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Seriously though, just make the decision about the licences. The justification will be plucked from thin air anyway.
Loved TBs answer on RTE soccer podcast in his response to TBC he said it stood for Treaty Boys Club! Superb answer!Quote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
Worth noting that Derry have announced their pre-season fixtures which includes their final game against shamrock rovers B
I guess Rovers will still have a B Team, whether it's playing in the LOI or not (?)Quote:
Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract
So that Dublin County thing is not a spoof?!
Are u not supposed to have an underage section to be in the league? Will they do what bohs have done (call st kevins their underage section) by hooking up with a junior club?? Home farm or belvo would be candidates i guess.
Looks like our new clubs are coming from..........wait for it........Dublin......and......Limerick!
So much for spreading the word.
I actually can't believe they are even entertaining applications from more manufactured Dublin clubs. Fair enough, if an established Dublin schoolboy or intermediate club wants to make the step up and have a plan in place to do so I'd have no problem with that being considered. Any Sporting Fingal or Dublin City style nonsense should be dismissed out of hand. They aren't viable, and never will be viable. Applications from these type of spoofers need to be filed straight into the bin.
This question and a similar comment previously in the thread really shows up the general perception of the FAI. Not knowing whether a proposed club's license application is a joke or not speaks volumes on the process and how administrators of the game are perceived and with a significant lack of belief in them making good decisions for the league and the sport. If it was a spoof it cause nervous laughter rather than any lols.Quote:
Originally Posted by ger121
Given that St Francis an established junior club with a LOI pedigree were "encouraged" to defer their application you would have to think that eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by Sonny
a) Dublin County will be rejected
b) St Francis will be rightly ****ed off.
c) Next years (2022) division 1 will have applications from St Francis amongst others
Especially in a season where clubs are effectively being funded by the Government, it makes no sense to be bringing in new ones. (Limerick I can allow obviously)
It's been said before, we're badly in need of a proper pyramid system here. 100+ years we've been operating closed-shop systems (even in the Leinster Leagues) and the only sure way for clubs to move up is for another one to die, and the only sure way for clubs to move down is for them to die. It's daft.
I still think its crazy that Rovers have a second team in the league. Something that is not on offer to any other club
this Dublin County farce is a much bigger threat to the integrity to the League and to the First Division in particular than Rovers II.
I saw mention on twitter (Dan O'Donnell I think) that the Extratime report might be a little previous in that they may have been approved for a licence but that's no guarantee that they'll be awarded a spot in the league.
Fingers crossed that these carpetbaggers are shown the door
Actually it was on offer to every club but rovers were the only one to take up the offer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiki Balboa
Its a natural development path for our best academy kids in which we are investing a fortune.
There's a fishing post if ever I saw one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiki Balboa
You know well that what you've written isn't even remotely true.
The league are struggling for well run, stable sides, so they are clearly happy to take on any club that shows an interest to trying to compete whilst showing basic, sound financial stability. Whether stab city 11 or sporting final v2.0 or B&I Utd or any of the other proposed entrants into the league survive or thrive we'll just have to wait and see, but the frankly laughable attitude towards Rovers II by some of the 1st division clubs, who have barely the arse in their trousers themselves, needs to be called out, for once and for all, imo.
I agree with this and I'm a fan of a first division club. I think their reason was it would affect the integrity of the division! What integrity?
Just need one "Bohs will be dominated by this new club" to win the sbgawa bingo.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Whats wrong with my post?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
Genuine question about how they get in with no underage set up..
Belvo and home farm have been left behind by the National league process hence i think they may be candidates.
To put your mind at rest i dont think this lot will dominate anyone, bottom half of first division while trying to bring in usa based youngsters is the likely outcome.
IMO considering their history in the LOI if they are admitting an extra capital based LOI side its either Home Farm or St Francis imo. I would be disgusted if DC would be allowed in. It would be another Sporting Fingal fiasco.
I see Monaghan United are joining the Ulster Senior League. Any appetite there to make it back to LOI level?
There's a Monaghan & Cavan side in the youth leagues, I had always assumed those teams (Kerry League,Mayo League etc) have long term plans to set up a LOI side but none of them seem that eager
Having MagicMe back would be good considering past foot.ie regulars in the other thread. Hope she is good and well these days. Gortakeegan is scarce on good memories for me but would still love to see them back in senior football. I'm sure it has to be an aspiration if it can be sustained without just a few people busting themselves to keep things going. Hopefully joining the USL is a stepping stone back to LoI, helping with players development pathway for the region - that I think Dundalk should be dipping into when there isnt a LoI senior side!Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
Magicme is abroad now Nesta shes in Indonesia one of those countries.Has being out there since Monaghan got out of the loi.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
That's taking the loss of your team pretty hard !Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
Jakarta Mondogs!!! worth millions, and a preseason away trip - more than one way to build a LoI brand in Asia than signing a player. Hope she is well, I would head off if Dundalk left LoI too though North Korea for me - sure Bray is only up the road!Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
Yeah she does still be on facebook and instagram Magicme. Last time I met her was in 2011 after we played them in Longford.
I know it's not quite the right thread but don't think it deserves a new one because the conversation has been done to death at this stage.
Looking at the split season happening in Belgium, Scotland etc I think it's something which should be looked at for our league. Increasing the amount of important games and generally increasing interest around the end of the season with similar ability teams playing each other more often. Not sure what the rest of ye think but I would say the move to a 10 team premier division has been a pretty decent success. Teams like Harps, Longford, Waterford have been able to build much more competitive squads with a smaller division. I think the next step now is to move away from the standard home and away format and playoff system that we've taken from England and come up with something which can generate public interest over a month or two instead of just one or two matches involving a handful of teams at the end of the season.
And actually more related to the discussion of potential new clubs. I know that it was a complete disaster but why exactly did the A championship fail so badly? Is the suggestion of a third tier in Irish football still off limits a decade on from that failed attempt?
Without really knowing the ins and outs on what would make it work, it seems like we could be better set for the concept now. It seems like more clubs are considering the step up to senior football so that they can compete in the national underage leagues. Couple this with clubs like Shamrock Rovers who are now actively looking to get a second team playing on the national stage it seems like it would have a better chance of succeeding than before.
It probably sounds premature but in theory I think the FAI could set a start date for a third tier in 2023 and work with any interested clubs in the meantime to get them in a position for senior football by that date.
I'm aware that the possibility of an All Ireland League could play havoc to this idea but I'm choosing to ignore that for now because there's such little substance to it at the moment
Im basing my opinion on a split season done here previouslly 93/94 was it? It was a disaster and nearly killed clubs with dismal crowds outside of the title challengers. As per usual with tinkering with league formats it was probably ill conceived and rushed through by the clubs then running the league. Maybe there are tweaks to a format to try and keep things interesting but a lot of those are gimmicks imo eg European Conference play-off somehow for teams outside the top 3 and cup winners. I think there is a lot more to do before we continue to try and come up with some format that will have any baring on things. The first step is always going to be the same and thats increased investment via FAI prizemoney, overall improving facilities, standards, and the general public barometer of European ranking. Everything else is window dressing. The recently used example of the plans issued by Linfield would be a nice starting point albeit needed for the whole league - I wouldnt care if it was completely cogged as long as there is real buy-in and ambition to attain any stated goals.
Howdy all, slight change of username as couldn't access my old account. My lugs were burning with you talking about me so I decided to come in and say hi.
Am thrilled we are joining the USL and I know there has been a fantastic team of people working at the club over the last few years ensuring juvenile football was maintained. It's why we pulled out of the league rather than go bust. We wanted to protect community football. I feel we were vindicated as Gortakeegan is still a hotbed of football activity.
I myself haven't been involved much since we left the league and as stated by Marty, I headed off to sunnier climes. I didn't leave right away, stuck around until 2017. My youngest had started uni, I had no football and didn't see much point sticking around.
Travelled a bit then fell in love with Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia and was based there and exploring Asia until came back to Monaghan in November to be with my family.
Anyhow, am hoping will get to see a few games before I go back to KL but my jerseys are over there so will have to get a new one. 😁
I don't think there's anything wrong with the current format, but I agree there needs more tiers to it.
Scanlon has mentioned that he's working on a pyramid. Relegation out of the First Division is crucial to improve the standard of it.
As Nesta says improving facilities, prizemoney etc., is badly needed and the FAI are actively helping clubs to apply for grants.
The only thing I could see wrong with the A Championship was that a team could finish 5th, behind four B teams, but be the highest placed first-team and get promoted ala Mervue and Salthill Devon.
The other problem with the A Championship is that it was just an extension of our current daft non-pyramid system. The Tralee Dynamoes case illustrates that well. They left their District League, had no games for a number of months due to a change in season, and then when the A Championship folded they again had no games for a number of months while they changed back to winter football, and started at the bottom of the Kerry league again, a couple of divisions below where they had been.
Why would any club bother their hole with that?
From what I can gather, Monaghan United joined the USL as it's going to effectively become a third tier alongside the LSL and MSL top divisions. No idea what's happening with Connacht, but probably makes more sense to make a regional league there with the USL, due mostly to a lack of teams.
Are Monaghan Utd and Cavan/Monaghan related in any way? Could Monaghan use them to tick the box for underage LOI?
Monaghan United/Cavan Football Partnership is the full name of the underage team. It's effectively Monaghan United with a bit of extra help from Cavan/Monaghan underage leagues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bucket
Hold on - what?Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Any insight on that - when or how? The season change is a big issue to resolve first of course, and that's before the politics enters into it.
But it'd be huge news if it were even actively in the pipelines.
No idea how it'll work, when it's to take place, but Monaghan haven't joined a dying league for nothing. Just what I was told from someone involved within the league, who I'd normally trust to be fairly on the spot with info.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
USL press release mentioned having positive approaches with other clubs about stepping up to it too, which would add up, as more clubs have gone away from it in recent years, leaving a 5 team league before Monaghan joined.
Yeah Nesta it was such a weird ending to the season. Think it could ave being 92/93 season as far as I remember .But it was definitley the mid 90s.
92/93 and 93/94
It did give relegation threatened clubs a sort of 2nd crack of the whip to get out of trouble but clubs that were top of the 2nd tier in the split and probably those bottom of the tope end split it was meaningless so interest fell off. It was just going to games as a sense of duty, flat atmosphere with a lot of stalwars just not bothering too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II