Waterford away tonight.
Can't make it down myself but I believe our lads know what they need to do.
Here's hoping they can do it
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Waterford away tonight.
Can't make it down myself but I believe our lads know what they need to do.
Here's hoping they can do it
Waterford are not very good and are missing 2 of their best players.....Should be a Cork win handy enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by razor
fyp :DQuote:
Originally Posted by razor
2nd Half, Waterford 0-2 City. Gearoid Morissey and Graham Cummins.
Waterford 1-3 Cork
As expected.
huge 3 points. we may have been fortunate though. Probably shaded it but if they took some of the chances they created they could have been 2 or 3 up
4. Murphy, McSherry, Murray suspended. Sinnott still injured. Did reasonably well considering. Hit the underside of the bar twice and had several other good chances. Cork were much more clinical though and deserved the win. We should've been ahead before they scored, but they completely ran the first 30 minutes of the second half before we came back into it. All meaningless to us though.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluewhitearmy
As things stand:
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Despite their large win, Limerick's goal difference is still way behind which could come back to haunt them.
Crucial game next week is Mons v Shels. I'd be happy to see Shels win it and us to slip into 2nd place with the second automatic spot. Shels can have the trophy, I don't care once we get out of the graveyard division.
A win for Shels suits ye down to the ground as it means Shels will most likely have nothing to play for against ye last day of the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by adamd164
It will probably also suit us. If Shels can beat Mons, then ye can beat them to go second which gives us the chance if we beat them the second last game of the season to most likely go third. I know thats asking a lot but the only thing Limerick, Shels and Cork in common is that they all have to play Mons.
Depends on which Shels shows up. Last week's team (which,absurdly, lost) would beat Mons...tonight's team would struggle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jofspring
I don't think that Matthews will set up next week like he did tonight. He went out with 2 wingers, 2 strikers (one of whom was basically redundant) and 2 outnumbered centre mids - a formation with 'we don't fancy you lot very much' written all over it. Save one or two close calls Athlone never came within an ass's roar of hitting the net.
Surrendering the midfield like that against Monaghan would be suicide.
If I calculated right Limerick can only get 66 points, we are on 55 with 6 games left so we can afford to lose 2 and still be a point ahead of Lims , lot of ifs
I hope Limerick get promoted. Hat's off to Mons though, they are in a great position and are making that hope turn impossible. Limerick will travel to Mons late in the season. Is that 6 pointer included in your calculations passerby? There's always twists and turns, count eggs, not chickens!!
Ya it's in mons and corks hands. Limerick can only take it one game at a time at the moment and hope for slip ups.Quote:
Originally Posted by passerrby
No not counting that game if we beat Lims cork or shels the equations changeQuote:
Originally Posted by passerrby
Shels v Mons
Cork v Mons
Scenario A:
Mons win both.
Reasult: Shels might not roll over for Cork on last day. Limerick can go up by winning their last four games.
Scenario B:
Mons lose both.
Result: Limerick will finish at least third by winning their last four games.
Scenario C:
Mon beat Cork, Lose to Shels.
Result: Limerick are ****ed
Scenario D:
Mons beat Shels, Lose to Cork.
Result: Limerick are ****ed
Scenario E:
Mons draw one, lose one.
Result: Limerick will finish third if they win their last four games.
Scenario F:
Mons draw both.
Result: Limerick are ****ed
In Summary then: :bulgy:
Exciting stuff at the top of both divisions!!
Alot of that ain't too accurate. If Mons draw both. Limerick just have to beat Monaghan by maybe 2 goals and keep up their good goalscoring form and they're ahead of Mons on goal difference, only a 7 goal swing needed. Also, any scenario that sees Cork lose is a good one for your lot. You stay on level points with them and Cork are away to us on the last day of the season. Can't say they won't win it if required but they'll be odds against to do so and there ain't a hope in hell we'll be doing any rolling over for that crowd. If it were Mons we were playing on the last day you may have had more cause for worry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
7 goal swing is a BIG deal to a team as anaemic as us infront of goal. Our goal difference is ****e for a reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by CSFShels
Looking at games where you'd potentially make up goals, we both have to play Mervue away (which is a toughie for us never mind a goalfest!!) We both have to play Athlone and Mons have Wexford at home, we have Waterford at home (and I can't see them giving up four or five goals to us)
I don't think anyone is (I'm certainly not anyway) suggesting that Shels would go "tee hee hee let's shaft Limerick" for Corks flipping benefit!! I just think if Shels have the league wrapped up by then (which they should) you're players aren't going to try particularly hard. Human nature.Quote:
Also, any scenario that sees Cork lose is a good one for your lot. You stay on level points with them and Cork are away to us on the last day of the season. Can't say they won't win it if required but they'll be odds against to do so and there ain't a hope in hell we'll be doing any rolling over for that crowd.
I'm suggesting the opposite though. Cork are a team we will want to beat. As would Limerick be in the same scenario. If teams went into such games with that sort of mindset we would be in the Premier Division a few years now. If it was Monaghan we were playing on the last game of the season, as I said, things would be different. We would want them to go up ahead of you and Cork. My hopes are Monaghan to finish second to us and Galway to pull off a miracle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
At the end of the day all we can is win all our games. I'm resigned to the fact we will be in the first division next season.
The loss to Wexford at home and draw to Salthill are really coming back to haunt us now.
did some rough estimations today and I had it with Shels and Mons going up together on level points with Cork finishing 3rd
And the 2 points Mons were given for Harps game could play a big part.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jofspring
from a human nature perspective I think Shels will definitely be trying against us, they'll have a point to prove after their humiliation last time out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
Getting nervous just reading this. I think we will lose to Shels and lose a tough game away to Cork just 4 days later. But this team keeps surprising me. We can beat Limerick at home to clinch he playoff spot; against Galway in a one-off tie they could up their game and beat us. Or any other Permutation of results could happen. Don't forget both Limerick and Shels have a cup-tie and one of them will have a semi-final as well.
Should have put Bray away in the playoff last year (should have been out of sight at half time in the first leg)
playoff is two legs
I don't know man. None of these players care about the club or the shirt or any of that nonsense, we're looking at it through fans eyes, so Shels got hammered in Cork, big whoop, the proof is in the pudding, they've the league won. I know if twas me and I was on the batter all week, league winners medal in my pocket, and there's a fifty-fifty ball to be won with Greg O'Halloran, I'm gonna think "balls to that, when can I have my shower"Quote:
Originally Posted by razor
Maybe this is me just displaying one of the many reasons I'll never be a LoI footballer?? :)
I will be astonished if Limerick put out even a 31st cousin of a first teamer for that cup tie.Quote:
Originally Posted by monutdfc
Thanks. Wasn't sure, so I said one-off tie instead of one-off game. In fact, I had assumed the Fai would have it a one-off game with the premier side at home.Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
The playoff should, should, be a pointless farce imo, with the First Division participants going up regardless of the result.
Like even on the off chance Galway win, are they in any position to play Premier next year??
And that's before you even get into Bohs or Bray or Dundalk or flip knows who else in the next few weeks!!
Your cynicism is admirable and given the Sheriff debacle also possibly justified.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
My predictions for both games is Shels and Cork both to beat the Mons at home. If Limerick are to get promoted they need to be beating Mervue (A) and Athlone (H). Monaghan will probably beat Wexford (H) and Mervue (A). It'll have everything set-up for a massive promotion 6 pointer between Monaghan and Limerick.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jofspring
correct 100%
in fact im still waiting for any mention of Mons points award it just seems to have been applied to the league table with no *** stating a points gain for reasons other then football and harps ** a points deduction for reasons other then football
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Originally Posted by LeixlipRed
blatent being one hit his shoulder as he was running back to his own goal while being pushed by Philly. There were seven (7) yellow cards. and none to the home team. 7 0 wasnt the result i was looking for going there.
Jesus Christ you must really think Mons are Barcelona and we're bleedin Hull. You must think Mons are going to beat us and Cork?Quote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
I think most Mons fans deep down fancy us to get something from the Shels and Cork games and then feck up yet again against Mervue. Would be delighted with second at this stage and happy enough with third.
I certainly think ye can get something out of our game at the Cross but the bottom line is we have to beat ye. Mervue without Gaffney are not as much a threat.Quote:
Originally Posted by monsexile
My sentiments exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by monsexile
Would I be right in saying if we were beaten by shels and cork and draw with Lims we would still be ahead of them assuming we both win the other remaining games?
You are correct, let's hope that doesn't happen though, Monaghan is a kip for an away trip.
You are right with that. Limerick need ye to lose two games and they probably will need to beat ye themselves as well. In fairness if ye lose to all 3 ye know ye'reselves it'll ruin ye're promotion push.Quote:
Originally Posted by passerrby
Also the +3 in their goals for columnQuote:
Originally Posted by bluewhitearmy
whatever came of the limerick objection has an appeal date been announcedQuote:
Originally Posted by harpin