His peno miss last week wouldnt have helped his chances. Might be something in it, as Wenger needs to get players in quick but doesnt seem to be having much luck so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
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His peno miss last week wouldnt have helped his chances. Might be something in it, as Wenger needs to get players in quick but doesnt seem to be having much luck so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
I presume this Rob Elliott character is eligible for Ireland? Dont think ive heard of him before now?
Not familiar with him myself, although I do note that the 'international' section of his Wikipedia page states very simply and forthrightly:Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Who could argue with that?Quote:
International
Elliot made his international debut for the Republic of Ireland Under 19 team.
The IFA for one.
With the Keane and Longs move now done and dusted, are we likely to see any of our lads move in the last few hectic days of the window?
More talk of Doyle to Arsenal again, but very unlikely.
Gibson may move, to where, who knows!
Duffy and Clifford but I suppose both those will be loans so may not happen just yet, but will be interesting ones, Championship for both probably.Quote:
Originally Posted by elroy
With young guys like McCann, Rooney, O'Brien, Brady, Mason, Kendrick having started well this season, that division will be worth keeping an eye on, also O'Brien in the side at West Ham, Clarke at Blackpool, Garvan featuring for Palace and Dicker stepping up with Brighton, you never know, a couple of more options will hopefully emerge.
Around midfield, with purpose and vigour, would be a start!Quote:
Originally Posted by elroy
Clifford mentioned Hamburg a few weeks ago. Chelsea have some sort of exchange deal with them similar to Man United's with Antwerp.Quote:
Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke
Blackburn Rovers rumours are resurrfacing.Quote:
Originally Posted by elroy
http://www.clicklancashire.com/sport...er-gibson.html
Gibson to Villa?
Daily Mail
Better move than Blackburn.
Villa have their captain Petrov, the young and promising Delph and Bannan as well as the potentially talented Stephen Ireland competing for 2 midfield spots at the moment. They've hogg as well making up the numbers. I can't see them wanting another and if they did I don't honestly see Gibson winning the battle against them for a starting spot.
I honestly think half the managers in the EPL don't have a clue.
They automatically think cos ferguson brought gibson through the ranks that he must be a gem of some sort. If i were a premiership manager and based on anything I have seen of him on those games, I would not be looking to bring him in.
I actually think Gibson is OK, though I think he could do with a week's training with Leinster rugby to teach him a thing or two about getting physical.
Makoun too, with Clark occasionally filling in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Murfinator
Having said that McLeish has been looking for an athletic midfielder for sometime - linked to Parker, Barton etc. Petrov rarely has 90 minutes in him anymore, Delph is young and Makoun may get sold on. Hogg won't make it. Bannan and Ireland wouldn't suit that role. So I can see why they're looking at Gibson - even though Darron rarely appears particularly athletic.
I'd have thought Gibson would be competing with Petrov - they're similar types of player.
Gibson as an athletic midfielder?Quote:
Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton
You must have a very different definition of athletic to me.
Nope. Do you read everything half-way?Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
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Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton
Nope even if you hyphenate at the end to try and somewhat qualify what you said the whole statement then makes no sense.
LIke any good point well made, you use the TDT approach, the subject i.e. looking for an athletic midfielder, you give reasons as to why that is the subject i.e. the reasons why he is looking for an athletic midfielder given those currently at his disposal/available, you then conclude your point by saying "so i can see why they're looking at Gibson......
If your qualification at the end is your actual conclusion then you wouldn't or at least shouldn't have bothered with that paragraph and just left a blank.
The statement makes complete sense. There are two conclusions. First - Villa are looking for an athletic type midfielder which Gibson is by reputation at least. He'd widely be considered to have an all-round game, can play defensively and burst forward and hit a decent pass. That's a objective assessment of why Villa could be linked to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
The second conclusion is he isn't particularly athletic. That's a subjective assessment of his actual abilities. It was a throwaway FNAR FNAR. It wasn't particularly funny. But it doesn't invalidate the previous conclusion since they are not contradictory as one is Villa's possible view and the other is my own.
An example: If I'd said 'Oxford University are looking for an O'Shea to give sentence construction seminars, for x reasons, so they've been linked to paul_oshea' but then ended the par with 'but paul_oshea rarely constructs a good sentences' then it would still make perfect sense. :)
I don't know who I'm more miffed at - you, Paul, for provoking me, or me for taking the bait and spelling that out.
Well if they were I would hope an institution such as Oxford would at least get the structure, semantics and syntax right if they were looking at me....Quote:
Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton
I still stick by what I said, you started off with Villa looking for an athletic player, finished with thats why you can see they are looking at Darron. You're almost as bad as geysir trying to refute it. :)
You never cease to amaze. Picking out a random typo and then following it up with this number...Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Astonishing. Anyway no wonder you're sticking with your view, you totally ignored my explanation. As my previous post step-by-stepped, that is not simply what I said but, hey, I had a go at spelling it out. Ultimately I'm glad you ignored the explanation as it might result in you altering your, eh, inimitable writing style. And this place gets too boring for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Transfer rumours?
Attack the post not the poster. SVD. Come on you know the rules :)
And I don't know what step-by-stepped(in the usage above) means either.
Anyway as you say lets not take over this thread about whether or not you think Gibson is an Athletic footballer or not, or whether villa are potentially buying him as an Athletic footballer or not, whether or not he (ever/never) appears to be this type of player and just focus as you rightly say on actual transfer rumours.
Has anything come of the Doyle one, the fact that McCarthy came out the exact same day as this broke suggests there was some truth in it or someone was potentially interested and the papers got it wrong. By all accounts though Mccarthy isn't going to sell. Which leads me to the next point I've been dwelling about, a lot of people seem to have this c2 year window where a footballer is at their peak and thats it, then after that they are over the hill almost, doyle is now 27, to me to fit in with this belief he would be reaching his peak and has only a couple/possibly 3 years at the top, and therefore if he is ever to make it(not exactly sure how we define this) he needs to move now.
Forum rules or sentence rules? And I don't think I did attack you, but apologies if you feel offended.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
It's just 'step-by-step' in verb form. I probably made it up and, before you or anyone says, I'm sure it's prescriptively incorrect. Ah well.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
This is the first time you've come (relatively) close to representing what I said correctly, much obliged. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Doyle would have to push for the move and, problem is, he still wouldn't command a regular first-team place in a big club (top four) right now. A stellar season at Wolves could change that.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Doyler could be helped by the fact that he hasn't been worn down by the daily grind in Italy since he was 15/16. Plus he's another one of our gems who isn't lightning fast, which will help stave off obvious decline that bit more.
He wouldn't get a look in at United, City, Chelsea, but outside of that there isn't a whole lot of difference, Arsenal perhaps he could struggle at, but he would be capable at any of the others, and numerous European clubs if he so wished.
As mentioned in other threads, Gibson has picked up an injury and this may scupper any hope of a transfer in this window.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...le-injury.html
Hearing today Bellamy could be heading back to Liverpool on a free. Would surely exclude any move for Doyle.
Terry Dixon on trial at Bradford, scored the winner for their reserve team against Rotherham's reserve team.
Dixon is a bit like Lazarus, he comes coming back to life and tempts us to believe that he could be an okay footballer!Quote:
Originally Posted by theworm2345
By all accounts he could...if he gets his head right.Quote:
Originally Posted by gastric
1142: FOOTBALL Newcastle United are in talks with Charlton goalkeeper Rob Elliot. The 25-year-old is expected to undergo a medical.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/front_page/9575759.stm
more on that from football356's live transfer blog: http://www.football365.com/transfer-...-Transfer-BlogQuote:
Originally Posted by OMTY
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11.13: Charlton goalkeeper Rob Elliot is having a medical at Newcastle. The office Charlton fan confirms that Alan Pardew gave Elliot his debut during his time in charge at the Valley.
Ireland U19 international Joe Shaughnessy goes out on loan
http://www.afc.co.uk/articles/201108...212158_2436441
After the howler that the Newcastle keeper made last weekend at home to Fulham, Im not surprised they are on the look out. But they do have Harper on their books as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
We should start some sort of rumour for deadline day, see if the English papers pick up on it. Involving an Italian club is always a clever one with the Trap connection. Gibson to Fiorentina maybe?
The BBC seem to be reporting anything and everything anyone tweets or texts to them. But yeah, my mate's waiting in departures in Florence airport at the minute to come back from his holidays and just saw Gibson arrive on and step off the plane he's about to board... This one has wings.
He's been linked with a few others:Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
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Mark Irving whose brother is on the medial staff at West Ham [citation needed] says Darron Gibson is going there to replace Scott Parker
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Schalke will make a loan offer for Manchester United midfielder Darron Gibson (thanks Ken Williams)
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Man Utd's Darron Gibson but he will join Aston Villa in January, once recovered from ankle injury.
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Newcastle are believed to be interested, and a loan move may be a compromise if Gibson is unwilling to totally give up on his United dream just yet.
There's this from RTÉ:
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Ghostie (via e-mail): "He has it on very good authority that a deal is about to be struck for none other than Manchester United's Darren Gibson. A move, ironically suggested by a Mr. Trapattoni several seasons ago!"
Interesting.
The rest of that RTÉ post indicates that he's stokebound.