I wouldn't be hopeful to be honest. Man Utd are playing in the FA Cup final on the same day. That will keep a few at home/in the pub. That an factoring in that it is the cup and recent results...
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1724 in the Showgrounds for Bohs.
I wouldn't have thought it was even close to the worst ever home league attendance for Pats. All clubs suffer dips at various points especially end of season and for games like these but more so in obvious leaner seasons. I think I remember a Pats league game on a Saturday at 2pm live on rte tv, maybe in 2012 and there were around 400-500 at it.
One of Dundalk's more recent low points was v Bray, last regular game of the dreadful 2012 season, think only 260 turned up, less myself! Thankfully around 1,300 more turned up for the play off game a week later v Waterford.
Really? It always seemed to me in Oriel that cup games got people out that wouldnt necessarily be regulars for league games. If anything it was regulars that skipped off the early cup rounds depending on the draw. I always found it interesting to see non-league teams and have a look at their level, Ashtownvilla, Malahide aside:mad:
Pat's v Fingal as Partysaint says is correct. There was also a game against Bohs - which I think was a Saturday afternoon in 2010 and possibly the same day that Setanta later showed Rovers v Fingal - which was poorly attended. There was also an away game v Fingal on a Saturday at ... i think... midday again, which had an attendance of about 200 - despite both clubs and media reporting 7-800!
Would Pats be the worst supported of the traditional big 4 in Dublin?
Bit of trivia for you now. Pat's record home league attendance is 22,789. It was in the 1954-55 season v Rovers. Pat's were based at Chapelizod but the FAI ordered the game be moved to Dalymount due to the expected high crowd. Rovers won it 5-0. They also played Waterford at Dalymount the same year in a 'home' game that had a crowd of 21,000. Of course you won't read a lot about crowds like that now because records that are kept and easily available only take into account Richmond Park.
Continuing with this, I think Monaghan's record 'home' league attendance would have been 5 or 6k, they played Derry around 85-87 but the game was moved to Oriel Park, to accommodate the huge Derry following that was the order of the day back then. I was at it, and I remember the huge Derry crowd that day.
Dundalk also played a good few league 'home' games in Mons and previously Drogs around 2005, while the infamous pitch was being laid, I don't remember figures, but I think one in Mons had less than 200, depressing times.
I also remember watching Bohs playing a uefa cup game in Oriel Park as a kid, in the late 70's, possibly v East European side? This was due to crowd trouble in Dalymount a season previous, and also Dlk played a euro match in Drogs in 1995 v Malmo as another pitch was being installed, grass this time!
A steady decline in Pat`s support over the past 5 years , notwithstanding a rare cup success , European competition every year and challenging for the league most years. The Bohs attendance, with us scrapping for survival and to avoid relegation, has increased.
I have no doubt that if Pats moved to Tallaght they would match Rovers for crowds.
If you knocked on every door in Dublin and asked which LOI side they'd support, Pats would be 4th, a fair way behind Shels and a long way off Rovers and Bohs.
But in terms of a hardcore support that attends the match no matter how good or bad things are on the pitch, Pats are miles ahead of Shels, arguably on a similar footing with Bohs and Rovers.
While not a Dundalk 'home' game in Monaghan the bizarrest one for me was being refused entry to Gortakeegan due to foot and mouth, so it ended up being a bunch of Dundalk fans standing on the hill over looking the ground among the damn cows that Monaghan United had such particular concern for. There hadn't been any no travelling support or behind close doors talk that anyone was aware of. Monaghan would have lost out on a significant gate and bar sales on what was an ongoing issue after a dispute/argument in the stand in Oriel with a Monaghan director and a designated seat season ticket holder. Around that time Dundalk changed in Oriel before heading to Monaghan as the away changing rooms in Gortakeegan were hosed down and soaked to the point of flooding so there was nowhere dry to change or put clothes when kitting out. All a bit childish but there ye go - magicme was probably the main culprit :p
Can we have a round up/ summary of the year to date please , crowds seem to down all round, would be nice to know either way. TIA.
Finally....up to Week 11.
PREMIER DIVISION
Bohs - 1,921 (1,724; 1,395; 1,597; 1,496; 1,488; 1,835; 2,366)
Bray - 874 (769; 718; 891; 965; 1,121; 952; 1,169)
Cork - 2,840 (3,263; 3,777; 1,965; 2,786; 2,128 FD; 1,693 FD; 2,681)
Derry - 2,083 (1,124; 1,106; 1,446; 1,460; 2,135; 1,965 FD; 2,436)
Dundalk - 2,550 (3,158; 2,534; 1,997; 949; 1,355; 1,877; 2,371)
Galway - 1,315 (1,290; 975 FD)
Harps - 1,577 (784 FD; 449 FD; 479 FD; 429 FD; 433 FD; 644 FD; 480 FD) -
Longford - 569 (803; 567 FD; 379 FD; 365 FD; 315 FD; 230 FD; 260 FD)
Pat's - 1,279 (1,321; 1,386; 1,687; 1,474; 1,346; 1,756; 1,631)
Rovers - 2,257 (2,890; 2,269; 2,763; 3,127; 3,779; 3,794; 3,611)
Sligo - 1,969 (1,750; 1,959; 2,342; 3,007; 2,103; 1,807; 1,756)
Wexford - 645 (553 FD; 331 FD; 227 FD; 302 FD; 216 FD; 343 FD; 494 FD)
FIRST DIVISION
Athlone - 188 (314; 653 PD; 754; 271; 200; 354; 462)
Cabinteely - 493 (610)
Cobh - 378 (366; 223; 439; 2008 - 1,122 PD; 681; 368; 403)
Drogheda - 618 (813 PD; 1,064 PD; 817 PD; 977 PD; 811 PD; 859 PD; 1,106 PD)
Limerick - 1,353 (1,206 PD; 757 PD; 1,649 PD; 734; 569; 598; 429)
Shels - 581 (596; 713; 1,114 PD; 1,187 PD; 781; 737; 972)
UCD - 288 (216; 397 PD; 487 PD; 506 PD; 558 PD; 610 PD; 272)
Waterford - 403 (460; 470; 478; 453; 466; 619; 434)
PREMIER AVERAGE: 1,642 (1,681; 1,502; 1,566; 1,630; 1,547; 1,512; 2,010)
FIRST DIVISION AVERAGE: 549 (486; 495; 391; 372; 578; 682; 417)
OVERALL AVERAGE: 1,251 (1,249; 1,160; 1,140; 1,125; 1,110; 1,095; 1,175)
TOTAL WEEKLY ATTENDANCE: 11,167 (Week 11: Including St Pats v Harps)
OVERALL PREMIER ATTENDANCE: 129,749 (332,805; 297,334)
OVERALL FIRST ATTENDANCE: 24,170 (54,474; 55,408)
OVERALL COMBINED ATTENDANCE: 153,919 (387,279; 352,742)
Unless the trend changes it seems that the league is going to have a fall in attendances this year.
Dundalk's crowds are well down on 2015, however the bigger attendance games of Rovers, Bohs and Pats all come in series 2.
Also, apart from the final game of 2014, matches v Cork have not been in the top 3 in terms of crowds. Last season didn't help as it was played in a downpour on a Sunday 3 days after playing BATE at home.
Sorry for going back to the 1980s again but Oriel's post got me thinking and I had a look online at Derry's reports the year they joined the league. Understandably Derry brought big crowds to all the First Division grounds they visited. Couldn't find the Monaghan game in Oriel but 6,000 attended when the two played in Brandywell. 7-8000 the normal for their home games and ... I think... 12,000 v Home Farm in the very first game is considered the record? May be wrong though.
FYI: Cup 1/4s that year: Rovers v Bohs at Dalymount had crowd of 5,000. Cork City v Derry at Flower Lodge had 10,000!
Two other big league crowds spring to mind, both RDS at the start when Rovers moved. Was it 24k v Pats and down to 11.5k v Derry two weeks later?
I think they settled in at around 3-4K after, but Rovers fans will know more, i think this was early 90's when they moved to RDS, they def won the league when playing there 93/94.
First game was October 1990 and they played there until the end of the 1995/96 season (so the guts of 6 seasons). Definitely weren't averaging near 3k at the end
The official figure given for Rovers for that first game was around 22,000. In his most recent book Robert Goggins said that the chairman ( Mr McNamara - can't remember his first name!) estimated this figure and the correct accurate figure isn't known. I have the Indo from the following morning and there are three different estimated figures given across their news/sport and feature articles on the game. 22,000 seems to be the accepted figure now.
I knew the attendance would be low tonight.. not this bad though. 15 minutes til kick off and barely 300 here
Waterford v Longford - 268
1250/1300 in Oriel tonight for v Shels i'd guess.Was seriously worried we'd dip under the or go close to the 1,000 mark tonight but actually turned oot that there was a decent crowd up and good atmosphere to.
Limerick v Bluebell 546
I expected in and around that communions all over the city today plus a 2pm kick off guys working etc
Bumper crowd in Richmond no more than 400-450.
Official attendance Athlone Town vs Letterkenny Rovers is 57. Protest outside gates by supporters looking for chairman and board to.step down. About 25 doing that and looks like some regulars that never miss games just didn't bother and protested by not turning up.
Will any of you make the replay.
Also aware of people that attend all he games refusing to pass protest and going home.