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I remember being impressed at the grace of Adrian Mutu striking the ball and then volleying the richochet with his other foot, but I can't remember seeing someone fouling a player with one foot and then the other on consecutive steps like that in a while. It's a veritable ballet of cynical fouling.
Wouldn't be the first older player doing the nasty on a young fella through frustration etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by JR89
Should have been a sending off anyway ~ Where was VAR ?
Really shocking tackle and fully deserved a red. Shows how far off the pace Fabinho is. I can’t see him staying at Liverpool for much longer. Didn’t realise Ferguson turned Liverpool down.
Not looking too great for Ferguson although the extent remains to be seen. Absolute shame. Hoping the crutches is them just being cautious.
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The extent of the injury could now determine whether that is a possibility, with the Brazil international only shown a yellow card for the brutal challenge which resulted in Ferguson leaving the stadium on crutches.
“We are sorry for him (Ferguson),” the Brighton boss Roberto De Zerbi told beIN Sports. “The injury, we don’t know yet, but we will see in the next days and we hope for him and for the club that it will not be so important an injury.”
Var checked it and agreed with the refs decision of a yellow card.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
Yeah he felt there was a better pathway to come through at Brighton. While he likely would have gotten some chances at Liverpool given the talent he has its worked out really well for him. Back up to Danny Welbeck at 18 and impressing. Don't think it's green tinted glasses to say in a few years he'll get that move and made the right choice to avoid the big clubs at 16.Quote:
Originally Posted by third policeman
Did okay in the game, some good link play, noticeably dropped deep several times in second half. Probably should have placed his shot out of Trent’s reach in first half, could have scored in second half too but shot was blocked. More promising signs.
Fabinho’s tackle was bad. Don’t think there was enough impact for a break. He was non weight bearing after the game but expect that is precautionary. A couple of days of round the clock ice then time for imaging to get the outlook. I’m optimistic that it’s only some soft tissue damage and he will be back in a couple of weeks. Possibly ligaments though requiring a few additional weeks, but will be back even stronger after rehab
The impact wasn't the cause of concern for the injury. If you look at the physios treating him on ground it was was for the stability of the knee, they didn't even look at ankle area. He twisted it pretty badly. I believe he also left stadium in a knee brace so I'd be pretty concerned about it. Fingers crossed it's not as bad as it looksQuote:
Originally Posted by tommy_c12000
So an ACL is a potential outcome here then? That would be an absolute disaster for him at 18.
If it was his ACL, he wouldn't have been able to walk off the pitch
Hopefully that's not what it is, but I have seen people walk off with them before. Actually saw a guy play on for a few minutes with one in a GAA match at Croke Park once before giving up and walking off. Turned out afterwards it was an ACL. Anyway, hopefully not in this case.
Van Dijk walked off the pitch a couple of seasons ago after doing his ACL….Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
I hope Evan bides his time and gets an opportunity to exact his revenge on Fabinho at some stage.
No point possibly getting injured yourself doing that ~ ~ That is the job of some brutal Centre-Back ( only half joking )Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
When will we know the damage
He might be back.in time
Or am I a blind dreamer
Probably mightn't find out till Wednesday the latest but if we take it as Wednesday it's seven weeks till the Latvia game. He looked bad coming off and just hoping it's 7 or 8 weeks rather than 7 or 8 months at this stage.
I would take any outcome other than his knee being in pieces at this stage, we're on about the next ten years here hopefully rather than the coming ten weeks.
Would be the most Irish thing ever though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
Niall Quinn played on after doing his.Quote:
Originally Posted by joey B
I didn’t see them at his knee. That’s more of a concernQuote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
I think you actually see players more often than not walking off after an ACL.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Fingers crossed its not thar. As Crafty said, I'm not even that bothered about thr France game, I just don't want it to be this time next year before we see him again. Some never recover properly.
On the other hand I remember just before the world cup it looked like Varane had season ending injury and was distraught and he was grand in a couple weeks. Let's hope for the best
Reports that he was walking without crutches today at the U23 game. Positive sign?
Brighton have apparently moved to sign Vitinha from Braga when it looked like he was on his way to Southampton. Hopefully not a sign they expecting Ferguson out long term and more that he would be a replacement for Welbeck to partner Evan... I don't ever remember being this anxious waiting to hear the extent of an injury before.
They were looking for a CF anyway so wouldn’t read much into it regarding of Fergusons situation. Brighton are currently 6th and only have 2 CF’s who are remotely good enough for this level so needed a 3rd option to get them through the rest of the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
A lot of people said he was at the u21s game last night as a spectator and looked fine, hopefully our luck with injuries might be turning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Definitely a lucky break if reports are correct and it's not a long term injury.
In general terms, leaving aside the Ferguson situation, I think our perceived bad luck in terms of player injuries is vastly overstated. Injuries are part of the game so you can always expect a few to crop up. But, just taking right now as an example, we're half way through a season and there are hardly any Irish players injured other than Ferguson. The only ones long term injured that I can think of are Glen Rea, JJ Kayode and Warren O'Hora, and they're nowhere near an Ireland squad anyway.
The injuries thing is magnified by desperation. In a time we were desperate for promising youth players to come good, O'Shea, Idah, and Obamidele all had long term injuries, while Obafemi's hamstrings seem to be made largely of thoughts and prayers.
Careful Now ! !Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
I think it's like the young players going to Celtic debate. We're just focused on Irish players going there and not making it but the truth is that players from all over the world go to Celtic and don't make it but that's the same for Real Madrid, Man utd, Bayern Munich and so on, it's just more of ours go to Celtic.
It's great news if Ferguson's injury isn't too bad. The good start to the year rolls on.
https://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...-42320514.html
Dan McDonnell's article in the Indo says it's not a long term injury. Short term story is still being assessed.
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Professional Game Match Officials Limited (PMGOL), the body that oversees referees, have subsequently admitted that the Brazilian should have received a red card for a studs above the ankle tackle from behind.
I suppose that could mean he's still out for March but I'd take that compared to how things looked on Sunday evening.
game v France is 2 months away
He will be grand unless it's a long term injury. Which it appears not to be
Lads, we're going to beat France and Ferguson is going to score. Even with Kenny in charge. You heard it here first.
As if we needed any more proof that the boy was super human - that tackle didn't injure him seriously? Amazing if true..
Still not over the fact it wasn't a red.
Ok, what have you done with the real Boomshakalala ;) ?Quote:
Originally Posted by BOOMSHAKALAKA
On the main topic, I’m very uneasy about the level of expectation we’re heaping on a lad who is still just 18 years old. No doubt he has massive potential, but we shouldn’t necessarily be expecting him to be our saviour at this point. Of course, if he plays against France and makes no impact, no doubt we’ll have people coming forward saying he isnt all that.
I wouldnt be too concerned with the France game Tony, for me he is obviously good enough to play now but the exciting thing is that he is genuinely a talent who could develop into a World Class player in the not too distant future.Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyD
The expectation comes with the territory. All top class players deal with it and he seems like hes taking it all in his stride so far.
Update on his injury. Thankfully looks like he’ll be back pretty quickly although B&HA haven’t confirmed a return timeline. A bruised bone (think Kingdom had that one weekend).
https://www.the42.ie/evan-ferguson-i...urce=shortlink
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EVAN FERGUSON HAS not suffered any ligament damage in his knee with The42 learning that scans showed up bruising of the bone in the affected area.
Encouragingly, there has also been no structural damage to the 18-year-old’s knee and it now remains a possibility he will return to Premier League action in time to be available for Ireland’s opening Euro 2024 qualifier with France next month.
Brilliant news all round. Brighton showing serious faith in him by not signing Vitinha. Also puts a lot of pressure on him but he seems to be dealing with it OK for now.
In a few years time, himself and Collins could bring us up a few levels all by themselves.
Just on a side note, that Vitinha lad is from the same small town as my wife so I've watched a bit of him. He's not bad, but if he's a 30 Million player Ferguson is worth 100 million alreadyQuote:
Originally Posted by ontheotherhand