LOI in Europe 2011

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Originally Posted by mypost

The original post was about what PartySaint and your coach are saying.

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And they both said Pats should play twice in a week, so what's your point?

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Originally Posted by mypost

If we get to CLQ3, we get two shots at making a European group stage. Then the anti-LOI ignorants might start paying attention to this league, and what it has to offer.

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I think people will pay attention if it's not a one hit wonder. Do that for 2 or 3 years and people are bound to sit up and take notice.

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Originally Posted by legendz

I think the saints are a bit hard done by when they did Dundalk a favour last year. At the same time, my understanding is that Shamrock Rovers European strategy is games on Wednesday-Saturday-Wednesday-Saturday. On the same basis, Pat's should be able to play Thursday-Sunday-Thursday-Sunday. Teams across the water generally seem to play games on a Saturday after Wednesday or Sunday after Thursday. LoI fixtures have to be played. Part of being in Europe is that it's something that has to be coped with. At least Pat's get more days to prepare for the second-leg.

Is getting to the 3rd qualifying round a fair barometer for judging the performance of all Irish clubs in Europe? It's great the league was in a position that the cup winner could get forwarded straight to that round. When a look is given on the list of teams in each round, it's the 3rd round where potential big games start to come up. The majority of Irish clubs should be able to make the 3rd round of their respective competitions.

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Teams from across the water can afford to charter planes.

interesting

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2011/...igorovers.html

surprised this hasnt been mentioned yet... fair play to John Delaney (wow) for pledging e5k of his own wonga to get the 3rd round Europa League fixture to Sligo town.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2011/...igorovers.html

a big draw would obviously be fantastic to a town like Sligo and Sligo Rovers.

If Showgrounds can't host the game, I have heard members of the Rovers committee are considering going to a Connacht stadium -- to keep the game in the West of Ireland. Delighted to see Delaney take a lead on this. Hope the courage and will is present at Sligo and that a derogation can granted by UEFA.

So thats Drogheda and Sligo paid off.


can't wait for ours

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Originally Posted by SkStu

surprised this hasnt been mentioned yet... fair play to John Delaney (wow) for pledging e5k of his own wonga to get the 3rd round Europa League fixture to Sligo town.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2011/...igorovers.html

a big draw would obviously be fantastic to a town like Sligo and Sligo Rovers.

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When you are on his wages its small change it is equivolent to an average earner giving 300 euro.

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Originally Posted by Dodge

So thats Drogheda and Sligo paid off.


can't wait for ours

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i cant wait either, anything short of e6million would be a bloody disgrace.

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Originally Posted by Cuyahoga

When you are on his wages its small change it is equivolent to an average earner giving 300 euro.

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rubbish argument if you ask me.

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Originally Posted by SkStu

surprised this hasnt been mentioned yet... fair play to John Delaney (wow) for pledging e5k of his own wonga to get the 3rd round Europa League fixture to Sligo town.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2011/...igorovers.html

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Isnt he a great fella - nice headline (PR) for him all the same:rolleyes:

Fortunately for Pats, their game against IBV will be played in Reykjavik rather than the Westman islands.
Not at the national stadium but at a small club stadium close enough to the city centre. The match tickets are €12, have been selling well. Might well be sold out soon. Pats would be doing very well to get a draw.
IBV don't play the most stylish football in the league, more strong and direct but effective.
Here's the highlights from their game against Breidablik in the green shirts - they being a team which like to play and entertain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJyeQ...eature=related

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Originally Posted by geysir

The match tickets are €12, have been selling well. Might well be sold out soon.

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Tickets are 20 pound sterling

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Originally Posted by geysir

Pats would be doing very well to get a draw.

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Considering Iceland clubs have a terrible record in Europe and one of their teams was hammered by a Maltese team 2 years ago I think St Pats would be dissapointed with less than a draw

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Originally Posted by legendz

I think people will pay attention if it's not a one hit wonder. Do that for 2 or 3 years and people are bound to sit up and take notice.

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It'll be 6 games. TV changes public perceptions. Basically, if you're not on tv, you're invisible. The EPL is on morning, noon, and night for 10-11 months of the year. People are interested and want to watch it. In the LOI, we're on tv once (twice if we're live) a week. There is a difference.

6 games in a group stage however, gives us unprecedented media exposure at home and abroad, for 3 months of the year. People will notice.

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Originally Posted by mypost

It'll be 6 games. TV changes public perceptions. Basically, if you're not on tv, you're invisible. The EPL is on morning, noon, and night for 10-11 months of the year. People are interested and want to watch it. In the LOI, we're on tv once (twice if we're live) a week. There is a difference.

6 games in a group stage however, gives us unprecedented media exposure at home and abroad, for 3 months of the year. People will notice.

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seem pretty sure of yourself there.

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Originally Posted by Hibs4Ever

Tickets are 20 pound sterling

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In Iceland, tickets bought in advance are €9, otherwise €12.
One price - all seats.

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Considering Iceland clubs have a terrible record in Europe and one of their teams was hammered by a Maltese team 2 years ago

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Is that < or > than getting hammered by a Welsh team?
That same year, Fram got through to 3rd qual round and went out 5-3 to Basle while Pats credibly scraped through to the playoff round and got hammered there.

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I think St Pats would be dissapointed with less than a draw

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It's rare that a club competing in Europe as a seeded team would be anything less than disappointed to lose a game.
That doesn't change the outlook that Pats will be doing well to get a draw and should be content with that when the final whistle blows.
IBV are taking this game serious and it sounds like half the island's population are traveling to the game.

dont you just hate when you come up against someone who knows what theyre talking about...

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Originally Posted by geysir

In Iceland, tickets bought in advance are €9, otherwise €12.
One price - all seats..

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Interested to know where you got this info cause Pats fans were told (and charged) by IBV that tickets are 20 pound sterling

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Originally Posted by geysir

That doesn't change the outlook that Pats will be doing well to get a draw and should be content with that when the final whistle blows.

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Yes, they will be happy with the draw, they are away from home, but they will also very dissapointed if they lose as they are a better team and expected to win the tie

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Originally Posted by SkStu

dont you just hate when you come up against someone who knows what theyre talking about...

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Does he? He has the match ticket pricing all wrong for a start, the rest is just opinion

you based your opinion on the fact that "one of their (Icelands) teams" lost to "a Maltese team" 2 years ago.

Geysir has some actual details and, i would say, a better supported opinion.

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Originally Posted by Hibs4Ever

Interested to know where you got this info cause Pats fans were told (and charged) by IBV that tickets are 20 pound sterling

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Hot off the island press
http://www.eyjafrettir.is/frettir/20...lykur_a_morgun
Miði í forsölu kostar (tickets bought in advance cost) 1.500 krónur, annars (otherwise) 2.000 kr[/I].


approx 165kr/1€

Anybody here traveling?

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Originally Posted by geysir

That same year, Fram got through to 3rd qual round and went out 5-3 to Basle while Pats credibly scraped through to the playoff round and got hammered there.

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so Pats 'scraped' through to round 4, losing 5-1 to Steaua in a hammering

Yet Fram were heroic runners up to Basel only losing 5-3 in the round before?

OK

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Originally Posted by geysir

Hot off the island press
http://www.eyjafrettir.is/frettir/20...lykur_a_morgun
Miði í forsölu kostar (tickets bought in advance cost) 1.500 krónur, annars (otherwise) 2.000 kr[/I].


approx 165kr/1€

Anybody here traveling?

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Do other Scandinavian languages use the thorn? Wish it was in still English

Curious that IBV should state a sterling figure for tickets to fans from a Euro zone country.

Possibly they are trying to raise next months payments for their few English players :)

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Originally Posted by Dodge

so Pats 'scraped' through to round 4, losing 5-1 to Steaua in a hammering

Yet Fram were heroic runners up to Basel only losing 5-3 in the round before?

OK

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I was just using Hibs' previously used definition of a 'hammering', fact!
I didn't comment one way or another about Fram's heroism, double fact!

You should know better than to make stuff up based on reading between the lines :)

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Originally Posted by geysir

Curious that IBV should state a sterling figure for tickets to fans from a Euro zone country.

Possibly they are trying to raise next months payments for their few English players :)

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The sporttv.is website is also charging in sterling for their stream

Where are IBV in the league as we stand/did they finish?

The Icelandic krona is particularly weak against the pound at the moment so I assume that's the reason. I'm sure it's handy for the government too since they're basically just sending it all back to the British government.

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Originally Posted by poster

Where are IBV in the league as we stand/did they finish?

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The football season is short, mid May to early Sept with a long pre-season:).
12 teams, 22 games, 8 have been played so far, IBV are in second place, W5 d1 L2.

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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

The Icelandic krona is particularly weak against the pound at the moment so I assume that's the reason. I'm sure it's handy for the government too since they're basically just sending it all back to the British government.

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Those baxstards aren't getting anything yet.
The Kronur has been stable since it collapsed in 2008 :)

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Originally Posted by bennocelt

Isnt he a great fella - nice headline (PR) for him all the same:rolleyes:

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i cant believe you gave me post to Cuyahoga negative vibes, ya big benny!

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Originally Posted by born2bwild

Do other Scandinavian languages use the thorn? Wish it was in still English

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No. Shame we don't have it.
Wouldn't mind having the eth (Ð, ð) and ash (Æ, æ) as well.

The English alphabet is incredibly boring.

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Originally Posted by mypost

It'll be 6 games. TV changes public perceptions. Basically, if you're not on tv, you're invisible. The EPL is on morning, noon, and night for 10-11 months of the year. People are interested and want to watch it. In the LOI, we're on tv once (twice if we're live) a week. There is a difference.

6 games in a group stage however, gives us unprecedented media exposure at home and abroad, for 3 months of the year. People will notice.

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It will be 6 games alright but it needs to be on a consistent enough basis over a few years for people to take notice. Shel's had a one-off good season in Europe but did not back it up. I haven't seen any Irish club back up one good run with another.

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Originally Posted by legendz

It will be 6 games alright but it needs to be on a consistent enough basis over a few years for people to take notice. Shel's had a one-off good season in Europe but did not back it up. I haven't seen any Irish club back up one good run with another.

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Only 6 times have an irish team won 2 European ties in the same season, including that Shels side.

Pats did it in 2008 and 2009


Anyway, it cost 1,500 krona to stream the IVB/pats game if anyone's interested. I'll be watching it in McDowells

It was reported the other day that Pats had intended to send somebody to watch IBV's recent home game, but after consideration about the last leg of the journey to the islands, the scouting trip was cancelled. That sort of report brings a wry smile to an Icelander, who wouldn't give up so easily.

A blow to IBV's chances is to lose their playmaker, Ian Jeffs. He picked up a 3 game Euro ban in 2005 for a straight red and still has a game to serve. It was only reported today, I guess most everybody had forgotten about it.

Our chief scour was supposed to head to IBV's game on Friday. While Pete said it was travellig time, it was a combination of price and value.

Did IBV send someone to Ireland geysir?

A village team on a remote island close to arctic circle send a scout over to Ireland?
Anyway that's not the point, a difference in perception of what constitutes a day to day challenge is the issue.
But if they had made the decision and thought it worthwhile to send a man, he would have made it.
The Faroese would expect no less from Brian Kerr.

Again, the decision wasn't made. They thought about it, but the main stumbling block was the cost. Regardless of the line spun by Pete in the press conference on Friday

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Originally Posted by geysir

A village team on a remote island close to arctic circle send a scout over to Ireland?
Anyway that's not the point, a difference in perception of what constitutes a day to day challenge is the issue.
But if they had made the decision and thought it worthwhile to send a man, he would have made it.
The Faroese would expect no less from Brian Kerr.

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That's obviously something Pats can take as a source of motivation. IBV didn't deem it necessary to scout them - very disrespectful. Village team, remote island, Arctic Circle or not.

who jaysus cares?

Clearly not those arrogant so and sos on a remote island by the Arctic circle.