They were reporting it as if it's real news on Newstalk earlier as well, also sighting 'reports'. A bit underwhelming that The Star seems to be the source but hopefully it comes good.
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They were reporting it as if it's real news on Newstalk earlier as well, also sighting 'reports'. A bit underwhelming that The Star seems to be the source but hopefully it comes good.
agree 1,000,000 %Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Im very curious if we will get a statement today from Rice or if it was the media up to thier old tricks
https://twitter.com/Jayoconnor8/stat...491234816?s=19Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Jason is still waiting patiently too.
We were hoping you might be able to tell us, Jay.
He is now saying on his twitter account "He never said it {for} sure, which doesn't fill me full of confidence, but lets wait and see to be fairQuote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
*tumbleweed bounces by...*
Anyone else get a mild panic attack when this thread is bumped?
https://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...-37311050.html
Still in the dark.
Not that he was as sought after as O'Brien but nice word from Aiden O'Brien on his choice at the bottom, demonstrating his genuine pride at debut goal.
Love that from O’Brien.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
Love his attitude.
We could do with more like him.
Thought he held the ball up really well the other night too.
I’d have him ahead of Robinson in the pecking order for sure. And possibly Hogan.
I wouldn't say O'Brien and Robinson are in direct competition. O'Brien is competing with Long and Walters for the strong target man role. Robinson, Hogan, Maguire and Burke are probably all competing for a role off one of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
I wonder if Cairney turns southgate down, would it put a little pressure on Rice to stay with Ireland and vice verus
https://www.football.london/fulham-f...w-tom-15176545
There is nothing in that article to suggest Cairney is thinking about switching or England are looking to call him up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
Cairney was genuinely injured for Scotland's September games - that's the reason he didn't play.
It's clickbait rubbish.
Stephen Kelly on radio today saying with Rice's good performances it's increasingly likely he will opt for the Brits
It makes me sick, everytime he plays well he is on his way to England, everytime he is dropped he might stay with Ireland
When did we lose such confidence in ourselves. We are a brilliant country, small but great. I really hate this selling ourselves short business
I'm not a big fan of ultimatums, but I do think in this case he should decide before the next squad is announced
Its grossly unfair on the management team and the fans to continue to "deliberate"
When? Could it have been during the home game against Austria last campaign?Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
Or maybe it was after those imposters in green shirts took the field in Georgia the following September?
Or maybe as recently as our last game in Cardiff? Who knows?
But what I do know is when you continue to play like muck, eventually muck sticks to the wall.
We are a brilliant country. Absolutely true. But we continue to accept mediocrity and pretend that its greatness.
We know what it takes to become great. Just ask our rugby players. They didn't become feared across the world by sitting there and complaining and pointing fingers at one another.
They worked their tails off, unlike the FAI and LOI who have spent all of my lifetime failing to get out of their own way.
A completely different sport, but I am a big fan of the New England Patriots. I have watched that team come up from their bootstraps twenty years ago.
They never accepted mediocrity and fixed problems any time they arose. They are the greatest team I have ever seen in any sport and it was a joy to see how hard work and correct decision making can reach
the highest of all highs and beyond. To be a supporter of Ireland and the New England Patriots at the same time is a classic example
of how to do things and how not to do them (ie to tear one's hair out on a regular basis).
ah yes... the good old rugby team (or insert whatever irish team is doing well at the time as a stick to hit the football team with) comparison. how many countries actually take rugby seriously?Quote:
Originally Posted by mark12345
and remind me again how many knock out matches our rugby team have won in a WC in 8 attempts??
from that articleQuote:
Originally Posted by IsMiseSean
he can't play in the England U21s next month. He's played for Ireland U21s in the 2019 UEFA U21 Championship qualifiers, and cannot represent another side in the same tournament - same as when Grealish took a year out so he could play for England U19s after playing for the Ireland U19sQuote:
O'Neill later confirmed that London-born Rice had spoken to Gareth Southgate and his England set-up about switching his international allegiances away from Ireland and a source has now told Independent.ie that the 19-year-old could be named in the England under-21 squad as early as next month before receiving a first senior England call-up in November.
That's correct, So I would be of the opinion that we can dismiss the indo article anywayQuote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Jesus,this is torture.
Does anyone think he might stay with us?
Not reallyQuote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
Ludicrously poor reporting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
Yes , he’s using this England talk as a bargaining chip to get a better deal at West Ham , once the contract is signed he will declare his wish to remain with Ireland , he’s Irish after all why wouldn’t he
Sometimes its better to stay optimistic or am just in denial
That Kevin Palmer should have a chat with himself. I have to assume he's using the Daily Mail as his English reports: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...eek-offer.html
Incidentally, I must laugh at the most Daily Mail paragraph possible in that article:
"Rice, who speaks with a London accent, qualifies for the Republic through his grandparents, but was born in the English capital to English parents."
I know its a bit mental, but i emailed Palmer about the u21 regulations. He should know the rules before writing an articleQuote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
Proper order. He could at least run the article by someone like Dan McDonnell, who knows what they're talking about, before publishing it. Or maybe he did and Dan hadn't a clue either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
The regulations are pretty obvious. You would have to imagine that there would be no way he could play for both England and Ireland under 21 within a few months.
I actually thought his Da was born in IrelandQuote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
Nope. Both his parents were born in Cork though and I'm assuming he heavily identifies Irish, as a result, given that he named his son Declan, that he had Declan in with us once he could and judging by the smile on his face after the debut.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
I can't help thinking that if England had had a poor World Cup that this wouldn't be an issueQuote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
Don't drive yourself crazy thinking about it. The bottom line is, we bent over backwards for this kid, including bringing him in to train with our senior national team before he had even played in the league. If he defects he has let down dozens of people within our senior management and also within our under age set up, all of whom took a chance on him and gave him his break.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
A stick to hit the football team with? I am in no way hitting the football team. I am hitting out at those who are tasked with running the game in Ireland, who continually let us down.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
The original point was about Declan Rice and why he isn't (or at least appears not to be) coming on board with us. If he has watched any of our games
of late, he knows that we are still way, way off the pace when it comes to the international game. He likely reckoned if he threw his lot in with us he
would go nowhere, whereas it might be a different story with England. I don't like the way he appeared to use people along the way, but that's the way its turned out.
As far as the Irish rugby team goes, they are arguably the second best in the world right now. You can talk all you want about knock out games, but to win the Grand Slam
in the Six Nations is something which takes a right bit of doing. And we have proved we can beat the best from the Southern Hemisphere also. I am not a rugby fan, but if I am honest
I really admire what the Irish team has done with odds stacked against them on several occasions. I could say the same about Ireland's boxers, amateur and professional. Sort of wish the FAI and LOI could show as much
committment to football in Ireland. I hear its changing with the youth which is good news. But it's long long overdue.
really?Quote:
Originally Posted by mark12345
Quote:
Originally Posted by mark12345
Fully agree that not a whole lot more could have been done in bringing Declan Rice on board, He has played 3 times for our Senior Team and to defect now would be really,really poor behaviour on his part. I think this whole saga is intertwined with his ongoing contract talks at West Ham . It looks like we will have to wait for a conclusion to his contract talks before he clarifies his International intentions. I for one find this totally unacceptable.
I think the rule needs to change around the amount of friendly games played in succession and/or a time limit of say 3 years.
If any player willing to play a friendly was told that he would then have to wait 3 years before he could switch, he wouldnt be so quick to use it as a stepping stone
Yeah some change in the rules would make sense alright.
There was talk on YBIG about Rice demanding considerably more than he has been offered by West Ham and that David Gold has made accepting his terms contingent on him being an England international, raising his market value. Right now I'm not sure what international jersey he wears will influence his transfer value. He's one of the hottest young prospects in the EPL and anyone can see that. If I was a buyer I'd prefer an Irish player over an African (due to winter ACoN duty every 2 years) and also Irish over English because he's less likely to be knackered every second summer!