Who's Gonna Win FAI Junior Cup 2004/05

We should be concentrating on the facts here ... He will play , there will be no objection as there is obviously no point ...

Lets hope that the controversy ends here and Park can do all the rule writers a favour by going down and knocking WC out of the comp ...

This site seems to be filled with people harping on about the Lim sides while the other teams are allowed go about their business with the minimum of fuss ..

All you Bellurgan , Killester , Galway Hibs & Wesport supportters out there have anything to say ...

I can also see a good debate between Kingpin & TT in the offing. Looks like something akin to the Pike/Fairview rivalry this side of the country !!!

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Originally Posted by The Gaffer

Kingpin,
Who is the illegal player??? Did the FAI not throw this out on numberous occasions? Is this bitterness on your behalf? You say you are more than a Carrick supporter, it ****es me off when individuals/clubs in leagues wont support there own. I was at last years final in the RSC and was standing with at least 8 to 9 Crystal members all of whom were shouting for Carrick. Im not a Crystal member myself

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If you read the last post i made, i wished crystal the best of luck and hold no bitterness against them. I'm not going to start naming players, carrick were late with their objection and the other objection was sent with a cheque instead of a postal order and that was dismissed. Im a carrick man through and i hope crystal do well that does'nt mean i have to go down and shout them on like a fanatical supporter. Just because it was thrown out on the other occasion does'nt mean he is legal, believe me I've seen this happen a lot over the last few years with different objections. Every year we as a club seemed to be getting screwed on some issue!!

Granville put in there objection with everything in order and it was also thrown out

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Originally Posted by kingpin

If you read the last post i made, i wished crystal the best of luck and hold no bitterness against them. I'm not going to start naming players, carrick were late with their objection and the other objection was sent with a cheque instead of a postal order and that was dismissed. Im a carrick man through and i hope crystal do well that does'nt mean i have to go down and shout them on like a fanatical supporter. Just because it was thrown out on the other occasion does'nt mean he is legal, believe me I've seen this happen a lot over the last few years with different objections. Every year we as a club seemed to be getting screwed on some issue!!

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"Every year we as a club seemed to be getting screwed on some issue!" Come on your have a laugh

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Originally Posted by The Gaffer

"Every year we as a club seemed to be getting screwed on some issue!" Come on your have a laugh

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Fact : Carrick did not object against Crystal. They learned of the "Illegal" player too late to object. I believe they made an approach to the FAI but no objection.
There are many clubs countrywide, miles from The South East, very unhappy re the whole Crystal suitation.

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Originally Posted by irisheagle

Fact : Carrick did not object against Crystal. They learned of the "Illegal" player too late to object. I believe they made an approach to the FAI but no objection.
There are many clubs countrywide, miles from The South East, very unhappy re the whole Crystal suitation.

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You are wrong on that. They did object along with East End of Kilkenny.
One was thrown out because the objection was late and the other because the payment method was incorrect.

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Originally Posted by Twinkle Toes

You are wrong on that. They did object along with East End of Kilkenny.
One was thrown out because the objection was late and the other because the payment method was incorrect.

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No you are wrong

I had a look at the Killester website and the forum on it reckons that Bellurgan United F.C. are vastly underrated by the bookies, given their three year record in the competition. Killester beat Bellurgan United in a cup competition on penalties in Dundalk a number of months back and the fans reckon that Bellurgan are a difficult enough side to deal with. Galway Hibs may find their quarter final match tougher than they may originally have thought. :eek:

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Originally Posted by Scout

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Or more like Waterford Crystal winning the quarter final and Park Rangers lodging an objection. Does these clubs actually have copies of the F.A.I. Rule Book? If so, then they may get their grievances upheld. If Waterford Crystal broke the rules, and their opponents went the right and technical ways about their objections, I do not think we would be reading about Carrick or Granville at this stage. Correct me if I'm wrong and I will apologise if you think I'm out of order. :ball:

I have tipped Ballynanty to overcome Carew Park in the Quarter Final. Given that the game is a local derby and Carew Park are at home and would surely be a great game to attend, what is the head to head record this season in all competitions and can you see Carew Park in the Semi Final? :ball:

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Originally Posted by Thunderblaster

I had a look at the Killester website and the forum on it reckons that Bellurgan United F.C. are vastly underrated by the bookies, given their three year record in the competition. Killester beat Bellurgan United in a cup competition on penalties in Dundalk a number of months back and the fans reckon that Bellurgan are a difficult enough side to deal with. Galway Hibs may find their quarter final match tougher than they may originally have thought. :eek:

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Just to let anyone from Bellurgan know that the match is scheduled to be played in Terryland. Will have time and date later.

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Originally Posted by Thunderblaster

I have tipped Ballynanty to overcome Carew Park in the Quarter Final. Given that the game is a local derby and Carew Park are at home and would surely be a great game to attend, what is the head to head record this season in all competitions and can you see Carew Park in the Semi Final? :ball:

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I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE MET THIS YEAR

BALLA BEAT THEM IN 2 FINALS LAST YEAR AND DUNNO IF THE WON BOTH LEAGUE MATCHES BUT CAREW DIDN'T WIN ANYWAY CAUSE BALLA NEVER LOST A LEAGUE GAME LAST YEAR

CAREW ARE A TOTALLY DIFFERENT TEAM NOW

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Originally Posted by Terry

Just to let anyone from Bellurgan know that the match is scheduled to be played in Terryland. Will have time and date later.

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Terry i would not be so sure about the fixture of Bellurgan and Galway hibs... Galway Hibs will not make it easy on any visiting team..

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Originally Posted by Scout

Terry i would not be so sure about the fixture of Bellurgan and Galway hibs... Galway Hibs will not make it easy on any visiting team..

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It is where they have played there last couple of games, as had west utd. Terryland belongs to the galway fa so they always let the latter stages of competitions play there. Hibs have one of the biggest supporter followings in Galway so there should be a good atmosphere there too. Its only maybe 200 metres away from there own pitch anyway.

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Originally Posted by Terry

It is where they have played there last couple of games, as had west utd. Terryland belongs to the galway fa so they always let the latter stages of competitions play there. Hibs have one of the biggest supporter followings in Galway so there should be a good atmosphere there too. Its only maybe 200 metres away from there own pitch anyway.

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I knows its very near by and the galway fa always supply the use of terryland but i know for a fact that if it can be played in Bohermore it.. both the players and supporters have requested it..

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Originally Posted by whistler

does anyone know why granvilles objection was thrown out ?

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THE FAI NEVER GIVE REASONS. JUST YES OR A NO

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Originally Posted by Twinkle Toes

THE FAI NEVER GIVE REASONS. JUST YES OR A NO

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how is it known about the other clercial mistakes that the other objections never made it ??

Cant see why carew, balla or park cant go on and win this out, think its about time that there is so called small clubs in the last 8,like Fairview success attracts good players, so who knows it could be the start of another small club on the way to being one of the best and most respected in the country…you have to start somewhere,

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Originally Posted by lookout

Cant see why carew, balla or park cant go on and win this out, think its about time that there is so called small clubs in the last 8,like Fairview success attracts good players, so who knows it could be the start of another small club on the way to being one of the best and most respected in the country…you have to start somewhere,

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couldn’t agree more lookout, although balla I think are respected locally and prob nationally as a good progressive club,carew and park would not,localy I think carew and park are regarded as teams that will hold their own but will not do anything major, this could be the year,carew and park in the final.

Locally Balla & Carew Park looks to be the pick of the ties in last eight. However I think that we are looking at it with hearts rather than heads ...

Best tie is Killester vs Westport and I would expect that the winner will come from this tie !

Im sure the other three teams in the last 4 would like to avoid the winner of the above match. Anyone know the format that the semi will take regarding home advantage??

Is it played at neutral venue and if so how do they determine where to play game????

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Originally Posted by Supersub

Anyone know the format that the semi will take regarding home advantage??

Is it played at neutral venue and if so how do they determine where to play game????

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The semi final would be at neutral venues. The first and third teams drawn would play at a neutral ground that is nearest to them, for example, if Killester United draw Galway Hibs, the match would be in the A.U.L. Complex and if Ballynanty Rovers draw Waterford Crystal, the game would be in Mick Cooke Park in Tipperary. That is going from recent experience. Now, if Westport United drew Bellurgan United, the game would be likely to be held in Milebush Park in Castlebar and if Park Rangers drew Carew Park, that game would likely take place in The Fairgreen in Limerick. Interesting permutations lay ahead of us. :confused:

I see you are covering eery angle TB !! What are your picks for the four semi final places ???

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Originally Posted by Supersub

I see you are covering eery angle TB !! What are your picks for the four semi final places ???

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Ballynanty Rovers, Galway Hibs, Killester United and Waterford Crystal would be my last four.

Thought that would be the case seeing as they were the first four that you named ..

Might as well go one step further and tell us who you think will win it out??

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Originally Posted by Supersub

Thought that would be the case seeing as they were the first four that you named ..

Might as well go one step further and tell us who you think will win it out??

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I think that Killester United will edge past Ballynanty Rovers in a closely contested final. Both are good teams and Killester have got this far pretty quietly. The least hyped favourites usually succeed.

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Originally Posted by Thunderblaster

The semi final would be at neutral venues. The first and third teams drawn would play at a neutral ground that is nearest to them, for example, if Killester United draw Galway Hibs, the match would be in the A.U.L. Complex and if Ballynanty Rovers draw Waterford Crystal, the game would be in Mick Cooke Park in Tipperary. That is going from recent experience. Now, if Westport United drew Bellurgan United, the game would be likely to be held in Milebush Park in Castlebar and if Park Rangers drew Carew Park, that game would likely take place in The Fairgreen in Limerick. Interesting permutations lay ahead of us. :confused:

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if a limerick team get a home semi it is played in Jackman/Hogan - the rule is it is played in the leagues ground or if that ground is also used by a club ie St Michs from tipp it would go to the next best club ground in tipp ie clonmel

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Originally Posted by whistler

Tb, It Seems Like You Are The Type Of Person Who Backs All Favs In Horse Racing Despite Of Form Of Other Runners.
I Would Be Almost Certain That All Your Four Mentioned Teams Will Not Win ! Maybe 2 Or 3 But Not 4.

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SO WHO ARE YOUR 4 FOR THE SEMI FINALS??

I'll go with Park, Balla, Hibs and Killester.

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Originally Posted by CousinSylDolan

I'll go with Park, Balla, Hibs and Killester.

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Its hard to leave Westport out, after their excellent win over Pike

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Originally Posted by whistler

My Four Would Be Westport,balla,galway Hibs And Park !

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KILLESTER, HIBS, WATERFORD CRYS AND BALLYNANTY...
HIBS BALLYNANTY FINAL..

i think pike were too cocky and caught by the element of suprise by westport.i doubt kilester will do the same, if westport are good enough to win this game i think they will lift the trophy but at this stage its all about who performs on the day.

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Originally Posted by The Gaffer

Its hard to leave Westport out, after their excellent win over Pike

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I saw Killester play in the AUL last season on their way to winning the Premier. I have always thought that as long as they get a home draw they will be very hard to beat.
Westport I'm afraid I know nothing about only they are well supported and beat Pike 3-0 in Limerick...

Glad to c I sparked a little debate about the semi finalists .. For the record I will go for Balla , Killester , Waterford & my shock(seeing as everyone is writing them off!!!) Bellurgan ....

good to see ye all writing off carew park by tipping yer last four already. i would not write this carew park team off just yet. balla and carew have not met since the cup fianl last season this is a very diff... carew side than last season. they added five quality players this season to a good side they already had. atlot of people think all balla have to do is turn up im not saying people on here. if your going to the match you will see what i mean i hope they beat balla they deserve a bit of luck and who knows 3rd time lucky over losing them two fianls

in case you want to know who the five players are

jason devlin (10goals)
ter bou...(14goals)
cyril maher (9goals)
paul quinn
mike mc.. (he plays on the wing great crosser of the ball great player but he is cup tied martin redden snapped him up when carew played holycross in fai this year.)

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Originally Posted by whistler

Tb, It Seems Like You Are The Type Of Person Who Backs All Favs In Horse Racing Despite Of Form Of Other Runners.
I Would Be Almost Certain That All Your Four Mentioned Teams Will Not Win ! Maybe 2 Or 3 But Not 4.

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I don't put money on horses. I'm not a gambler.

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Originally Posted by passer

i think pike were too cocky and caught by the element of suprise by westport.i doubt kilester will do the same, if westport are good enough to win this game i think they will lift the trophy but at this stage its all about who performs on the day.

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Westport United were historically the bridesmaids of the competition and will remain so. A quarter final place is actually seen as a historic achievement in the town and the team is never fancied against Dublin opposition. Would be nice to see Westport United to become the first Connacht side to win the F.A.I. Junior Cup in 76 years but I don't think so. :ball:

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Originally Posted by backodanet

if a limerick team get a home semi it is played in Jackman/Hogan - the rule is it is played in the leagues ground or if that ground is also used by a club ie St Michs from tipp it would go to the next best club ground in tipp ie clonmel

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So the semi final venues would be Jackman Park/Hogan Park for Ballynanty, Carew Park or Park Rangers; Milebush Park, Castlebar for Westport United, Terryland Park for Galway Hibs, A.U.L. Complex for Killester or Bellurgan and R.S.C or Ozier Park for Waterford Crystal. :ball:

Any Galway Hibs or Westport United fans out there that would like to add to this forum? :confused:

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Originally Posted by Thunderblaster

Any Galway Hibs or Westport United fans out there that would like to add to this forum? :confused:

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I would call myself a Galwat hibs fan.. Think that the team is improving rapidly with every game.. They have a bit of confidence going into the quaters but at the the same time are very realistic.. they will take each game as it comes.. I know one thing for certain, that is they are not afraid of any team.. home or away..
They would of loved a trip to Balla..... :eek: