Tough luck but we will have to duag ourselves down and go again
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Tough luck but we will have to duag ourselves down and go again
Played well but thought second half they didn't do much . Lost it in Slovakia but much better. Header near the end could have gone in on another day
Win win there. Points for the aul co-efficient but Rovers don’t get to the next round :-p Very good performance all the same.
Lovely stuff.
Only watched from just before Rovers second goal but they looked decent ,just didnt trouble the keeper enough.....
He had just cause to be hiding behind his couch, as you seem to indicate. Rovers were unbelievably ordinary last week, and a classic example of every poor Euro defeat by an LOI side we've all seen down the years; sloppy loose play at both ends, and oceans of aimlessly hoofed away long balls, and eventual punishment for all of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
With that context in mind, fair play to anyone on here, and indeed Rovers fans who felt this tie wasn't over, cause I couldn't see them doing anything tonight, and have been proven well wide of the mark.
Tonight was completely the opposite, and Rovers played with a freedom of knowing away goals didn't count, and all over the field made Slovan look really poor. Scales was immense, having Towell, Burke and Mandriou on at the start threw Slovan off, and all of them played excellently. What a goal from Towell, a cracker, and great memories made. Honestly I think Lopes just falls over awkwardly in the buildup to their goal, but it was unfortunate. The referee was Anthony Buttimer levels of all over the shop, however.
Hopefully this is just the beginning of a succesful Euro run for them, and they can take great confidence forward with them IF they play like they played tonight.
Missed the game unfortunately.
Good result and from the live ticker on RTE , sound like it could have gone 3-1 at the end.
2 out of two wins is a decent nights work for the league.
It it weren't for the change of the backpass rule Joey Malone and Alan O'Neill would have won every game 0-0! Rules change, and id have loved away goals not to count when it suited!!Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
crazy to think Lincoln Red Imps from Gibraltar will get to the next round, and have their chance to parachute to the Europa League and then the Conference...
Flora Talinn also got lucky.
Fair play to Rovers. You could see the 2-0 had rattled Bratislava and they woke up and strung things together to get their needed goal. Just a pity to come so close. 2 wins for the coefficient tonight. So up to Bohs and Sligo to do their bit. Hoping at least Bohs get through!
Have to say that I really enjoyed that game, Rovers were much improved and will see this as a missed opportunity.
Towell's strike was unbelievable. Fancied Rovers after that especially if it got to extra time but alas a player with the quality of Weiss ended up being the difference.
Its such a shame how different the pathway becomes after winning or losing this 1st round qualifier. If Rovers and get past whoever they draw in the 3rd round qualifier they will all but guarantee themselves seeding in this round next year should they win the league.
Looking forward to the Sligo and Bohs games now, hopefully we can pick up another couple of wins and keep as many teams in Europe for as long as possible.
Champions league game refereed by a leinster senior league referee. Shambles of a human being. But enough about him.
Great battling performance by Rovers, albeit against a team who in all honesty looked half a€€ed at times.
Great leadership showed by Finner, and its no surprise that once Joey was back on the pitch we just look solid and composed. Towell, Mandriou and O'Neill worked hard in midfield and Gaffney was tireless up front.
Fully deserved victory for the Hoops and with that performance we can look forward to whoever we get in 3rd round of Europa conference. Just a shame it was ruined by officials who had little tor no control of the game.
Great atmosphere and noise by the 1,500 which was appreciated by the players it would seem.
Really disappointing to go out on a decision like that after playing so well, but we had chance to force extra time still. If we play like that we shouldn't be afraid of anyone in the Conference League, but still going to be tough. Just a pity we don't have a trip to Switzerland to look forward to.
As someone more neutral I don't see the referee not giving the free to Lopes being that egregious of a decision. Maybe I need to see it again but there seemed to be very little contact and Lopes should have delt with it instead of trying to buy a cheap free kick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
It was a fairly clear trip. Probably accidental but generally when someone trips you up you end up falling down.
Just saw this :) When you've watched as many LOI teams in Europe as I have you learn not to get excited too prematurely ; )Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
There's been a few games now with Rovers and Bradley where they've left it behind them for varying reasons but usually they've let themselves down in one of the legs. They should have enough experience in Europe now to be confident from minute 1 and play their own game.
The first leg was a bad performance, but I wouldn't go overboard. Slovan are a better side than Rovers, just like they were better than Dundalk a couple of years ago. You have to earn the right to play your own game against these teams - no LOI team is good enough to go out and dictate things.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
More accurate!Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Yeah, it's a good win, even if the aggregate result is a defeat. It's a positive to take into the Conference League tie.
I don't think I really buy this idea of "European experience" - it's just a game. And usually it's against a better side. You often lose games against better sides. It's up there with saying someone's ready for the step-up to international level - what step up?
They beat Slovan Bratislava 2-1, and only denied progression due to a controversial late goal. That's a Slovan side with almost 300 international caps in their squad and a central midfielder, and goalscorer, just home from the Euros.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
I don't think they done too badly, all things considered.
Ah but this Rovers team has had 4 or 5 European games as a group now against teams with different styles and varying multiples of budgetary superiority. They should be well able to go out and impose themselves against the likes of AC Milan or some chumps like the back to back double Slovakian champions away from home in 36 degree heat. Anything else is poor, poor, poor....
Gutting to lose the tie but the performance yesterday was encouraging for the rest of Europe and more importantly, the league. Having Joey back made a huge difference and Towell looked a lot sharper than he did in the away leg or the Dundalk game. It makes a difference when you have your best team available and match fit. We lost a bit when O'Neill went off but on balance certainly deserved to win the game and maybe deserved extra time if you look at both legs as a whole.
Ref wasn't great in the second half (poor tackles on Burke and O'Neill were ignored but O'Neill could also have gone for a second yellow) and I think Lopes was actually fouled twice for their goal (arm in the back and the trip) but I can see how the ref thought it was more of a tangle. Ironically that's how I think the peno-that-wasn't against Dundalk also panned out. Scales probably pushed and tripped Duffy but from the refs perspective it looked like they both brought each other down and Duffy didn't actually have the ball. If you slow it down Duffy had gotten a beautiful touch in front of Scales to control the ball and direct it away right before his leg brings Scales down on top of him. So we've had some bad and good luck. I'd have traded a peno to Dundalk for a chance to go through in the CL though.
Will Bohemians get 6,000 fans out to watch them take on Stjarnan at the Aviva Stadium tonight?
I hope so!:waving:
I didnt say dictate things, but there's a feeling again that they could have got more. And on stus point about European experience, i've read every single year about managers mentioning European experience and getting a feel for the opposition or some other parlance. Being cautious is sensible, but being naive and sloppy isn't playing your own game - or maybe in some instances it is!Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Well it sold out pretty quicklyQuote:
Originally Posted by nr637
It's still just a game of football though.
OK, so you don't know the opposition as well as Bohs or Sligo or whoever - but they don't know you either. I think the phrase is a cliche for the most part.
I think your post does Slovan a big disservice - it's not reasonable to expect Rovers, a lesser team, to go into a match against Slovan, play their own game from the first minute as you suggest, and be comfortable throughout.
Did not hear/see that anywhere, but if so, great news for the club and the league promotion. I suppose Sligo have had no problem with their allowance of 400!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah
Irish sides can clearly play at an increased level when they really believe there's a chance to win as Rovers showed the other night, rather than the opposite attitude of "Sure we're only small fry anyway, let's try not to get thrashed".
I know it's a cliche but the attitude of the European opposition for LOI teams (particularly when they are favourites) when playing teams here has a large part to do with it.
Slovan gave the impression the other night by their performance that they assumed the tie was over before they arrived. Once it went to 2:2 on aggregate they upped their tempo and pinned us back for 10 mins till they scored. Even though they are in pre season they were the better team over 2 legs.
https://twitter.com/bfcdublin/status...980345857?s=21Quote:
Originally Posted by nr637
I think that's fair/accurate but that doesn't mean rovers couldn't have knocked them out. I'd agree with Bradley about extra time , they definitely upped the pace, but they were leggy looking and extra time would have suited rovers but not them.Quote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
No matter what level any match is at sides will have periods of dominance, or imposing themselves, and be on the back foot and digging in at other times. I would think that Rovers expended a lot of energy getting back in to the tie, so even in preseason Slovan had a bit left in the tank but they were hitting the panic button too. I do think that greater belief could have been shown in the past by Irish sides rather then the initial setting out to contain. By Irish sides I include the international side as how many times did we see something of a performance when let off the leash needing to chase a game - difference between France home and away in WC qualifier, arugably Rovers the other night. That said to use the Stephen Kenny's Dundalk teams, the absolute belief in being able to compete at all times was refreshing but could be too gung-ho, there were times containing the opposition would have been prudent, an additional result in 2016 EL groups and we were fully in the mix for last 32, we chased winners in games where we probably should have settled, late 2nd goal v Legia at home another example, chasing an equaliser rather than taking it to Warsaw and see where it went. Slovan undoubtedly had a bit more about them but it wasnt much and the agg score bears that out. You do need to get the calls go your way too though, I'm still ****ed at that penalty given against Boyle v Legia, wasnt a peno then under updated rules, and definitely wouldnt be now! If Rovers had the ref sway a tad their direction who knows.Quote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
Sligo and Bohs are in good positions today, and I think in both fortune will favour the brave, and there is less need for sides to drop deeper and deeper in fear of the sucker punch way goal the longer a game goes on. Easy said!
Any of tonight's fixtures on TV or streams anywhere ?
Both on LOI TV,a tenner for each stream I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
Looks like it here but hate those auto cameras.
If the commentary was any good it would help but the Bohs fella the last day sounded bored out of his skull
https://www.loitv.ie/en-int/playerpage/744832
The camera man could be doing a lot better here
It's all poorly setup.
Do others get a sound lag? Actually maybe more a visual lag, ye know something has just happened before an incident in play.
That should have been a goal. Awful finish
No, but for 10 euro you shouldn't be getting anythingQuote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Hmmm I think I know what you mean;)Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Poor stuff, never a free but FH only chance. Brutal stuff