 and took one.
Jonathan Liew had a great article in today's Observer about this. France had big game / win tough know how, England didn't. If Kane's pen had gone in the momentum and belief was surely all theirs. It'd have taken some grit for France to steady the ship.
Just to round this off, the brother withdrew his claims that Wahl had been killed yesterday, saying he made them while in shock: https://twitter.com/ziplamak/status/1601831945587261440Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
Argentina are doing quite well so far. Saw Messi rubbing his hamstring earlier: the temptation to take him off soon enough will be quite big for Scaloni.
Comfortable in the end for Argentina.
Not sure about the penalty myself, but it was the second that really killed them. Croatia did so well for 25 minutes and suddenly they are 2-0 down.
But they couldn't get a sniff of a goal all night.
pen for me . happy to see the back of croatia , sick of seeing them not win games in 120mins and sneak through on pens